On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.

arb

Noobville17922 Posts

August 18 2016 09:28 GMT

#1461

lol this bug on wow is pretty lulzy atm.
one shotting every mob and getting 4-5 lvls per invasion
you go blizz

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

August 18 2016 09:41 GMT

#1462

So the new raid Emerald Nightmare will be the first one right? Then its gonna be like 2 weeks until that opens on Normal/Heroic then we have a what how long until the next one is release? Then you assume the same gap before 7.1 launches.

So; September 21st Emerald Nightmare release
November 20 something next raid?
January 2017 end for 7.1?

I guess that isn't to bad of a break and i wouldn't mind that kind of gap.

Gorsameth

Netherlands22446 Posts

August 18 2016 09:51 GMT

#1463

On August 18 2016 18:41 Pandemona wrote:
So the new raid Emerald Nightmare will be the first one right? Then its gonna be like 2 weeks until that opens on Normal/Heroic then we have a what how long until the next one is release? Then you assume the same gap before 7.1 launches.

So; September 21st Emerald Nightmare release
November 20 something next raid?
January 2017 end for 7.1?

I guess that isn't to bad of a break and i wouldn't mind that kind of gap.

Dates have not yet been made known I think so its all speculation at this point but 2-4 weeks after release Emerald Nightmare opens up together with Mythic+ Dungeons ('normal' mythic will be open from day 1). then after X time Nighthold raid will open.
All we know the gap will be bigger then with HM>BRF and that one was 2 months.

However, there is now talk that Karazan will be released in between Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold so I don't how it is all going to work out Oo

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

August 18 2016 09:52 GMT

#1464

Ahh would make a bit more sense that though if they wanted gap bigger though. Make it a 4 month gap between raids and add in a 7.1 new dungeon / content with still doing things like Mythic plus dungeons and farming Emerald Nightmare i would be happy with that.

But to be fair i did not mind what they were doing in the start of WoD, it wasn't until after BRF that i became bored

Gorsameth

Netherlands22446 Posts

August 18 2016 09:55 GMT

#1465

On August 18 2016 18:52 Pandemona wrote:
Ahh would make a bit more sense that though if they wanted gap bigger though. Make it a 4 month gap between raids and add in a 7.1 new dungeon / content with still doing things like Mythic plus dungeons and farming Emerald Nightmare i would be happy with that.

But to be fair i did not mind what they were doing in the start of WoD, it wasn't until after BRF that i became bored

The problem was that BRF completely invalidated HM (because of ilvl difference) and many guilds were still busy progressing in HM, so they dropped that and just went BRF instead.

Cyro

United Kingdom20340 Posts

August 18 2016 09:56 GMT

#1466

Do dungeons still have heroic difficulty?

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The problem was that BRF completely invalidated HM (because of ilvl difference) and many guilds were still busy progressing in HM, so they dropped that and just went BRF instead.

Blizzard patched BRF some resets after it went live and increased the ilvl of all of the gear with the explicit goal of making BRF stuff clearly better than highmaul stuff (rather than just unlocking tier sets etc)

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

August 18 2016 09:59 GMT

#1467

Yeah BRF was first tier gear after all was always going to be better anyway, but like you said they wanted the gap to be bigger so people finished Highmaul.

Cyro

United Kingdom20340 Posts

August 18 2016 10:01 GMT

#1468

It's a pretty different way of approaching raiding - at the cataclysm launch when they first split into two raids, they launched them simultaneously as one tier with the same level of gear

This WOD and Legion approach seems like the first raid is a half tier to be thrown away when the second half is released since it'll be some months later with better high end gear and better gear at any given skill/effort level

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

August 18 2016 10:03 GMT

#1469

Yeah would be much easier if they did the Cata approach when BoT and BlackRock...something was released and Tier gear was split up that would be a good idea to do this time around. Then you can keep that going from September > January before 7.1 patch then can add in a next raid after that.

Who knows time to sit back and see what Blizzard new fast pace amazing content going to be like xD

Cyro

United Kingdom20340 Posts

August 18 2016 10:04 GMT

#1470

Highmaul through HFC was ~6 months, you can easily have a launch tier (with ~15 bosses) last that long or even longer if there's a solid follow-up

Gorsameth

Netherlands22446 Posts

August 18 2016 10:08 GMT

#1471

Yeah I preferred the split raid with same ilvl released at the same time we had in Wotlk and Cata. sadly Blizzard is going a different route.

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

August 18 2016 10:29 GMT

#1472

Has alot of pros for the modern day raider too. Say if it was 2x 7 boss raids, you might get stuck on 3rd boss in the 1 raid but with the added 2nd raid you might be able to kill 4 of those bosses which means every week you have 7 bosses you can "farm" and then progress on the others. Thus making the raiders feel like they are having more fun by killing more bosses.

Oh well, maybe one day we can run blizzard for them :d

deth2munkies

United States4051 Posts

August 18 2016 11:17 GMT

#1473

Well let's be honest, we know Emerald Nightmare is going to be utterly worthless because it's the same ilvl as Mythic+10 and the Mythic+10 gear can still get titanforged AND is BiS for many classes AND can drop legendaries unlike raids. It's only going to be worth clearing for filling out slots between Mythic+ runs, and as practice for Nighthold that actually drops tier gear.

Cyro

United Kingdom20340 Posts

August 18 2016 11:30 GMT

#1474

On August 18 2016 18:28 arb wrote:
lol this bug on wow is pretty lulzy atm.
one shotting every mob and getting 4-5 lvls per invasion
you go blizz

That's not something that i'd recommend abusing

Grettin

42411 Posts

August 18 2016 13:22 GMT

#1475

On August 18 2016 18:28 arb wrote:
lol this bug on wow is pretty lulzy atm.
one shotting every mob and getting 4-5 lvls per invasion
you go blizz

What this all about?

akatama

Romania982 Posts

August 18 2016 14:27 GMT

#1476

On August 18 2016 20:17 deth2munkies wrote:
Well let's be honest, we know Emerald Nightmare is going to be utterly worthless because it's the same ilvl as Mythic+10 and the Mythic+10 gear can still get titanforged AND is BiS for many classes AND can drop legendaries unlike raids. It's only going to be worth clearing for filling out slots between Mythic+ runs, and as practice for Nighthold that actually drops tier gear.

Erm... I believe raid gear can be titanforged too...

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

August 18 2016 14:48 GMT

#1477

I really dont like this titanforged stuff btw. Way too much RNG. Getting 60 item levels more than the dungeon normally drops or mythic raid gear from a normal quest is just ridiculous. If they so desperately want lower difficulty content to give high end rewards (which I dont agree with either) they could have at least made a system where some currency drops you can then upgrade your stuff with, so that it is consistent and not RNG.

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

August 18 2016 14:50 GMT

#1478

Yeah nothing wrong with say standard drops from the difficulties but you add in valor again and that is used solely to upgrade any piece of gear up 5ilvl at a time to a max of +20ilvl with the same cost as it does now. Sorted, the people who want better gear but want to theoretically do less challenging stuff have their incentive and even those at high end can still get the big boy rewards and even upgrade their gear.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

August 18 2016 14:57 GMT

#1479

Yes 20 item levels at least sounds somewhat reasonable but 60? Wat?

Btw this system also makes it more of a hassle to equip a second spec because even if your first spec is already well equipped you still need to chose dungeon loot for the first spec hoping for the small chance of mythic raid level loot.