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JimmiC
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VayneAuthority
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zev318
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JimmyJRaynor
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On July 07 2016 02:27 JimmiC wrote: A link to the ray Allen story, the guy was always beyond fit, one of the most in shape guys in the league. If anyone can turn back the clock and give 15 mins a night it's him. and any player that puts in more the 15 minutes a night in a 7 game series can be a real difference maker... as we saw this year.  | ||
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Xeris
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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but all this speculation is a long way off from actually happening in reality. if Allen plays just like he did when he was ooo say.... 36 years old as another 35 year old veteran did in this years finals Allen could easily end up getting starter minutes in a 7 game series. but again, this is all just speculation. he'll be signed either to play with the Warriors or signed to beat the Warriors. it'll be interesting to see if he can play with the ridiculously high level of athleticism the Cavs and Warriors players displayed in last year's finals. | ||
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JimmiC
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Scarecrow
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On July 07 2016 03:25 JimmyJRaynor wrote: and any player that puts in more the 15 minutes a night in a 7 game series can be a real difference maker... as we saw this year. You're such a hypocrite. You say you want honest debate, but here you're deliberately antagonizing Jimmi with a point you repeated ad nauseam in a 'discussion' that died days ago. It's the second time you've reignited it too. They had very limited depth at SF, Love got hurt for a game and GS went even smaller once Bogut went down, so Lebron played more PF. Context is far more important than just judging a player on minutes played. I've already said all this but your entire argument seems to come down to, "he got a lot of minutes, he must be important" despite every FA ranking putting 70+ players ahead of him. We've been through this, we disagree. Just fucking drop it. | ||
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icystorage
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DystopiaX
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On July 07 2016 10:41 icystorage wrote: Wade to the Bulls "we traded rose because we want to get younger and more athletic" sign rondo and wade also when rose was healthy he was still one of the more athletic guards in the league...guess you can't just admit that you traded rose because your locker room problems got so severe it was either him or Butler. Dunno how to feel yet. Wade clearly can still play, and we were never going to completely bottom out if we kept Butler (and i think we should have- again, you tank to draft a player like Jimmy butler, and it's not even like he's that old) kinda funny that we traded a chicago kid in Rose and picked up another chicago...kid? in Wade | ||
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Scarecrow
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icystorage
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DystopiaX
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On July 07 2016 10:54 icystorage wrote: they'll have to unload some people, hoping the blazers get taj <3 I'd rather keep Taj. IMO out of all the big men we have (him lopez mirotic portis) I'd like to keep him the most, maybe after lopez. Mirotic doesn't play good defense and his shot is inconsistent, portis might have more upside but taj is already proven to be a good thing. Biggest problem with the roster is that if you start something like rondo/wade/butler/mirotic/lopez your outside shooting is piss-poor. I would personally start calderon/wade/butler/mirotic/lopez and let Rondo light up bench defenses as a 6th man but idk if his ego would allow us to do that, also Hoiberg has demonstrated that he can't really control a locker room so that's another issue. definitely an upgrade overall though. I still believe Rose has it- he played extremely well after his eye stuff cleared up- but Wade is a huge improvement overall and Lopez is an upgrade over Noah as well. | ||
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icystorage
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JimmyJRaynor
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On July 03 2016 03:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Luol Deng left for LA. Joe Johnson signed with Utah. That's a big loss for Miami. JJ is another guy tough on the Raptors in the playoffs. at 34 it'll be interesting to see how many years he can play at the level he played at during the 2nd half of the 2015-2016 regular season and the playoffs. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16691520/joe-johnson-utah-jazz-reach-agreement-two-year-deal-worth-22-million-according-multiple-reports i wonder what, if anything, Miami will do about this? is this a sign that Wade is leaving? is Bosh going to play next year? lots of questions for Miami and no answers. i think Wade is gone. and the Bulls have to dump the Captain of the Spanish Olympic Basketball team to get Wade. lololol. Calderon one my favourite all time "good stats guys" who sucks. Bosh is breaking his silence on "Any Given Wednesday" tonight.... it'll be interesting if he says anything about Wade. On July 07 2016 10:12 Scarecrow wrote: You're such a hypocrite. You say you want honest debate, but here you're deliberately antagonizing Jimmi with a point you repeated ad nauseam in a 'discussion' that died days ago. It's the second time you've reignited it too. They had very limited depth at SF, Love got hurt for a game and GS went even smaller once Bogut went down, so Lebron played more PF. Context is far more important than just judging a player on minutes played. I've already said all this but your entire argument seems to come down to, "he got a lot of minutes, he must be important" despite every FA ranking putting 70+ players ahead of him. We've been through this, we disagree. Just fucking drop it. u mad bro? "hypocrite"... big, fancy, serious words about a fun topic. watching and analyzing is for fun .. its not for serious. i already told you that i can name 2 SF playoff bench players that RJ is better than. I'm too lazy to go through the other 14. relative to other bench Small Forwards RJ is good and deserved the "1 more year" chant he got from the Cleveland fans. RJ earned his minutes and played well, shooting over 50% and defending well in games 6 and 7. A 2 game stretch where the GSW was held to a lower point total than at any other time in the playoffs. we've gone over this like 4 times now. i'm done. the minutes (6th most for the playoffs , 5th most in the finals) , the shooting prowess (44/84), the team defense of the Cavs in games 6 and 7 (only 190 in 2 games) all speak for itself. | ||
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cLutZ
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DystopiaX
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On July 07 2016 11:17 cLutZ wrote: Lol. The Bulls are so dumb. What are they doing? If they weren't going to tank (and they can't without unloading butler, and i don't think they should unload Butler) picking up Wade over Calderon is fine. Having no 3 point shooting isn't but it's still decent in a vacuum. I think the Rondo signing was desperation because Calderon is a shitty point and Grant isn't ready yet, and at that point we had no idea Wade might want to come to Chicago at all. Hell, I'm just surprised that any FA would actually want to come to Chicago. Hopefully this means that we can recruit others in the future. Having a hometown dude come back is neat as well. I don't expect we'll win that much more with Wade, but the basketball might be more fun to watch with him. And like I said in the East we weren't ever going to be bad enough to completely bottom out either, so I'd rather watch a slightly better product and lose a couple draft slots than the alternative. Wade is still decent at this point as well, I think it would be best to try to attract free agents as a path to contention over tanking, at least for the situation the Bulls are in. Hope to pull a Rockets and attract FAs to become decent. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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every October he shows up with some nagging injury because he played 10,000 minutes in some stupid international summer tournament that includes basketball superpowers like Iceland and Uganda. | ||
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cLutZ
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On July 07 2016 11:21 DystopiaX wrote: If they weren't going to tank (and they can't without unloading butler, and i don't think they should unload Butler) picking up Wade over Calderon is fine. Having no 3 point shooting isn't but it's still decent in a vacuum. I think the Rondo signing was desperation because Calderon is a shitty point and Grant isn't ready yet, and at that point we had no idea Wade might want to come to Chicago at all. Hell, I'm just surprised that any FA would actually want to come to Chicago. Hopefully this means that we can recruit others in the future. Having a hometown dude come back is neat as well. I don't expect we'll win that much more with Wade, but the basketball might be more fun to watch with him. And like I said in the East we weren't ever going to be bad enough to completely bottom out either, so I'd rather watch a slightly better product and lose a couple draft slots than the alternative. Wade is still decent at this point as well, I think it would be best to try to attract free agents as a path to contention over tanking, at least for the situation the Bulls are in. Hope to pull a Rockets and attract FAs to become decent. I get that Rondo came before you knew wade could be coming, but I feel like my brother got drunk and is now Gar-Pax's head adviser. | ||
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