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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

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Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
October 01 2018 10:26 GMT
#9321
Eunora always shoots grape shots (the multi-blasts) from left to right. Once I found that out I think that boss became pretty easy. Although I think there was one time where she didn't backstep and grapeshot causing a wipe.

Shark boss is super annoying for me. Sometimes sharks don't eat blood pools and I get chunked to death.
Stuck.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-01 14:16:55
October 01 2018 14:16 GMT
#9322
- M+ cache was a major downgrade.


What level m+ did you do?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 01 2018 14:41 GMT
#9323
On October 01 2018 19:26 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Eunora always shoots grape shots (the multi-blasts) from left to right. Once I found that out I think that boss became pretty easy. Although I think there was one time where she didn't backstep and grapeshot causing a wipe.

Shark boss is super annoying for me. Sometimes sharks don't eat blood pools and I get chunked to death.


What always gets me is the sharp shot or whatever. The single target nuke. I have no idea how to dodge it. If I get hit by it, I die every time. Can't figure out wtf I'm supposed to do.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-01 15:29:13
October 01 2018 15:06 GMT
#9324
On October 01 2018 23:41 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2018 19:26 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Eunora always shoots grape shots (the multi-blasts) from left to right. Once I found that out I think that boss became pretty easy. Although I think there was one time where she didn't backstep and grapeshot causing a wipe.

Shark boss is super annoying for me. Sometimes sharks don't eat blood pools and I get chunked to death.


What always gets me is the sharp shot or whatever. The single target nuke. I have no idea how to dodge it. If I get hit by it, I die every time. Can't figure out wtf I'm supposed to do.


I've never had a problem with that, dungeon journal says that it's just flat unavoidable damage. Being a nelf DH i probably popped blur/shadowmeld/blur when targetted but i can't remember it ever killing me even without mitigation. What kind of HP do you have and what level dungeon is that on? I've done Freehold 13 Tyrannical. Always found the shark boss a lot harder, it's a bit buggy and can 100-0 people really fast if they screw up on positioning or get buggy shark

Have you ever wondered why a boost cost more than the expansion that comes with a boost? It’s because they want to show success by how many copies are sold.


This is an excellent point, people don't buy character boosts any more. They buy BFA on a second WoW account (the only thing that you have to buy now as it comes with all previous content and 30 days playtime) and then that unlocks a battlenet-wide boost token which they then use on their main account. The expansion is both cheaper and more regularly discounted. At best it's a pretty silly oversight that's been there for quite a while now! Some whales have been buying 5 copies of BFA since last year to get a whole list of 110's so the expansion bought stat is not really a fair comparison to older expansions.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 01 2018 15:52 GMT
#9325
On October 02 2018 00:06 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2018 23:41 Mohdoo wrote:
On October 01 2018 19:26 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Eunora always shoots grape shots (the multi-blasts) from left to right. Once I found that out I think that boss became pretty easy. Although I think there was one time where she didn't backstep and grapeshot causing a wipe.

Shark boss is super annoying for me. Sometimes sharks don't eat blood pools and I get chunked to death.


What always gets me is the sharp shot or whatever. The single target nuke. I have no idea how to dodge it. If I get hit by it, I die every time. Can't figure out wtf I'm supposed to do.


I've never had a problem with that, dungeon journal says that it's just flat unavoidable damage. Being a nelf DH i probably popped blur/shadowmeld/blur when targetted but i can't remember it ever killing me even without mitigation. What kind of HP do you have and what level dungeon is that on? I've done Freehold 13 Tyrannical. Always found the shark boss a lot harder, it's a bit buggy and can 100-0 people really fast if they screw up on positioning or get buggy shark

Show nested quote +
Have you ever wondered why a boost cost more than the expansion that comes with a boost? It’s because they want to show success by how many copies are sold.


This is an excellent point, people don't buy character boosts any more. They buy BFA on a second WoW account (the only thing that you have to buy now as it comes with all previous content and 30 days playtime) and then that unlocks a battlenet-wide boost token which they then use on their main account. The expansion is both cheaper and more regularly discounted. At best it's a pretty silly oversight that's been there for quite a while now! Some whales have been buying 5 copies of BFA since last year to get a whole list of 110's so the expansion bought stat is not really a fair comparison to older expansions.


Heh, guess I should be using blur <_< >_> This is my first time ever "actually" playing WoW, so there are a lot of things I am just doing downright wrong. Up until this exp, I have always just leveled to max level and called it good, playing it as basically a single player game. My movement also kinda sucks. I find that a lot of people who have played WoW for longer than me are able to maneuver around obstacles and lava a lot more efficiently than me. That's another thing I am working on.

I'm a blood elf DH and I was getting 1 shotted when I had ~345 ilvl in a mythic 9. I have since managed to catch up a bit, now rocking 356. I need to be using blur more often. I take way too much damage and I never use blur. I'm really enjoying learning how to play my character better. Thanks for the advice

I've been considering trying to actually join a guild to run mythics with. I don't have too hard a time just using the group finder. But the community aspect would be cool I think.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
October 01 2018 16:14 GMT
#9326
np ;D

That's a lower gear level than i've taken into that boss difficulty level. You can also get priest buff (+10% hp) or scroll (+7% hp) so i have ~155k HP when running dungeons now

Blur makes you take 1.54x less damage and has a 60s CD so it makes a pretty big difference if you're not using it or popping it a few times per run vs somebody else popping it 20 times
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
October 01 2018 17:28 GMT
#9327
Is there a pattern to sharks? As far as I can tell, first shark goes on ranged 2nd one is random since he usually does it after a pickup.
Stuck.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-01 18:09:00
October 01 2018 17:53 GMT
#9328
I think he tends to throw them at people at least X yards away and then afterwards they follow the closest person, switching whenever a new person is closest. After eating 1 pile of meat they get slowed for the rest of their life, so ideally you only eat 1 and build up a lot of meats which the ranged stand near so that they can easily handle future sharks
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
October 01 2018 18:16 GMT
#9329
anyone do any pvp? Arena or RBG's?

looking for some people to do some chill stuff with but are still somewhat competent. Nothing too serious. I really want a hippo haha
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
October 01 2018 19:47 GMT
#9330
Endless Halls.

Worst content ever invented in any game. Fricking Rogue/Priest in S3 Arena vs invincible Resto/Warri was more fun. Hell, duelling a rogue with all cooldowns in classic as priest or warlock was more fun.

Getting my toe nails pulled and my skin completely and slowly scratched off with them is more fun.

Jesus christ who came up with that kind of bullshit.
On track to MA1950A.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 00:22:26
October 01 2018 23:58 GMT
#9331
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9kjje0/bricked_10_sethralis_orb_bug_gm_response/?sort=top

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"Exclusive video from Blizzards bug report department."

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The costs of creating Potions of Rising Death and Potions of Bursting Blood have been reduced. Since these potions have non-stat effects, it has been difficult to judge whether or not you should use them instead of stat potions. In practice, both contribute a similar amount of damage, but these potions are more constrained, since they are direct damage. We’re reducing their costs to make the decision of whether to use them or not more of a question of economics, rather than a question of straight throughput. The goal is for these potions to provide most of the effectiveness of a Battle Potion, at a lower cost.


This is pretty baffling as well. I wasn't even aware that these potions existed, having never used them or seen anybody mention them until today. Upon checking it looks like Bursting Blood significantly beats out battle potion of agility for havoc ST (by 1.3x!), although it's not on the patchwerk sim profile and again nobody mentioned it. I think many people like me just didn't even know that it existed :D

Secondly, after the materials nerf it's still more expensive than battle potions of agility at 500g a pop instead of 450. They're both obscenely expensive right now.. compared to my Legion income, imagine popping 2500 gold instead of 40 per prolonged power? It's not at all sustainable. Mythic raid enrage timers only! The days of popping 500 potions a week without a second thought are long gone, there's no way to replace that kind of money.

I've been extremely careful with my money recently and i'm still bleeding out from basic stuff like repairs and flasks in heroic raids. Battle shout/hp scroll in mythic>10, etc, those might have to go too.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 00:50:16
October 02 2018 00:33 GMT
#9332
The only reason they are more expensive is because they are bought more. They are significantly more dps than singletarget than the stat ones as you said and both potions (used to) cost 18 regular flowers. I dont know why they are that expensive tbh. Really gotta have a herbalist/alch alt this expansion.
Anyway, all consumables aside, i dont get how the economy is holding up. There is basically 0 gold faucet in the game right now and if you are raiding or running m+ you bleed gold heavily in repair cost. So at some point prices have to drop because no one has any gold other than the hoarders.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 01:30:29
October 02 2018 00:36 GMT
#9333
Yeah i can't imagine anyone is not losing gold unless they're being smart with consumable usage and also spending quite a few hours making money. I'm holding onto mine and still bleeding out, if i didn't have a stockpile i would have been screwed a while ago. I expect stuff to be a lot cheaper in 3 months.

My essential gold expenditure (repairs, stuff like weapon enchants) is probably higher than income just by itself! I don't even have the good ring enchants for probably the first time ever.

Side note, the +3% movement speed gems which apparently also exist are broken at the moment. I was considering dropping 40 vers for one and being hated on for half the expansion but they don't do anything so i guess i'm saved

---

ALSO i think they just fixed the loot thing, i just got four items from a timed >10 chest for the first time (post hotfixes today)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 02 2018 01:44 GMT
#9334
Just running around doing WQ and herbing, I had mats for about double the number of strength potions as bursting blood (fury warrior prefers bursting blood single target) every time before raid I was crafting. So this will definitely help me. Last week I got an 18-proc crafting combat potions which was nice.

It’s gotta be relative availability of herbs.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 02:08:31
October 02 2018 02:07 GMT
#9335
On October 02 2018 10:44 Danglars wrote:
Just running around doing WQ and herbing, I had mats for about double the number of strength potions as bursting blood (fury warrior prefers bursting blood single target) every time before raid I was crafting. So this will definitely help me. Last week I got an 18-proc crafting combat potions which was nice.

It’s gotta be relative availability of herbs.


They tweaked the herb focus on mainstat pots

Battle Potion of Agility now requires 8 x Siren's Pollen (down from 10) and 10 x Riverbud (up from 8).


Potion of Bursting Blood now requires 8 x Siren's Pollen (down from 10) and 6 x Riverbud (down from 8).


so BB is straight up easier to craft now, you'll be able to craft equal amount to 1.67x more depending on your materials

Thinking of picking up herbing on my druid and locking her to 110. Is there any problem with doing that?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
October 02 2018 07:15 GMT
#9336
Bursting blood is best for Frost DK single target too.
Not sure how you've not heard of it Cyro, any guide will tell you to use it

I make decent money going on the occasional herbing run. My guild provides Feasts and Cauldrons in raid, I don't really have any expenses except repair cost.

If your guild forces you to bring your own flasks on raids, join a different guild
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 08:15:59
October 02 2018 08:13 GMT
#9337
On October 02 2018 11:07 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2018 10:44 Danglars wrote:
Just running around doing WQ and herbing, I had mats for about double the number of strength potions as bursting blood (fury warrior prefers bursting blood single target) every time before raid I was crafting. So this will definitely help me. Last week I got an 18-proc crafting combat potions which was nice.

It’s gotta be relative availability of herbs.


They tweaked the herb focus on mainstat pots

Show nested quote +
Battle Potion of Agility now requires 8 x Siren's Pollen (down from 10) and 10 x Riverbud (up from 8).


Show nested quote +
Potion of Bursting Blood now requires 8 x Siren's Pollen (down from 10) and 6 x Riverbud (down from 8).


so BB is straight up easier to craft now, you'll be able to craft equal amount to 1.67x more depending on your materials

Thinking of picking up herbing on my druid and locking her to 110. Is there any problem with doing that?


What's the point of locking your druid to 110? You get decent XP by herbing and not to mention levels help the farming process in most of the farming spots in BFA.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
October 02 2018 08:34 GMT
#9338
If you have good gear at 110 that’s basically your maximum power spike while leveling. ie the strongest you are relative to mobs till you are like 340 at least. I’d assume that’s why he’s considering it. And I don’t see a drawback except that if you plan on leveling in future you’re “wasting” some xp
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
October 02 2018 10:35 GMT
#9339
On October 02 2018 17:34 Atreides wrote:
If you have good gear at 110 that’s basically your maximum power spike while leveling. ie the strongest you are relative to mobs till you are like 340 at least. I’d assume that’s why he’s considering it. p


Yeah, i guess thats true.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 11:54:03
October 02 2018 11:15 GMT
#9340
Because having my druid in 250 gear at level 120 will suck for herbing, but 250 at 110 with tier and legendaries can wreck mobs :D TRIPLE MOONFIRE BABY

My question was more along the lines of.. i can unlock herb ranks and stuff at 110 right?

Not sure how you've not heard of it Cyro, any guide will tell you to use it


I'm usually writing guides/info myself at this point, but it's not mentioned in the other havoc resources and it's not on the simc patchwerk/import profile.

"Battle Potion of Agility is the DPS potion of choice for Havoc in all situations currently"

It's not on many of the top logs! Having asked around, a lot of us didn't know that it existed or knew about it but thought it was too bad to be worth bothering with. I just simmed yesterday and was like wait wtf and then found out that some other classes use 'em all the time :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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