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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
On October 31 2018 11:53 Spicy_Curry wrote: Dont rogues vanish for dps anymore? Depends on the spec. For assa and sub yes they do a decent bit for us, but for outlaw its very minimal (you get an ambush vs a SS). For assa I vanish at the odd minute marks due to having a galecallers, for sub I would use vanish to substitute a shadow dance. | ||
TheEmulator
28087 Posts
Assassination is really dependent on traits/talents. I use vanish on CD because I have shrouded suffocation which makes my empowered garrotes chunk real hard. Some people hold for an extra 10-15 seconds to line up as an opener for their second vendetta. As for Outlaw I honestly haven't played much of that spec since I finished leveling (played it exclusively from 1-120 though) so I'm not quite sure about the current vanish meta. I think you just use it on cd for ambush tbh. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Blizzard slows for 1.5 second, down from 15 seconds Frostbolt slows for 8 seconds, down from 15 Frozen orb slows by 30% for 3 seconds, down from 50% for 15 seconds. They also changed the last azerite unlock on gear, the +5 ilvls, to also increase the power of every other selected trait on the gear. They seem to have clarified some tooltips and moved some skills from higher level unlocks to being available at level 1 as well. They nerfed a couple of horde racials, rebalanced a few abilities slightly e.g. 10% damage nerf to uberfrostdragon and 15% nerf to eyebeam's base damage. Atonement on disco priest went from being a 15 second buff to 50 seconds, that's enormous but i'm not completely up to date on how the spec plays at the moment and the other 8.1 changes. AFAIK they wouldn't make that kind of change without a lot more stuff to go along with it, you spend a ton of globals applying and reapplying atonements constantly. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
that execute nerf hurts though, quite a bit | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
On October 31 2018 15:44 arb wrote: wait, was warbreaker only debuffing the primary target the entire time? or is that a clarification on what it does? that execute nerf hurts though, quite a bit Sounds like it was debuffing everything and will continue to do so, but the damage to non-primary-target has been halved. On top of those nerfs they got a 1.18x global damage nerf (112/95 = 1.179x, not 1.17x) so there are probably a set of half implemented changes, they don't make sense on their own. | ||
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Atreides
United States2393 Posts
On October 31 2018 15:25 Cyro wrote: Those meganerfs on frost mages lol Blizzard slows for 1.5 second, down from 15 seconds Frostbolt slows for 8 seconds, down from 15 Frozen orb slows by 30% for 3 seconds, down from 50% for 15 seconds. They also changed the last azerite unlock on gear, the +5 ilvls, to also increase the power of every other selected trait on the gear. They seem to have clarified some tooltips and moved some skills from higher level unlocks to being available at level 1 as well. They nerfed a couple of horde racials, rebalanced a few abilities slightly e.g. 10% damage nerf to uberfrostdragon and 15% nerf to eyebeam's base damage. Atonement on disco priest went from being a 15 second buff to 50 seconds, that's enormous but i'm not completely up to date on how the spec plays at the moment and the other 8.1 changes. AFAIK they wouldn't make that kind of change without a lot more stuff to go along with it, you spend a ton of globals applying and reapplying atonements constantly. im pretty sure they gave pw:s a cooldown or something? anyways I was told you would be applying atonement with shadowmend instead of currently where its mostly radiance and shield. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4540 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
On October 31 2018 20:56 Laurens wrote: Cyro can you link the changes you are discussing? Can't seem to find them on r/wow or r/competitivewow. Already linked but they're generally posted to wowhead when there is a new build There's a discord bot that messages when there is a new build on the download servers, i gotta get that info set up for pm/ping :D | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On October 31 2018 15:25 Cyro wrote:They also changed the last azerite unlock on gear, the +5 ilvls, to also increase the power of every other selected trait on the gear. I'm pretty sure this is just a tooltip clarification, it already does this because the strength of traits is ilvl based You can test it out with a random WQ piece | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
It's not because they fill the same niche with similar spells that they should do that... It's frustrating how much biais there is currently at Blizzard regarding the Havoc / windwalker duo. | ||
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Tappo
101 Posts
On November 01 2018 02:26 Noocta wrote: Why do they feel the need to nerf Fist of Fury at the same time they nerf eye Beam, when Havoc is MILEs ahead of windwalker in AoE currently ? It's not because they fill the same niche with similar spells that they should do that... It's frustrating how much biais there is currently at Blizzard regarding the Havoc / windwalker duo. There is no such thing as a havoc windwalker duo | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
imprison purge aoe stun leech + blur taunt high damage in basically all situations darkness ranged interrupt | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 01 2018 02:26 Noocta wrote: Why do they feel the need to nerf Fist of Fury at the same time they nerf eye Beam, when Havoc is MILEs ahead of windwalker in AoE currently ? It's not because they fill the same niche with similar spells that they should do that... It's frustrating how much biais there is currently at Blizzard regarding the Havoc / windwalker duo. where does it say they nerfed FOF? Edit: nevermind. I didnt see the larger notes.. FUCK me. This is kinda dumb, I dont know how it relates to Havoc, but im already middle of the pack and not perceived as useful as Havoc/Rogue, kinda annoyed. Eyebeam was kind a broken especially with all the other DH benefits, but Im not sure what this nerf is supposed to address. On November 01 2018 03:08 Tappo wrote: There is no such thing as a havoc windwalker duo Sure there is , you take one havoc, and one windwalker. together you have a duo. I dont see whats complicated about this concept. | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
edit: yeah FoF was nerfed like eye beam but it says WW had all its abilities changed from -23% damage to -21% damage so at least there's compensation there. looks like DH got a straight nerf | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 01 2018 05:51 NonY wrote: so after transferring my main back to horde, i submitted a ticket to ask for my two alts to be changed back for free. they won't do it even after i responded to the ticket and they attempted to have an exception made for me. this company is insane that they think 2 alts playing alliance for a month (one of which did nothing more than pick herbs rofl) should cost me $120. apparently $60 is not nearly enough for them for such service. and this is on an account that has played since vanilla... been playing horde on and off for 14 years and a month is too long to revert a faction change edit: yeah FoF was nerfed like eye beam but it says WW had all its abilities changed from -23% damage to -21% damage so at least there's compensation there. looks like DH got a straight nerf yeah, im ok with losing burst for more sustained damage, but after my initial annoyance and a bit more research heres a large slew of changes in the PTR builds so its difficult too say where they are going to end up here. | ||
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