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On July 07 2016 11:36 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 11:21 DystopiaX wrote:On July 07 2016 11:17 cLutZ wrote:
Lol. The Bulls are so dumb. What are they doing? If they weren't going to tank (and they can't without unloading butler, and i don't think they should unload Butler) picking up Wade over Calderon is fine. Having no 3 point shooting isn't but it's still decent in a vacuum. I think the Rondo signing was desperation because Calderon is a shitty point and Grant isn't ready yet, and at that point we had no idea Wade might want to come to Chicago at all. Hell, I'm just surprised that any FA would actually want to come to Chicago. Hopefully this means that we can recruit others in the future. Having a hometown dude come back is neat as well. I don't expect we'll win that much more with Wade, but the basketball might be more fun to watch with him. And like I said in the East we weren't ever going to be bad enough to completely bottom out either, so I'd rather watch a slightly better product and lose a couple draft slots than the alternative. Wade is still decent at this point as well, I think it would be best to try to attract free agents as a path to contention over tanking, at least for the situation the Bulls are in. Hope to pull a Rockets and attract FAs to become decent. I get that Rondo came before you knew wade could be coming, but I feel like my brother got drunk and is now Gar-Pax's head adviser.
I agree the fit is horrible but I don't know what better alternatives there are.
Like I said you're not gonna bottom out with Butler anyway, picking up Wade for Calderon/Dunleavy is a fine move.
If we're gonna be a 7-10 seed I'd rather do it watching Dwyane Wade than Jose Calderon. And next year we can offer max to someone with the pitch of playing with Wade/Butler and in Chicago. That's a better pitch than just playing with Butler. Like I said, the best move for the Bulls going forward is to hope to get a FA signing like Horford instead of tanking. Hoping Portis/McDermott/Mirotic continue to develop into good pieces while hoping for such a signing is a decent plan.
idk mostly I'm just excited to be able to watch Dwyane Wade play basketball instead of whatever that shitshow this season was.
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at the very least the bulls should be interesting to watch, which before rondo/wade signing, u could not have said that
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Derek Rose was the Eeyore of the NBA.
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im still hoping for hassan to pull a deandre and sign with the blazers :D (even though he said he'll stay)
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On July 07 2016 13:02 icystorage wrote:
im still hoping for hassan to pull a deandre and sign with the blazers :D (even though he said he'll stay)
pull a deandre sign with dallas, dallas cancels bogut trade, warriors can't find a suitor for bogut, can't sign durant, durant to boston
would be the best shitshow/best deandre situation
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Why do people want Durant in Boston? Hell, why so they like Butler in Boston? Even with Horford they are the most boring decent team on recent memory.
I mean, imposter Isaiah Thomas is like the 13th best PG in the league.
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I love me some IT2, I'd rate him around 7th behind Curry, WB, CP3, Lillard, Lowry and possibly Wall. People want a superstar on Boston cause they've got such a great defensive, bought in team to surround one with (not to mention Stevens), they just lack the extra firepower. It'd also be good for the league to have another contender team to take on the cavs in the east.
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On July 07 2016 17:21 Scarecrow wrote:
I love me some IT2, I'd rate him around 7th behind Curry, WB, CP3, Lillard, Lowry and possibly Wall. People want a superstar on Boston cause they've got such a great defensive, bought in team to surround one with (not to mention Stevens), they just lack the extra firepower. It'd also be good for the league to have another contender team to take on the cavs in the east.
there is no way he's 7th lol
I said boston more because as a viable FA destination that could offer him decent money and a good chance at winning they're the most likely organization right now. And i think with Durant+Horford they'd be an interesting team at least.
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On July 07 2016 18:21 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 17:21 Scarecrow wrote:
I love me some IT2, I'd rate him around 7th behind Curry, WB, CP3, Lillard, Lowry and possibly Wall. People want a superstar on Boston cause they've got such a great defensive, bought in team to surround one with (not to mention Stevens), they just lack the extra firepower. It'd also be good for the league to have another contender team to take on the cavs in the east. there is no way he's 7th lol
I guess I'm a little biased from fantasy, he's around 7th there. Always seems to put up great numbers despite his size and is coping remarkably well with being the #1 option in Boston. Broke some obscure boston scoring records last season too, and its far from the easiest franchise to do it in.
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"Now everybody wanna play for the heat and the Lakers? Let's go back to being competitive and going at these peoples!"
Kevin Durant, 16/07/2010
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On July 07 2016 20:58 Djagulingu wrote:
"Now everybody wanna play for the heat and the Lakers? Let's go back to being competitive and going at these peoples!"
Kevin Durant, 16/07/2010
well he definitely didnt join the heat and the lakers, so he's kept his word
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Let's pay attention to outcomes...
On June 30 2016 22:54 JimmiC wrote:
He could not ... He was lucky to catch on for the minimum last year and it will be the same thing this year
On July 01 2016 12:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i say .. RJ resigns with Cleveland and Cleveland will use one of their veteran exceptions acquired in a trade to give him a raise above the veteran minimum.
Cavs used part of a trade exception to give RJ a raise and they'll sign him July 7 to a 2 year// $5M deal in contrast to last year's last minute minimum 1-year signing. No luck involved this year. Its a preplanned move. My prediction contains a high level of granularity and was dead bang on correct.
Raynor prediction correct. JimmiC prediction incorrect.
i don't claim to be the most knowledgable NBA follower around. WIthout a doubt RowdierBob knows more about the general NBA than i. The only team where my knowledge competes with his is the Toronto Raptors. If one takes the time to "pay attention to outcomes" they'll see that the stuff i say about the Raptors provides insight one can get beyond anything one can search for using google. I'm not going through the laundry list of correct predictions i've made about the Raptors... its all in the threads.
Marco Estrada got named to the AllStar team hahahaha.
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TL needs an ignore button function
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I think the problem with this discussion is there are no clear propositions. Rather you are arguing over some vague notion of goodness.
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On July 07 2016 11:36 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 11:21 DystopiaX wrote:On July 07 2016 11:17 cLutZ wrote:
Lol. The Bulls are so dumb. What are they doing? If they weren't going to tank (and they can't without unloading butler, and i don't think they should unload Butler) picking up Wade over Calderon is fine. Having no 3 point shooting isn't but it's still decent in a vacuum. I think the Rondo signing was desperation because Calderon is a shitty point and Grant isn't ready yet, and at that point we had no idea Wade might want to come to Chicago at all. Hell, I'm just surprised that any FA would actually want to come to Chicago. Hopefully this means that we can recruit others in the future. Having a hometown dude come back is neat as well. I don't expect we'll win that much more with Wade, but the basketball might be more fun to watch with him. And like I said in the East we weren't ever going to be bad enough to completely bottom out either, so I'd rather watch a slightly better product and lose a couple draft slots than the alternative. Wade is still decent at this point as well, I think it would be best to try to attract free agents as a path to contention over tanking, at least for the situation the Bulls are in. Hope to pull a Rockets and attract FAs to become decent. I get that Rondo came before you knew wade could be coming, but I feel like my brother got drunk and is now Gar-Pax's head adviser.
The Bulls might have trouble scoring 80 if the opposing team just has all their guys stand in the paint with their hands up.
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On July 07 2016 23:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I'm not going through the laundry list of correct predictions i've made about the Raptors... its all in the threads.
Well you usually quote yourself to make sure everyone knows and noone bothers to dig up your mistakes/cherrypicking.
Thing is you made multiple predictions for RJ and selectively chose the best one. You quote one of Jimmi's mistakes but another one of his was accurate:
On July 02 2016 22:21 JimmiC wrote:
I bet jefferson makes less money and term then delly even though he played less minutes in game 7 and I have not done "digging or research" If RJ gets more money or term i'll give up the name.
Whilst you virtually covered all your bases with this gem:
On June 29 2016 09:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
RJ will probably get the same deal as last year or a bit better. i'd like to see the guy cash-in though.
You basically did broad enough 'predictions,' that you were almost guaranteed to be correct on some parts, and then self-quoted the best one.
I was wrong about RJ not getting a raise, but that was never really the disagreement. A pay increase of roughly $1 million doesn't indicate a '#2 priority' or 6th man quality FA and they almost certainly would've kept Delly for the same price. RJ even had to use retirement as leverage to get as much as he did. The thing is, you raved about RJ's importance then made several conservative predictions that cover the most likely scenarios but don't support your claims of his value. Now you're trying to claim you're right because he got one of the most pathetically small raises in a year of record salary inflation. Well played.
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Wade returning to Chicago just for his family and nostalgia. Bulls don't have a PG to contend.
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EPT
