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Qi.TiGeR
Profile Joined January 2007
Bangladesh78 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-04 09:17:38
April 03 2007 12:52 GMT
#1
Physician recommended I do this, so here goes.

I need 4 volunteers.

I don't trust BWL, yesterday i spoke to Ashur and he was heading for some LAN party. I had some spare time and ended up writing a strong anti hack, and much stronger than penguin plug.

In addition unlike bwl it wont crash your CD. To be short pp as u know uses a dll file .spl or some other extension and injects it into starcraft.exe preventing other dll injection. The tltour anti hack design is completely different as it monitors the windows cache directly. What it does is something I do not wish to discuss.

I wanted to include a non CD launcher but it was illegal, after consulting with Physician decided not to implement it.

The only thing worrying me right now is the way its scanning the memory constantly. It works great for pentium 3 , 4 etc but if you have a pentium 2 its a bonus.

If you can come some time Saturday, 14:01 EST @ op tl-west that would be awesome.
TLTour Lead Engineer
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
April 03 2007 12:57 GMT
#2
T_T Busy during that time (sleeping ) but if I manage to stay awake during that time I'll try to come on.
^-^
Qi.TiGeR
Profile Joined January 2007
Bangladesh78 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-03 13:10:06
April 03 2007 13:07 GMT
#3
I want to be more elaborate. Basically the program is doing a lot of heavy scanning. It is tuned at a level where pentium 3s and above should not have a problem. I safely assumed all machines were using pentium 3 and above , Physician says no. So the scanning has to be tuned down just enough for the right number of scans where you feel it is "ok"

For those who are using Pentium 2s for your bw, this is bascially for you.

The testers have to be secret and maintain absolute silence after testing phase. In addition i want to make sure this works against all map hack programs out there. Disc is set to a loss in tltour.

If there are any hacks i have missed which you might think has potential to be a threat, other than ones listed above please list them.
TLTour Lead Engineer
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-03 13:13:09
April 03 2007 13:11 GMT
#4
I use a Pentium III 500 MHz, 384MB RAM. It is scraping the very bottom of the Pentium III barrel, and is as old as Starcraft itself.

However, 14:01 EST tomorrow (which is what I assume you meant) might not work for me. Let me know when you guys are free if you want to use my computer for some testing.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Dustin
Profile Joined February 2007
United States225 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-03 13:18:29
April 03 2007 13:17 GMT
#5
ill help you test...
are you only testing against oblivion and inhale? Pm me
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
April 03 2007 13:22 GMT
#6
I realize that you are not in this for the wrong reasons, but don't you realize that you are creating a huge security threat yourself?

Do you think a lot of users will not care that you are accessing all their memory? I don't know just a couple question I have.
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
April 03 2007 13:43 GMT
#7
On April 03 2007 22:22 bErAtEd- wrote:
I realize that you are not in this for the wrong reasons, but don't you realize that you are creating a huge security threat yourself?

Do you think a lot of users will not care that you are accessing all their memory? I don't know just a couple question I have.


then dont play or be a tester simple as that
troi oi thang map nai!!!
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-03 13:45:49
April 03 2007 13:45 GMT
#8
On April 03 2007 22:11 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I use a Pentium III 500 MHz, 384MB RAM. It is scraping the very bottom of the Pentium III barrel, and is as old as Starcraft itself.


p3, 500 mhz, 256ram for me.
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
April 03 2007 13:46 GMT
#9
On April 03 2007 22:43 OhThatDang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2007 22:22 bErAtEd- wrote:
I realize that you are not in this for the wrong reasons, but don't you realize that you are creating a huge security threat yourself?

Do you think a lot of users will not care that you are accessing all their memory? I don't know just a couple question I have.


then dont play or be a tester simple as that


Well I'm not that worried about it and I figured that would be the assumption that everyone would play under...

I don't know I just always here stuff about software security and I was just curious how he could promise that his software wont' be running through our cache looking for stored credit card info or such.
Qi.TiGeR
Profile Joined January 2007
Bangladesh78 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-03 14:07:11
April 03 2007 13:46 GMT
#10
if injecting dll files (penguin plug) is not a security risk this is not either. or are you telling me you never used bwl made by some cze guy from europe ? anyhow more thing is it is only reading info off of windows cache, not writing anything to it. there is no security risk. it is not opening port listeners as part of the anti hack system itself. it is something off of a design very similar to Warden. if you do not want to use the anti hack we cannot let you play in the tour, i.e. the launcher will not operate without detection of our anti hack. it's a harsh procedure but it will keep the abusers in check. also i mentioned earlier disc is a loss.

i think the level of excuse you are making is perhaps not necessary.
www.adsc.com our software we use that operate over 90% U.S hospitals.
shuhab@adsc.com is my email - I have better things to do than trying to take your credit card being a full time software engineer. If you don't want to use the anti-hack don't play in the tour.
TLTour Lead Engineer
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 03 2007 13:48 GMT
#11
i have no quams about it so if i'm there, i'm down
Qi.TiGeR
Profile Joined January 2007
Bangladesh78 Posts
April 03 2007 14:00 GMT
#12
On April 03 2007 22:17 Dustin wrote:
ill help you test...
are you only testing against oblivion and inhale? Pm me


yes, but if anyone thinks there are other hacks we can always hash the dll files for check. do you know any other working hacks ?
TLTour Lead Engineer
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-03 15:22:36
April 03 2007 14:28 GMT
#13
http://www.sclegacy.com/showthread.php?t=2768

Talking about hacks, have a read, I found a post from 9 years ago about how hacking was going to kill Battle.net's ladder - and here we are, with a dead battle.net ladder but still fending for ourselves..
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Dustin
Profile Joined February 2007
United States225 Posts
April 03 2007 14:32 GMT
#14
"As of April 3rd, 2007, over 12,000 different users have downloaded Oblivion."-taken from bwhacks


LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
April 03 2007 14:35 GMT
#15
hopefully everything works out! gl qi.tiger =D
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
April 03 2007 16:51 GMT
#16
On April 03 2007 23:32 Dustin wrote:
"As of April 3rd, 2007, over 12,000 different users have downloaded Oblivion."-taken from bwhacks

haha; so it's not that they didn't want to use a hack, it's that they didn't know where to find it
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
April 03 2007 19:31 GMT
#17
I can help, if you need me, PM me.
Pressure - "rock is the defender of justice" 이병민 / 박영민 Hwaiting~
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
April 03 2007 20:44 GMT
#18
i had no idea hackiking was so blatant ( as seen in the link youj provided)
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11591 Posts
April 03 2007 21:11 GMT
#19
omg I cant wait till this ladder is released!
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
l2k-Spec-Ops_X
Profile Joined November 2006
United States61 Posts
April 04 2007 07:22 GMT
#20
Here are my old laptop stats:

mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
1.79 GHz, 448 MB of RAM (meaning a crappy integrated graphics card)

Plus you get the added benefit of testing the latency of a satellite connection user in Cuba :-P

Just let me know and I'm more than willing to help.

v/r
Spec
1Com ~Fear the Fog~ l2uthless Killaz
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