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On July 08 2016 01:19 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 23:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I'm not going through the laundry list of correct predictions i've made about the Raptors... its all in the threads.
Well you usually quote yourself to make sure everyone knows and noone bothers to dig up your mistakes/cherrypicking. Thing is you made multiple predictions for RJ and selectively chose the best one. You quote one of Jimmi's mistakes but another one of his was accurate: Show nested quote +On July 02 2016 22:21 JimmiC wrote:
I bet jefferson makes less money and term then delly even though he played less minutes in game 7 and I have not done "digging or research" If RJ gets more money or term i'll give up the name. Whilst you virtually covered all your bases with this gem: Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 09:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
RJ will probably get the same deal as last year or a bit better. i'd like to see the guy cash-in though. You basically did broad enough 'predictions,' that you were almost guaranteed to be correct on some parts, and then self-quoted the best one. I was wrong about RJ not getting a raise, but that was never really the disagreement. A pay increase of roughly $1 million doesn't indicate a '#2 priority' or 6th man quality FA and they almost certainly would've kept Delly for the same price. RJ even had to use retirement as leverage to get as much as he did. The thing is, you raved about RJ's importance then made several conservative predictions that cover the most likely scenarios but don't support your claims of his value. Now you're trying to claim you're right because he got one of the most pathetically small raises in a year of record salary inflation. Well played.
that prediction was JUne 29. i thought about the issue more deeply. Did more research and refined my prediction to what you saw July 1. My current and latest prediction turned out to be correct and it contained a high level of granularity. The team, trade exception use, the raise.
On June 2nd I had no clue Wade was leaving. By July 2 given the evidence at hand i stated "Wade is gone" while virtually every EPSN reporter said he was staying. I alter my opinions over time.
I alter my opinions over time. i don't really bother saying obvious stuff like "Lebron James is a really good player". I post stuff that I know is an unusual opinion. So I realize my posts will draw flak.
On July 08 2016 00:59 Jerubaal wrote:
I think the problem with this discussion is there are no clear propositions. Rather you are arguing over some vague notion of goodness.
on June 30, and July 1 JimmiC and Raynor posted exactly what they thought would happen with RJs contract situation. The result is now in. I further stated RJ is better than the average SF coming off the bench on a playoff team citing VC and Ross as examples of his direct competitors. Other than that, to a large extent you are 100% correct. i think i'll end it with your reasonable characterization... and on that note i'll return to talking only about the Raptors and Raptors905 because they are the only teams that i know better than the average TL.Net poster.
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On July 07 2016 18:21 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 17:21 Scarecrow wrote:
I love me some IT2, I'd rate him around 7th behind Curry, WB, CP3, Lillard, Lowry and possibly Wall. People want a superstar on Boston cause they've got such a great defensive, bought in team to surround one with (not to mention Stevens), they just lack the extra firepower. It'd also be good for the league to have another contender team to take on the cavs in the east. there is no way he's 7th lol I said boston more because as a viable FA destination that could offer him decent money and a good chance at winning they're the most likely organization right now. And i think with Durant+Horford they'd be an interesting team at least.
I get it (sort of) but there's no upside to that team. If he were to go to the East I want Paul George on the team with Durant. Then it at least is interesting when matching up with Cleveland (healthy). As for PGs,
Undoubtedly better: Curry, WB, CP3, Lillard, Lowry, Irving, Wall,
Approximately the same: Conley, Holiday, Bledsoe, Walker, Jackson, Teague, Livingston
Question Marks with higher upside: Rose, Russel, Dunn, Greek Freak
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in general NBA news, it appears next year's salary cap won't go as high as expected. So maybe next year might not be the bonanaza it was this year.
http://www.sbnation.com/2016/7/7/12118546/nba-salary-cap-2017-low-102-million-lockout
"Instead of the cap being set at $108 million, it's expected to come in at $102 million"
"The most interesting case is the Warriors' and Kevin Durant. Since Durant is only signing a two-year contract with an opt out after next year, the Warriors cannot exceed the cap to re-sign him to a new five-year deal. as we expected (see scenario 3). Therefore, if Durant wants to be paid a full maximum salary on his next deal, the Warriors must use their cap space to give it to him."
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For KD, the Warriors gave up Barbosa and Bogut. I don't know how good Pachulia is, but Ezeli isn't good and they won't be able to play a bigger lineup as often, which is how they almost lost to OKC when Adams/Kanter dominated them.
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The GSW with Durant are likely a 62-65 win team in the regular season, but the more their rotation is shaping up, the more I'd be concerned about the playoffs. This incarnation reminds me a lot more of the 2007-2008 Celtics "Big 3". That team was 2 games shy of playing every game possible that playoffs. (4-3, 4-3, 4-2 & 4-2 for series scores.) While they were impressive, they had a lot of problems in the playoffs.
And GSW had notable issues in both Finals runs against teams, but now there is a clear blueprint for playing against them: put your best wing defender on Draymond and run Curry through a screen every time down the floor.
It's going to be fascinating to watch.
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Glad to see Wade jump from one of my favorite teams, to another favorite team.
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Calderon to the Lakers for 7mil/year.
Considering that they gave up essentially nothing, I like the addition for my lakers.
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On July 08 2016 09:37 imBLIND wrote:
Calderon to the Lakers for 7mil/year.
Considering that they gave up essentially nothing, I like the addition for my lakers.
they gave up nothing and got 2 second round picks from us cause they knew we needed to clear space
On July 08 2016 04:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
For KD, the Warriors gave up Barbosa and Bogut. I don't know how good Pachulia is, but Ezeli isn't good and they won't be able to play a bigger lineup as often, which is how they almost lost to OKC when Adams/Kanter dominated them.
Pachulia is decent. Good rebounder, decent on offense. Not as good on defense as Bogut but serviceable. Definitely worth way more than 2 mill
On July 08 2016 02:34 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 18:21 DystopiaX wrote:On July 07 2016 17:21 Scarecrow wrote:
I love me some IT2, I'd rate him around 7th behind Curry, WB, CP3, Lillard, Lowry and possibly Wall. People want a superstar on Boston cause they've got such a great defensive, bought in team to surround one with (not to mention Stevens), they just lack the extra firepower. It'd also be good for the league to have another contender team to take on the cavs in the east. there is no way he's 7th lol I said boston more because as a viable FA destination that could offer him decent money and a good chance at winning they're the most likely organization right now. And i think with Durant+Horford they'd be an interesting team at least. I get it (sort of) but there's no upside to that team. If he were to go to the East I want Paul George on the team with Durant. Then it at least is interesting when matching up with Cleveland (healthy). As for PGs, Undoubtedly better: Curry, WB, CP3, Lillard, Lowry, Irving, Wall, Approximately the same: Conley, Holiday, Bledsoe, Walker, Jackson, Teague, Livingston Question Marks with higher upside: Rose, Russel, Dunn, Greek Freak
I think Conley, Walker are undoubtedly better than IT2 for sure. Teague probably also better.
Livingston is better on on certain teams depending on what you want, in a vacuum agree they're around the same.
Probably throw Jeremy Lin in approximately the same. Would say IT2 is better but it's close.
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IT2 is Lin's best case scenario when he runs the offense at Brooklyn. I wanna believe, but his skillset seems best for 6th man.
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Ezeli to portland on 16/2years. We get to keep our RFAs too!
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shieeeeet, it's 7.4m the first year and 7.3 the second with a team option.
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On July 08 2016 10:35 zulu_nation8 wrote:
ok, warriors are fucked
Bookmarking this for when they go back 2 back. Ezeli's pretty irrelevant. Durant, Draymond, Zaza and West will do fine.
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Ezeli was playing so badly in the playoffs that he basically was unplayable against the Thunder and Cavs. The Warriors aren't going to miss him.
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crazy that Mozgov got 16 million/year and Ezeli got 7. Why aren't people talking about this being a huge steal? 1 month ago people were hyping the fuck outta this guy, and he plays badly in the finals and everyone ignores him? Weird.
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health issues mainly, bad knees
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On July 08 2016 15:25 Xeris wrote:
crazy that Mozgov got 16 million/year and Ezeli got 7. Why aren't people talking about this being a huge steal? 1 month ago people were hyping the fuck outta this guy, and he plays badly in the finals and everyone ignores him? Weird.
Probably because Ezeli was a massive liability against both OKC & Cleveland. Though the real reasons are a little more detailed:
1) Because of the Durant situation, Ezeli was probably hoping to stick out with GSW, but the market for Big Men was pretty closed by the time Durant choose to sign with GSW.
2) His Agent seems to have not gotten the best deal possible.
3) 2015/Healthy Mozgov is worth 18-20 million per season. That Mozgov is also significantly better than Ezeli.
4) For as much money was out there, the Big Men money had dried up pretty quickly. The Lakers signed Mozgov in the first hour of free agency, and probably got a discount for it. Mozgov could have potentially gotten more other places.
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On July 08 2016 04:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
For KD, the Warriors gave up Barbosa and Bogut. I don't know how good Pachulia is, but Ezeli isn't good and they won't be able to play a bigger lineup as often, which is how they almost lost to OKC when Adams/Kanter dominated them.
Kanter averaged 12 mins a game vs warriors. He was largely irrelevant. I think you're thinking of spurs series where the kanter/Adams front court did all the damage.
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