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blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
January 30 2017 04:46 GMT
#81
On January 30 2017 13:41 Waxangel wrote:
Wow, thanks for talking about your friend as if he means anything. I think you're an idiot. I'm a Korean, so consider this irrefutable fact.

Calling someone an idiot for no reason. Why bother commenting if that's all you're going to write.
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-30 04:54:18
January 30 2017 04:54 GMT
#82
i've done loads of dumb shit in the past that many people could hate me for, but i've also done loads of good shit too, since then. it's possible to mend bridges, but you need to go out of your way to do that, and hope for the best too. otherwise, you just live your life the way that you do, until you die. nobody will know any different, except for you, and perhaps the people you meet along the way, or perhaps they won't. at the end of the day, if you really want to get involved again in a scene that you fucked up in, you will have to start small, make the effort, and perhaps you'll be able to prove yourself in time. in context, i think if someone like Life works towards this goal then he will be able to achieve it, and that, as observers, or whoever else, we should be open to the possibility.
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-30 04:58:58
January 30 2017 04:54 GMT
#83
While western cultural does give second chances out like it is candy, I don't agree with it.

Cheating in any sport, regardless if it is doping, match fixing, whatever should result in a lifetime ban. Far fewer people would attempt it if they realized they would indefinitely lose their source of income. And then people wouldn't have the excuse that everyone else does it.

On January 30 2017 13:46 blunderfulguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2017 13:41 Waxangel wrote:
Wow, thanks for talking about your friend as if he means anything. I think you're an idiot. I'm a Korean, so consider this irrefutable fact.

Calling someone an idiot for no reason. Why bother commenting if that's all you're going to write.


Because he is Korean. And as he said, that means he only states irrefutable facts, which is also known as his opinion.
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
January 30 2017 05:03 GMT
#84
dont think any tournament would allow him back, but there are other zergs better then him like dark.
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
January 30 2017 05:35 GMT
#85
It's likely a new zerg god will arise
i love you
NaRae
Profile Joined January 2017
Korea (South)48 Posts
January 30 2017 06:09 GMT
#86
He is still rumored to earn money through Overwatch auto-aim program sales.
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
January 30 2017 06:09 GMT
#87
Mvp didnt lose is G5L for this ;-;
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
Voltz_sc21
Profile Joined August 2015
66 Posts
January 30 2017 06:10 GMT
#88
He's only banned from kespa IIRC. With kespa gone, nothing is really stopping him. He could come back whenever he is out of jail if he didn't mind the community backlash.
velocekr
Profile Joined December 2016
Korea (South)46 Posts
January 30 2017 06:13 GMT
#89
No forgiveness.
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-30 06:15:04
January 30 2017 06:14 GMT
#90
On January 30 2017 14:03 Riner1212 wrote:
dont think any tournament would allow him back, but there are other zergs better then him like dark.

Life is the fallen one, but fell from a height that dark could never reach. so please ...
Voltz_sc21
Profile Joined August 2015
66 Posts
January 30 2017 06:16 GMT
#91
On January 30 2017 13:46 blunderfulguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2017 13:41 Waxangel wrote:
Wow, thanks for talking about your friend as if he means anything. I think you're an idiot. I'm a Korean, so consider this irrefutable fact.

Calling someone an idiot for no reason. Why bother commenting if that's all you're going to write.

If any of us made this exact comment we would be banned, at the very least warned.
AusProbe
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia235 Posts
January 30 2017 06:16 GMT
#92
On January 30 2017 15:14 necrosexy wrote:
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On January 30 2017 14:03 Riner1212 wrote:
dont think any tournament would allow him back, but there are other zergs better then him like dark.

Life is the fallen one, but fell from a height that dark could never reach. so please ...


The height only nostalgia reaches.
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-30 06:18:00
January 30 2017 06:17 GMT
#93
On January 30 2017 15:10 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
He's only banned from kespa IIRC. With kespa gone, nothing is really stopping him. He could come back whenever he is out of jail if he didn't mind the community backlash.


Not possible. KESPA is still affiliated with SC2. The teams may be gone from SC2 but KESPA remains the parent organization of SC2 (and most other korean esports).
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51081 Posts
January 30 2017 06:19 GMT
#94
On January 30 2017 15:10 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
He's only banned from kespa IIRC. With kespa gone, nothing is really stopping him. He could come back whenever he is out of jail if he didn't mind the community backlash.


except for the fact that nobody would want to play against him.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
January 30 2017 06:21 GMT
#95
On January 30 2017 15:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2017 15:10 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
He's only banned from kespa IIRC. With kespa gone, nothing is really stopping him. He could come back whenever he is out of jail if he didn't mind the community backlash.


except for the fact that nobody would want to play against him.

So he'd win every tournament by forfeit. The perfect strategy!
/s
Voltz_sc21
Profile Joined August 2015
66 Posts
January 30 2017 06:21 GMT
#96
On January 30 2017 15:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2017 15:10 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
He's only banned from kespa IIRC. With kespa gone, nothing is really stopping him. He could come back whenever he is out of jail if he didn't mind the community backlash.


except for the fact that nobody would want to play against him.

How could you even know that? Have you asked pros?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51081 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-30 06:31:04
January 30 2017 06:27 GMT
#97
On January 30 2017 15:21 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
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On January 30 2017 15:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 30 2017 15:10 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
He's only banned from kespa IIRC. With kespa gone, nothing is really stopping him. He could come back whenever he is out of jail if he didn't mind the community backlash.


except for the fact that nobody would want to play against him.

How could you even know that? Have you asked pros?

would you willingly work with someone who threatened and has already hurt your livelihood?

this is just selfish behaviour and I question your commitment to a legitimate competition.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 30 2017 06:41 GMT
#98
On January 30 2017 14:03 Riner1212 wrote:
dont think any tournament would allow him back, but there are other zergs better then him like dark.


Not at all.

Dark, soO and ByuL are the top contenders in the absence of Life but none of them have accomplished a third of what he has.

In addition, Life just had a certain adaptability within the game that allowed him to have an unparalleled level of fluidity in his play. Combine that with him seemingly being immune to tilting and it's hard to imagine another Zerg ever coming close to him.
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Voltz_sc21
Profile Joined August 2015
66 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-30 06:49:10
January 30 2017 06:47 GMT
#99
On January 30 2017 15:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2017 15:21 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
On January 30 2017 15:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 30 2017 15:10 Voltz_sc21 wrote:
He's only banned from kespa IIRC. With kespa gone, nothing is really stopping him. He could come back whenever he is out of jail if he didn't mind the community backlash.


except for the fact that nobody would want to play against him.

How could you even know that? Have you asked pros?

would you willingly work with someone who threatened you livelihood?

this is just selfish behaviour and I question your commitment to a legitimate competition.

I don't think that is a completely honest statement. This same guy who damaged the pro scene, is the same guy who brought it to new heights. Arguably, he was subject to addiction. Friends of his have gone on record saying he would lose tens of thousands of dollars a night at the oversea casinos. Since gambling is illegal in Korea, it is not impossible to believe that he lost a ton of money illegally betting in korea, and needed to pay up to some mean people.

On top of the jail time and fines, he probably lost all of his friends. Who even knows if his family still talks to him. The shame he must carry, the public scrutiny, I think he has undergone enough punishment. I would welcome him back, though, I'm not sure he would want to come back. I wish him well~
imp42
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
398 Posts
January 30 2017 06:58 GMT
#100
As much as I loved Life's play style and skill, sometimes you just have to sacrifice somebody to make a point.
Athletes might get a 2 years ban for doping and then they're back. So yes, banning Life permanently seems very harsh. Especially if he "only" fixed sets without changing the outcome of the match (if I understood this correctly).

However, this ban is not about Life as an individual. It's about signalling a zero-tolerance policy. I wish him a second chance and I would want to see him play again, just for my own selfish reasons. But I can't see that happen and perfectly understand the "sacrifice". Even though it's very unlucky it happens to be a player of his level.
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