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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1490 Posts
January 23 2018 17:29 GMT
#81
On January 24 2018 01:46 -Debaser- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 01:34 fish_radio wrote:
i see some reddit and sc2 users come to distaste my message. it's unhelpful to this. we believe it's inexcusable.

you can't say love/hate a company, but the method. we want a method change, not a blizzard to die.


nice fake engrish miku well done


lmao yea.
I dont get how this thread isn't closed yet when that masterpiece "revolutionizing PvT" was locked
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
January 23 2018 19:00 GMT
#82
On January 23 2018 16:29 -EU-OldCamel wrote:
I’m from Korea myself and I feel like the Fish community shouldn’t buy any sympathy for their unjustifiable requests.

First things first, Fish server itself is illegitimate. It is an unofficial open server, in which people can play the game for free. I have not seen any people since the 2000s who actually paid to play BW in Korea. The server could be running only because Blizzard has overlooked it.

After the remastered version was released, it is simply that the Blizzard stops overlooking such conducts of “playing the game for free” by integrating the server into one official server. To my knowledge, it seems that the Fish community asks for re-openning the server. It is like saying that “we don’t want to pay the development costs of the remastered version, but want to pay the game.” No justification should be there to re-open the illegitimate-overlooked server, since Blizzard steped into its own game and decided to remaster it and release it both to earn money and to thank the popularity it has received.


Those illegitimate servers provided functionality that Blizzard failed to. Yes Blizzard was within their rights to shut down free downloads of their game, but imo forcing everyone to switch to "remastered" was the worst way to go about it. Great, everyone is integrated onto one official server now - and they are leaving the game in droves because of lag, reduced functionality, ugly graphics etc.

As I understand it, the whole pro scene of broodwar always had "illegitimate" and shady aspects from a purely legal or business stand point. So I guess all of it should be condemned and tossed out. Because the poor victim Activision/Blizzard is truly suffering from the illegitimate use of the IP that it bought from the old Blizzard.
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-23 19:22:09
January 23 2018 19:20 GMT
#83
OP states hackers are back but I've yet to witness a single confirmed hacking incident. Even if I'm wrong, certainly a huge scaling back in the amount of hackers compared to pre-remasterd. Just wanted to give me 2 cents on that paticular comment.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1490 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 05:19:00
January 24 2018 05:10 GMT
#84
[/i]
On January 24 2018 01:46 -Debaser- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 01:34 fish_radio wrote:
i see some reddit and sc2 users come to distaste my message. it's unhelpful to this. we believe it's inexcusable.

you can't say love/hate a company, but the method. we want a method change, not a blizzard to die.


nice fake engrish miku well done

User was warned for this post


Warned for the post but fish radio faking drama and pretending to have bad English grammar all the sudden gets away

Lmao state of moderation. This should have been closed while ago with dodgy information and fish radios history of dodgy information and drama gathering out of nothing.

There's a reason this wasn't posted in Korean but instead in English. English exclusive? P-lease. English speaking bw community is barely fraction of whole. It doesn't do anything but spark drama here since Korea has majority.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
January 24 2018 05:16 GMT
#85
Is Fish_Radio Miku?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
January 24 2018 05:29 GMT
#86
Has fish_radio ever shown proof that they were a "former Fish administrator?" Why are they allowed to constantly make these threads acting like some official and claiming to speak for the entire Korean BW community? It doesn't even make sense that these complaints about Blizzard Korea would only be posted to TL.
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1490 Posts
January 24 2018 05:40 GMT
#87
On January 24 2018 14:29 Sero wrote:
Has fish_radio ever shown proof that they were a "former Fish administrator?" Why are they allowed to constantly make these threads acting like some official and claiming to speak for the entire Korean BW community? It doesn't even make sense that these complaints about Blizzard Korea would only be posted to TL.


not entire korean BW community because after few days of hating blizzard for unstable server for SCR, fish server being scummy was the main topic of discussion

theres reason this isnt in korean.
fish_radio
Profile Blog Joined March 2017
182 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 05:48:13
January 24 2018 05:47 GMT
#88
have a staff DM me. i can't give the names out loud if you want proof.

i can show kakao with the real owner
Sebyul Server W.I.P.
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 21:27:45
January 24 2018 21:18 GMT
#89
This is almost as good and enjoyable to read as the "Blizzard California attacks brain" thread. That thread also proved nothing but to be wrong. Yet BW acolytes here believed it no questions asked. Because jumping on the Blizzard hate train is more fun than actually having to look up for information yourself.
aka Kalevi
MrUniverse
Profile Joined January 2018
6 Posts
January 24 2018 21:35 GMT
#90
On January 25 2018 06:18 404AlphaSquad wrote:
This is almost as good and enjoyable to read as the "Blizzard California attacks brain" thread. That thread also proved nothing but to be wrong. Yet BW acolytes here believed it no questions asked. Because jumping on the Blizzard hate train is more fun than actually having to look up for information yourself.


Just because one thread is wrong, it doesn't mean that all threads are wrong.

It is no evidence that Blizzard is actively hindering the BW esport scene.
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
January 24 2018 21:51 GMT
#91
On January 25 2018 06:35 MrUniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 06:18 404AlphaSquad wrote:
This is almost as good and enjoyable to read as the "Blizzard California attacks brain" thread. That thread also proved nothing but to be wrong. Yet BW acolytes here believed it no questions asked. Because jumping on the Blizzard hate train is more fun than actually having to look up for information yourself.


Just because one thread is wrong, it doesn't mean that all threads are wrong.

It is no evidence that Blizzard is actively hindering the BW esport scene.

I am not the one advocating for blind following. All I ask is for healthy skepticism from a questionable source. Of course some people are just looking for confirmation bias.
aka Kalevi
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1490 Posts
January 24 2018 23:20 GMT
#92
On January 25 2018 06:18 404AlphaSquad wrote:
This is almost as good and enjoyable to read as the "Blizzard California attacks brain" thread. That thread also proved nothing but to be wrong. Yet BW acolytes here believed it no questions asked. Because jumping on the Blizzard hate train is more fun than actually having to look up for information yourself.


foreign community isnt exactly well versed on fish drama on korea
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
January 24 2018 23:23 GMT
#93
So, TL Administrators or Moderators are clearly in this thread because people are being warned. Can we please get some sort of confirmation we're actually talking to Fish in any official capacity here? Or can I go make random accounts with 0 fact-checking?
twitch.tv/schamtoo | twitter.com/schamtoo
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
January 25 2018 01:12 GMT
#94
If Fish_Radio is Mku which I am pretty sure it is, then all of this info is just ridiculous and gossip / blown out of proportion, ASL 5 is coming soon as i've been told by several Korean friends in [WHITE], I am pretty sure they wouldn't lie about it as they have players in it I think.

Miku is not a reputable source and i'm honestly not even sure why people are taking him / her seriously on TL after how I and I'm sure many others have seen how Miku acts / has acted on Discord in the past.

I had no idea Fish_Radio was Miku so I was actually buying into a lot of what was said, but it is actually pretty sad / pathetic when someone switches from perfect english to unbelievably poor broken English on purpose at the drop of a dime just to convince people of what they are saying, which is all that is happening right now.

Miku is an attention whore, a soothsayer or whatever you want to call it, I wouldn't believe anything Fish_Radio says, at all.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
January 25 2018 01:19 GMT
#95
On January 25 2018 08:23 SchAmToo wrote:
So, TL Administrators or Moderators are clearly in this thread because people are being warned. Can we please get some sort of confirmation we're actually talking to Fish in any official capacity here? Or can I go make random accounts with 0 fact-checking?


Yah I agree with this. This is an emotional time for a lot of people and there is a lot of information we do not have. I think the worst thing that can happen in these moments is having someone spread false information when people are already heavy on a cocktail of assumptions and anger.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
January 25 2018 01:28 GMT
#96
lmao wintertrollbot=miku=fish_radio plz
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37069 Posts
January 25 2018 02:01 GMT
#97
This thread has way more negative posts than positive ones. It's become a shit-flinging fest. Let's just close this thread and preserve what's left of BW's legacy and dignity.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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