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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Fatmatt2000
Profile Joined January 2006
United States159 Posts
August 24 2018 06:22 GMT
#8741
https://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/us

This is done by how many people kill raid bosses on servers so its a. old and b. only about raiding population

I can't imagine its changed a ton however
Quote?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 24 2018 10:48 GMT
#8742
Out of curiosity, did anyone do honor farming in darkshore in the pre-event? Where there would be two groups gathered up and you basically traded honor kills?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 24 2018 13:54 GMT
#8743
some guildmates did it - got a warning for their account and honor removed
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-24 15:03:33
August 24 2018 14:56 GMT
#8744
I got Teebu's sword and undercut everyone on the AH and it didn't sell

Really wish I had gotten it day 1...

It's kinda weird how if you didn't bank gold from Garrison / Order Hall missions, and you didn't sell carries or play the economy (sucking up all the gold from the casuals who banked gold from Garrison / Order Hall missions), then you find yourself pretty damn poor. Like you absolutely have to take gathering professions I think and just sell mats for a while at least. If you get a BoE you have to sell it. You can't buy any BoE's, can't buy potions and flasks, etc. At least the cheap gems and enchants are actually cheap.

I guess that's fair but I figured this expansion would have an easy gold farm like missions were before. So I think the weird thing is if they take that away. Maybe it'll come later in the expansion like it did for Draenor and Legion.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
August 24 2018 16:06 GMT
#8745
I did a lot of herbing and have over 3k herbs when I got rank 3 flasks. Just struggling to get anchor weed because its pretty rare (even at rank 3 you only get 3-5 per herb). On my server cluster its 50g per herb, and 500g per anchor weed. Flasks range from 3.5-4k a pop.

I feel like raid week will be even higher.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-24 16:14:32
August 24 2018 16:09 GMT
#8746
It's kinda weird how if you didn't bank gold from Garrison / Order Hall missions, and you didn't sell carries or play the economy (sucking up all the gold from the casuals who banked gold from Garrison / Order Hall missions), then you find yourself pretty damn poor. Like you absolutely have to take gathering professions I think and just sell mats for a while at least. If you get a BoE you have to sell it. You can't buy any BoE's, can't buy potions and flasks, etc. At least the cheap gems and enchants are actually cheap.


With the increase in gold value i'm regretting spending so much in the first 48hrs. Don't think i'l be making gold by the millions again any time soon. I'm glad that the economy isn't driven by automatic mobile-game gold any more though, other stuff can step up to replace it and the cost of everything will adjust after the launch rush. The garrison + classhall billions have created a pretty huge bubble to pop
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-24 16:52:31
August 24 2018 16:50 GMT
#8747
On August 25 2018 01:06 Alventenie wrote:
I did a lot of herbing and have over 3k herbs when I got rank 3 flasks. Just struggling to get anchor weed because its pretty rare (even at rank 3 you only get 3-5 per herb). On my server cluster its 50g per herb, and 500g per anchor weed. Flasks range from 3.5-4k a pop.

I feel like raid week will be even higher.

With how you can not specifically farm anchor weed as you could do with roses in Legion I suspect prices for all other herbs will stay low or even fall further because they will all be collected while people search for anchor weed which will be the bottle neck..

Maybe if it gets too bad blizz will introduce some vendor where you can trade anchor weed for other herbs or something along those lines, but that would still be far away.
Off-season = best season
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
August 24 2018 18:33 GMT
#8748
Its true. I have ~1800-2000 spare herbs after making flasks, but no anchor weed. Hope they increase the spawn rate even a little, been on today doing all WQs and seen 2 anchor weed all day.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 24 2018 21:26 GMT
#8749
You should put them all on the ah @1 per stack.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-24 22:16:55
August 24 2018 22:02 GMT
#8750
This is exactly how it worked 4 years ago when someone wearing Siege of Orgrimmar gear was wrecking level 90 enemies in Frostfire or Shadowmoon at 90, and then started to have a tough time against level 97 mobs in Spires of Arak at level 97. Higher-level enemies are tougher.


Speaking of WOD, i actually didn't have this experience. My quest geared hunter had an easy time leveling. When i hit 100 before i even left the zone i was actually able to oneshot mobs in nagrand with chimaera shot crits, it wasn't a fight at all. Gear just made me overkill them by 5x. My hunter was doing that from dinging level 60 and unlocking chimaera shot all the way through level cap in quest gear and that was just how the game was designed and balanced at the time, extremely low time-to-kill across the board.

It was significantly easier than even my geared DH has it in the open world of BFA today. I actually took a video of it at the time because i thought it was ridiculous compared to playing the game in Classic through Cata.


I think that's where some of the disconnect is coming from, stuff in general used to be really undertuned in the MOP and WOD era to the point where blowing up a mob in a few globals could be considered normal in bad gear and taking 10 seconds to kill something - even in quest gear - is really odd for people who started playing around that time. It's the standard now and it really should be, but a lot of people aren't used to that.

With 2 resets of mythic dungeon gear i can aoe pull and blow stuff up in the world without threat of dying and it's about to get way easier with uldir/m+, i think that the current power level is more than fine. The anomalous thing IMO was the complete godmode, pull-30-elites-at-freehold-entrance-and-eyebeam-them-down level of power that we had for those first 6 levels; i've never been that OP before.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-25 05:29:41
August 25 2018 04:11 GMT
#8751
First wave of azerite tuning just hit -


Duplicative Incineration (Mage) damage reduced by 50%.
Galvanizing Spark (Mage) Arcane Blast damage increase reduced by 10%.
High Noon (Druid) damage reduced by 52%.
Inevitable Demise (Warlock) no longer erroneously increases Drain Soul damage.
Judicious Defense (Paladin) fixed an issue causing this trait to display two separate buff icons.
Pressure Point (Monk) damage for Brewmaster reduced by 60%. Damage for Mistweaver reduced by 28.5%.
Revolving Blades (Demon Hunter) now reduces your next Blade Dance by 3 Fury per enemy struck (was 5).
Seismic Wave (Warrior) damage reduced by 58%.
Shrouded Suffocation (Rogue) damage reduced by 11%. Fixed an issue that caused this trait's damage increase to fail.
Swelling Streams (Shaman) healing reduced by 30%.
Unbound Chaos (Demon Hunter) damage reduced by 53%


There's a bunch that won't be used much still 'cause they're underwhelming, would like to see them tuned up soonish

some trinkets got fixed/buffed as well

edit: and they ninja killed the reusable augment runes
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 25 2018 06:36 GMT
#8752
So I presume 8.1 is when they'll do their big balance sweep, cause I feel really uncomfortable with my Resto Shaman's Lava Bursts doing more damage than my Elemental Shaman's Lava Bursts. It also feels weird that its significantly easier to do world content as Resto over Ele. Ele just kind of feels like hot salted garbage at the moment, but I dunno if thats due to world content being a little janked up or if Ele is just legitimately bad right now.

I'm sure plenty of other classes are feeling similar poor performance.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22069 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-25 09:06:04
August 25 2018 09:05 GMT
#8753
A big balance sweep should come in before the raid opens.
Anything more in depth then strait numbers tuning will need to wait for 8.1
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 25 2018 10:15 GMT
#8754
I definitely dont like the new BFA warrior tanking. Ignore Pain on gcd, Charge/Intercept on gcd, Revenge (one of the few aoe warriors have) is high rage cost now. So typically Im just spamming Shield Slam+Thunder Clap till Revenge can proc and I can start synergizing that with Ignore Pain. It all just feels so clunky and slow.

Rolling a WW Monk and the gameplay feels exponentially faster.
Skol
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
August 25 2018 11:33 GMT
#8755
On August 25 2018 07:02 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
This is exactly how it worked 4 years ago when someone wearing Siege of Orgrimmar gear was wrecking level 90 enemies in Frostfire or Shadowmoon at 90, and then started to have a tough time against level 97 mobs in Spires of Arak at level 97. Higher-level enemies are tougher.


Speaking of WOD, i actually didn't have this experience. My quest geared hunter had an easy time leveling. When i hit 100 before i even left the zone i was actually able to oneshot mobs in nagrand with chimaera shot crits, it wasn't a fight at all. Gear just made me overkill them by 5x. My hunter was doing that from dinging level 60 and unlocking chimaera shot all the way through level cap in quest gear and that was just how the game was designed and balanced at the time, extremely low time-to-kill across the board.


There is alot of class variance in this sorta thing, I had exactly that experience as a shadow priest in wod, from spires of arak onward i struggled with single mobs at a time. Leveled as disc this time and it was slow but not hard, but leveling my dk to 120 was like playing an entirely different game, could mass pull and aoe down the whole time and at 120, even in 275 ilvl. They put alot of effort into balancing classes for pvp/dungeons/raids, but theres still massive imbalances in open world content.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 25 2018 12:17 GMT
#8756


Bravo. Hell of a reveal.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-25 13:07:23
August 25 2018 13:05 GMT
#8757
When he said I've tasted your essence I half expected Dehaka to appear.

Anyway he sounds like a cool enemy, I just hope they don't make horde and alliance work together again because that would be some bs
Neosteel Enthusiast
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-25 15:13:30
August 25 2018 15:12 GMT
#8758
That make some wonder, what are the theories on what will happen with Sylvanas? Because before we actually deal with N'Zoth or even just Azshara I suspect that issue would have to be resolved first.

So far I have just seem some half-serious "oh well she will be Garrosh no. 2", but nothing even remotely specific. Of course there is a reason Saurfang is still alive and in Alliance custody.
Off-season = best season
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 25 2018 15:24 GMT
#8759
On August 25 2018 19:15 Emnjay808 wrote:
I definitely dont like the new BFA warrior tanking. Ignore Pain on gcd, Charge/Intercept on gcd, Revenge (one of the few aoe warriors have) is high rage cost now. So typically Im just spamming Shield Slam+Thunder Clap till Revenge can proc and I can start synergizing that with Ignore Pain. It all just feels so clunky and slow.

Rolling a WW Monk and the gameplay feels exponentially faster.

I also don’t like how the changes feel. However, reading the guide on icy veins helped me abandon what warrior tanking used to feel like, and transition towards a clunkier alternative that still works. Talents help with rage gen, and eventually you can get in a rhythm with shield block and ignore pain that does ok.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-25 16:25:26
August 25 2018 16:24 GMT
#8760
If you made a new alt in Legion the missionboards were superlow goldwise aswell, it'll increase just fine Nony but obviously yeah gold is a part of the game where "being behind" feels kinda, well, annoying maybe? But still, even I that have millions didn't buy boe items day 1-2 and I am still herb/mining on my alt and herb/alch on my main. That in itself is another discussion because I feel that besides Alchemy, which I had at 150 with revered with everything really fast, there's nothing that makes me go "Hey, this major profession looks great! I'll drop herbalism on my main for it!"

On another note I hit exalted 7th legion this morning and unlocked the Dark Irons, man they look metal. The questchain was loooong though.
Hope you are all having a great time! I'm loving the expansion so far.
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