EPTI think he/she was joking.
I certainly hope so.
But I'm a humorless Romainian bastard with a reputation to uphold.
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pvsnp
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I certainly hope so. But I'm a humorless Romainian bastard with a reputation to uphold. | ||
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xTJx
Brazil419 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16009 Posts
Also I doubt that the other progamers and tournament organizers etc would be happy if the guy who severily damaged the pro scene would be allowed to play again. Do you seriously think anyone would be willing to practice with him? So sadly there's a 0% chance he will ever compete again. | ||
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swissman777
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On January 30 2017 08:18 xTJx wrote: Btw, matchfixing scandals happend in several popular games, including BW. Blaming Life for SC2's unpopularity is the cheapest excuse ever. Yeah and after the BW matchfixing scandal one of the leagues stopped and a bunch of teams disbanded. Sound familiar? | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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rotta
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SwiftRH
United States105 Posts
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
On January 30 2017 08:29 SwiftRH wrote: idk i think life was punished too hard as it is. jail for cheating in a video game like da faq poor kid It's not jail for playing a video game, it's jail for contributing to a highly illegal practice. | ||
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[Erasmus]
Australia286 Posts
On January 30 2017 08:29 SwiftRH wrote: idk i think life was punished too hard as it is. jail for cheating in a video game like da faq poor kid Okay. he didn't get 'jail for cheating in a video game'. He got jail for profiting off illegal matchfixing an involvement with illegal gambling organisations. It's a pretty big fucking difference. And he got a suspended sentence, so literally pretty much a good behavior bond. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 30 2017 07:58 CrayonSc2 wrote: This is the obvious answer for a person that has been sheltered as a child. This is just one of the laws that is less harsh than what life got. I was just pointing out how hell breaks loose when something happens in a video game but around the cornor someones is selling an ounce of drugs and thats okay with the community mindset. Unless I see you participate in humanitarian projects often I don't think anyone has the right to enforce what the "kid" deserved. Trust me, I seen and done some shit in my days and I got no where as much punishment as this guy. All he did was hit keys on a keyboard and clicked on a mouse. I am simply arguing against both extremes here. Life's actions had negative repercussions for a lot of people. You simplifying it down to "hitting keys on a keyboard" is absurd. It's just as absurd to demand eternal punishment though. Both these extreme opinions aren't reasonable if you ask me. Nobody gives a damn if you lose a sc2 ladder match on purpose. That wasn't the same situation though, stop pretending it is. But yeah sure i agree with you, there are much worse things which is why i think it makes sense to question the punishment he got. (both from the legal system and from the esports system) | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On January 30 2017 08:00 baiesradu wrote: Dude, I appreciate your passion and the reasoning but one tough lesson in life is this : "there are mistakes you can only make once and you can never go back !" . The hardest thing about being an adult is that you have to take responsibility for the consequences of your actions even if you wanted them to happen or not. Kespa's policy is not vindictive , it's quite smart actually. If they show even the slightest bit of mercy, they condemn the very esport they are trying to protect . If you allow a person known to be involved in match fixing, to play, how will you ever convince an audience that the results of the match was correct? Especially in a game like starcraft . I don't want to talk about someone else but I know I would stop watching matches and look for a sport with more integrity to it. All sport sell views, create a hype about how much each side wants to win the match, how much they trained and prepared for this moment , and then you have someone who doesn't care about that. He is willing to loose to get paid. Who would watch that ? How long ? And in his case just like savior, it's the worst kind of situation. He's a champion.He already makes more money than most professional gamers. I cheered for him when he was in Bucharest on the main stage and I was in the crowd, I'm zerg , I loved him. I have his autograph. The fact that he's at an age where you still learn who you want to be in life is no excuse. No one forced him to be a progamer. He made more money in two years of playing starcraft than I made in 10 years at my job . And I'm an engineer and I climbed the corporate ladder quite fast. It's not that I hate him . He made a mistake I can understand that. If we make one exception we teach the other players that in some cases it's ok to match fix and for me that's a cancer I don't want to deal with . I'm sorry, like I said at the beginning you don't always get a redo in Life ! Well-said. Two thumbs up from me! | ||
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xtorn
4060 Posts
On January 30 2017 07:28 MockHamill wrote: I am against the death sentence but am willing to make an exception for cheaters. Anyone that matchfixes or maphacks deserves to be executed. Never forget, never forgive. You must be out of your fucking mind. Does your brain even compute the atrocity, primitiveness and narrow-mindedness of what you posted there? Put aside the html gavel and sit down. Christ. ---- Agree with op. I would be extremely happy to see Life give a public apology and resume his career. Despite all the hate, no one that talented should ever give the tiniest fuck about anyone who points fingers , and should just follow their dreams. If Life, the Champion, wants to play again he should do that if his heart tells him to - not because anyone else tells him to; he has nothing to prove. Life will always be in my heart as the best zerg in the world, consumed by a haunting mistake but with an undeniable talent that will live forever. We all make mistakes but the thought of huge talents such as Life stepping wrongly gives hypocrites tremendous ego boners. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On January 30 2017 08:53 xtorn wrote: You must be out of your fucking mind. Does your brain even compute the atrocity, primitiveness and narrow-mindedness of what you posted there? Put aside the html gavel and sit down. Christ. He/she's yet to confirm if it was a serious post, but I think it should be treated like a joke/bad attempt to troll. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
Lots of whats ifs there my friend, what ifs that you use as arguements without knowing if they are true and off of which you base your opinion on? A word of advice, base your opinions on facts, if you fail in that at least do not try to convince others using rumors and guesses. You will look foolish. " He did a wrong thing as a teenager under unknown circumstances and should be allowed to come out, explain what happened" You have any source that he was forbidden from this? He had his chance, like all do to come forth with information. He did not, if you have groundbreaking information on this then share it. | ||
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castleeMg
Canada777 Posts
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Siegetank_Dieter
45 Posts
I hope we could get rid of it completely. It's just the nature of it i guess. Where money is, is also crime. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On January 30 2017 07:28 opisska wrote: I hope that all the "no forgiveness" people will eventually fuck up in their lives and then someone will print out their posts and stick them into a proper orifice. This is just a completely blind approach to reality. Maybe you had it all fluffy and pink in your lives so you do not understand at all how easy it is to suddenly find yourself having crossed the rules, but trust me, it really is surprisingly easy and when it is happening to you, you might not even realize. I am not saying that Life is not responsible for his actions, but an eternal sentence is always absurd. Also, he never cheated for a victory, he just lost games for money (and even not really important ones afaik). It's maybe open to discussion for how long the match-fixers should be removed from the tournaments, but I'd eventually let them back for sure. (And I stand by the opinion that the whole criminal prosecution was a completely insane thing to do over a game.) I seem to recall none of the games he threw affected the series, either. They were all games in a series, where he won the series anyway. | ||
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