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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 05 2016 23:55 GMT
#241
West seriously wants a ring.

Sad to see Diaw go from SA, he's been a great fit for us despite disappearing during the OKC series.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 06 2016 00:08 GMT
#242
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 06 2016 00:22 GMT
#243
On July 06 2016 07:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
yep, good point, that's an option.

however, how many teams do you think will be more than $2M below the floor ? i say, not many. there is a million ways to spend money. as of right now, only 6 teams are below the floor (including cap holds).

Boris Diaw got traded to Utah. he is on a 4 year deal... so now that is 5 teams under the salary floor.

maybe Colangelo keeps Philly under teh floor as a good will gesture to his players who are at the start of a long slow rebuild.


I'm surprised there are only 6 teams below the floor. The salary cap went from $70M to $94M with the floor being $84M. The salary cap jump is almost as high as Durant's salary.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17002 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 00:44:50
July 06 2016 00:43 GMT
#244
this is where i get my Cap #s. i think i've posted it before.. but maybe not.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/

the more i think about it.. the more i think Philly's GM would be wise to stay well below the floor and give his guys some extra cash for putting up with a lot of losing and a lot of pain.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 01:38:50
July 06 2016 01:35 GMT
#245
wtf dealing Boris away to Utah? Dubs stacking talent because of CBA. RIP NBA standings.

"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 01:40:10
July 06 2016 01:39 GMT
#246
Dubs picking up a desperate West is definitely a good deal but they already have Speights, although West is a better overall player at that position.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 06 2016 03:07 GMT
#247
On July 06 2016 10:39 Disregard wrote:
Dubs picking up a desperate West is definitely a good deal but they already have Speights, although West is a better overall player at that position.


they'd have to sign him again if they want speights back on the team, pretty much their entire bench had become free agents on july 1.

Jul 1, 2016 - Leandro Barbosa, previously with the Golden State Warriors, became a free agent.
Jul 1, 2016 - Harrison Barnes, previously with the Golden State Warriors, became a free agent.
Jul 1, 2016 - Ian Clark, previously with the Golden State Warriors, became a free agent.
Jul 1, 2016 - Festus Ezeli, previously with the Golden State Warriors, became a free agent.
Jul 1, 2016 - James McAdoo, previously with the Golden State Warriors, became a free agent.
Jul 1, 2016 - Brandon Rush, previously with the Golden State Warriors, became a free agent.
Jul 1, 2016 - Marreese Speights, previously with the Golden State Warriors, became a free agent.
Jul 1, 2016 - Anderson Varejao, previously with the Golden State Warriors, became a free agent.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 06 2016 03:49 GMT
#248
hmm id be worried about depth on GSW now. on paper they have the best starting lineup in the NBA, probably one of the best in history, but looks like theyll be signing the rest of their roster on veteran's minimum.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 05:13:04
July 06 2016 05:12 GMT
#249
Then whos playing the 5 for the dubs? They have to rotate DG with someone, probably resigning Ezeli.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 06 2016 05:45 GMT
#250
These "superteams" are somewhat annoying, but I'm not sure they really represent a longterm problem. The Heat situation was really only an issue because you had 5-6 players signed for below market value and even then they weren't always worldbeaters. That just shows you what sort of value you have to extract sometimes.

The GSW had the remarkable luck and skill to draft 3 top 20 players still on their 2nd and 3rd contracts. Unless you have these very rare circumstances, it doesn't really break the system.

And I can't be the only person who finds the Warriors somewhat boring to watch can I?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 06 2016 06:06 GMT
#251
On July 06 2016 14:12 Disregard wrote:
Then whos playing the 5 for the dubs? They have to rotate DG with someone, probably resigning Ezeli.

pachulia/west
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 06:51:51
July 06 2016 06:50 GMT
#252
Yeah I don't see them having depth issues... Zaza was very solid in Dallas and is a solid upgrade over Ezeli (not worth keeping imo). I'd take West over Speights too. Durant can probably play some C too. Livingston is still one of the best backup PG's in the league. Main issue is finding replacements on the wing for barbosa/rush if they leave. Would love to see a Ray Allen cameo.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 06 2016 07:02 GMT
#253
Oh fuck... We lost diaw and west? How did that happen? Diaw is like my favorite player too.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 06 2016 07:04 GMT
#254
On July 06 2016 08:55 Scarecrow wrote:
West seriously wants a ring.

Sad to see Diaw go from SA, he's been a great fit for us despite disappearing during the OKC series.

The second line makes me sad. One of my favorite players of all time. I'm depressed but at least I like the Jazz so it's a consolation.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 06 2016 08:29 GMT
#255
On July 06 2016 16:02 Elroi wrote:
Oh fuck... We lost diaw and west? How did that happen? Diaw is like my favorite player too.

At least we got 'big boy pants' pau
Yhamm is the god of predictions
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 06 2016 10:56 GMT
#256
On July 06 2016 15:50 Scarecrow wrote:
Yeah I don't see them having depth issues... Zaza was very solid in Dallas and is a solid upgrade over Ezeli (not worth keeping imo). I'd take West over Speights too. Durant can probably play some C too. Livingston is still one of the best backup PG's in the league. Main issue is finding replacements on the wing for barbosa/rush if they leave. Would love to see a Ray Allen cameo.

they don't have a great defensive C anymore and they might still get outrebounded by the best rebounding teams (eg cavs), though obviously they're still way better. Lost a ton of depth this offseason but the upgrade to Durant is easily worth it for them.

Dwade to cleveland would be hilarious, hope it happens for the sheer entertainment value
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 06 2016 12:22 GMT
#257
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 06 2016 15:17 GMT
#258
From what I see, Durant can take Barnes' minutes and more. They were playing Barnes only 20 minutes in a lot of playoff games. Durant can easily play 30+. Pachulia is a decent replacement for Bogut. He doesn't have the passing skills but he should be a better rebounder at this stage of their respective careers. I view West more of a Speights replacement rather than an Ezeli replacement. Livingston and Iggy are still on the team.

So the Warriors need to bring back or replace Barbosa and get another warm body at center to replace Ezeli. That warm body is really mostly to give Pachulia and Draymond rest. The rest can be filled with rookies or cheap veterans.

Why did the Spurs trade Diaw? Did they really need to make that much room to get Gasol? I enjoyed Diaw's play with the Spurs.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7291 Posts
July 06 2016 15:23 GMT
#259
On July 06 2016 00:59 Xeris wrote:
Also Malone and Payton were at the end of their careers, and both of them, especially Malone, spent a lot of the season injured. If you replay that year 100 times, the Lakers would probably win the title 99 times.



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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17002 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 17:10:24
July 06 2016 15:53 GMT
#260
On July 07 2016 00:17 andrewlt wrote:
Why did the Spurs trade Diaw? Did they really need to make that much room to get Gasol? I enjoyed Diaw's play with the Spurs.


he was the only guy who had the right amount of salary.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/cap/

the cap motivates some confounding decisions.

On July 07 2016 00:17 andrewlt wrote:
So the Warriors need to bring back or replace Barbosa and get another warm body at center to replace Ezeli. That warm body is really mostly to give Pachulia and Draymond rest. The rest can be filled with rookies or cheap veterans.

ray allen is sniffing around looking for a job. if GSW steam rolls everyone bench players won't matter. if they're stuck in a tough and close 7 game series sometimes your lower paid players can make a big difference... as Allen did in 2014 for the Heat.

i think Allen is probably too old to play at teh pace the GSWs want to play.
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