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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
February 26 2018 15:46 GMT
#7821
But my point is that you can know something and still do the mistake/actively decide to do something different. The window is literally that tiny that you cant finish a cast but you will have dozens of wipes with a mediocre guild because of people thinking they still can "just finish this one little frostbolt before i start moving". And even though the last try you wiped to it the next guy will still try it too because he thinks its a different situation and his hardcast pyro will finish in time and he will be the hero with the murder deeps. It's similar for other bosses with move mechanics. Take KJ as an example. People know they have to move but you will still get a fire orb in melee because the mage/owl/warlock whatever just had to finish his cast before he decided to move his ass. Not because he doesnt know the ability. On most bosses you dont wipe immediately, only lose a guy or get some more raid dmg.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 16:33:19
February 26 2018 16:31 GMT
#7822
On February 27 2018 00:46 Warri wrote:
But my point is that you can know something and still do the mistake/actively decide to do something different. The window is literally that tiny that you cant finish a cast but you will have dozens of wipes with a mediocre guild because of people thinking they still can "just finish this one little frostbolt before i start moving". And even though the last try you wiped to it the next guy will still try it too because he thinks its a different situation and his hardcast pyro will finish in time and he will be the hero with the murder deeps. It's similar for other bosses with move mechanics. Take KJ as an example. People know they have to move but you will still get a fire orb in melee because the mage/owl/warlock whatever just had to finish his cast before he decided to move his ass. Not because he doesnt know the ability. On most bosses you dont wipe immediately, only lose a guy or get some more raid dmg.


Yeah hes right, its not about people not knowing, its about people getting greedy. In alot of ways Log ranks are probably the worst thing I have seen in this game since I came back.

Back when i ran WOL + Show Spoiler +
(World of logs)
logs the goal was to glean information completely oriented to finding specific issues during fights. DPS was only a concern if we were struggling to hit some kind of timer or enrage.

Parsing ranks are relatively meaningless in HC and Normal. The one tier I did mythic raiding it was all 99-100's by virtue of just being geared. I could be totally lazy and still parse on those. And on mythic parsing while important, is the biggest cancer I have ever encountered. Through the first two tiers my guild went from being like in the mid 300's in kill times to 100-120 in ranks at the end just by virtue of phasing out parselords who were only value on farm content.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 13:52:40
February 27 2018 13:27 GMT
#7823
What about the people that don't know AND get greedy Like, we had a whole rehearsal thing with raid and player markers because only about 5 people out of 20 understood the movement pattern and timing when they showed up to the raid.. and then the next 10+ pulls after that all failed on the first debuff due to it being incorrectly handled.

i do dps parses to push myself and compare vs previous performances on ez content that people will stomp either way, that rarely crosses over well into mythic.. even Garothi and Goroth went terribly when people got into the wrong mindsets
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
February 27 2018 14:43 GMT
#7824
On February 27 2018 22:27 Cyro wrote:
What about the people that don't know AND get greedy Like, we had a whole rehearsal thing with raid and player markers because only about 5 people out of 20 understood the movement pattern and timing when they showed up to the raid.. and then the next 10+ pulls after that all failed on the first debuff due to it being incorrectly handled.


I honestly dont know, I have been fortunate enough to not have played with anyone like that.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
February 27 2018 16:35 GMT
#7825
On February 21 2018 19:50 Laurens wrote:
Yeah that's what i used. As soon as the app reported 60+% bad luck protection I queued for legion LFRs and usually got my drop the same day.


[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
February 27 2018 17:23 GMT
#7826
On February 28 2018 01:35 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 19:50 Laurens wrote:
Yeah that's what i used. As soon as the app reported 60+% bad luck protection I queued for legion LFRs and usually got my drop the same day.


[image loading]


This would be the time to spam the crap out of Legion LFR

Unlucky man, I always got mine well before 80%
I guess you're repeatedly doing an activity that awards more % in the add-on than it actually does, but what could that be..
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 09:08:38
February 27 2018 17:28 GMT
#7827
On February 28 2018 02:23 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 01:35 Cyro wrote:
On February 21 2018 19:50 Laurens wrote:
Yeah that's what i used. As soon as the app reported 60+% bad luck protection I queued for legion LFRs and usually got my drop the same day.


[image loading]


This would be the time to spam the crap out of Legion LFR

Unlucky man, I always got mine well before 80%
I guess you're repeatedly doing an activity that awards more % in the add-on than it actually does, but what could that be..


Very unlucky or bugged for sure, the slowest i've recorded by far since ~november droprate buff and it's also enough to show error in the weights since it wouldn't happen without that error as well lol

mostly invasion point but i've done so many and seen so many legendaries drop in them that it's really unusually slow

Got it at 117% right before the reset, KJ's burning wish
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 27 2018 18:30 GMT
#7828
I decided to take some of my money spread out on various realms and buy battlepets and see if i couldn't make a gold cap on a single realm before BFA by flipping battle pets, seems to be doing okay. Had roughly 500k spread out on servers i didn't play on anymore, spent 400k and i'm nearing 2 million in value on the AH, now it just needs to actually start selling but i'm patient. Transmogs and pets take time.

Although decided to snipe while i'm doing other things so i guess it won't be money exclusively from battlepets after all
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
February 28 2018 14:41 GMT
#7829
Weekly chest upgrade yay
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 28 2018 15:16 GMT
#7830
Haha nice, upgrade is upgrade when it comes from weekly caches as they are normally awful right!
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
February 28 2018 15:30 GMT
#7831
On February 28 2018 23:41 Warri wrote:
Weekly chest upgrade yay
[image loading]


I like how probably the entire world has sets that revolve around leggo combos.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
March 03 2018 00:54 GMT
#7832
Got my keys done for the mdi qualifiers. Im so hyped for upscaled t20 and good trinkets just to pewpew around a bit.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
March 03 2018 07:48 GMT
#7833
Good luck ;D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
March 04 2018 04:24 GMT
#7834
So I boosted a Goblin Rogue, and I tried out Ass, liked it fair enough, tried out Sub and thought about the same, I tried Outlaw and liked it, specced SnD and now LOVE it, and I tried to go back Ass and HOLY GOD does it just feel terrible to sit there and do nothing for extended periods of time to pool energy.

Am I missing something or is Assassination just always going to be a great deal of just pooling energy?

Outlaw with SnD has consistent energy, a nice kind of wax and wane burst feel to it, and I love it, but I'd also like to get into Ass because I like having two specs for my pure DPS classes so if one is just heinously terrible I have a fallback option.

Any advice for Assassination?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
March 04 2018 10:39 GMT
#7835
I tried Outlaw and liked it, specced SnD and now LOVE it


Heard this from every outlaw rogue that i've played with since nighthold, not that many but they were pretty much 100% SnD-or-die and hating on RTB. I agree with a lot of that and am hoping they make it the core style for future play since they gave it a backseat and balanced it poorly throughout legion

can't say that i know much about ass (;D ;D) or sub though
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
March 04 2018 10:40 GMT
#7836
got my Priest to 58, it wasn't too bad with full heirlooms. Did 4-5 full zones and every single classic dg once.

I've heard bad things about 58-80 but so far it's more than fine. At 58 you unlock 2 dungeons, do 1 to hit 59, unlock 2 more, do 1 to hit 60, unlock 2 more ...

No complaints so far
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-04 11:30:47
March 04 2018 11:29 GMT
#7837
On March 04 2018 19:40 Laurens wrote:
got my Priest to 58, it wasn't too bad with full heirlooms. Did 4-5 full zones and every single classic dg once.

I've heard bad things about 58-80 but so far it's more than fine. At 58 you unlock 2 dungeons, do 1 to hit 59, unlock 2 more, do 1 to hit 60, unlock 2 more ...

No complaints so far


Did you check the health on bosses? Some stuff might have been hotfixed without patch notes; i saw some weird changes mid-leveling myself. When i hit 60 the bosses in Zul'Farrak had around 400-500k hp, in WOTLK around 60% of that and in TBC around 30% - all of them scale to level 60 and allow for queue.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 04 2018 11:34 GMT
#7838
I never checked health but just leveled past 60 and it still felt that way. TBC dungeons went so much faster than the classic ones. Also had wipes and dissolving groups in classic. :D
Off-season = best season
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-04 12:00:17
March 04 2018 11:59 GMT
#7839
On March 04 2018 20:29 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 19:40 Laurens wrote:
got my Priest to 58, it wasn't too bad with full heirlooms. Did 4-5 full zones and every single classic dg once.

I've heard bad things about 58-80 but so far it's more than fine. At 58 you unlock 2 dungeons, do 1 to hit 59, unlock 2 more, do 1 to hit 60, unlock 2 more ...

No complaints so far


Did you check the health on bosses? Some stuff might have been hotfixed without patch notes; i saw some weird changes mid-leveling myself. When i hit 60 the bosses in Zul'Farrak had around 400-500k hp, in WOTLK around 60% of that and in TBC around 30% - all of them scale to level 60 and allow for queue.


I've been paying some attention to boss hp and it seems like classic bosses had close to 300k HP when I was around lvl 55, while the bosses in TBC/WOTLK are around 250k-300k while I'm 62 now.

On that note, 62 and 4 new dungeons unlocked along the way, they must've patched something because right now 60-80 is looking much better than 1-60 and that goes against pretty much everything I've read

Also what the guy above me said is so true, only ~3 bosses per dungeon and no maze-like interiors filled with high hp trash packs.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
March 04 2018 12:15 GMT
#7840
From when i ran through i'd say 20-39 was great, everything suddenly had way more hp and dmg from 40, 50-60 was wtf with the tuning being way off compared to everything else, 60-80 was very long compared to before and after it; much harder tuned in WOTLK than in TBC.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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