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BfA Community Links:
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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
February 25 2018 00:39 GMT
#7801
On February 21 2018 05:38 Stancel wrote:
my DH has gotten 3 druid legendary tokens alone, the fuck?

I get that they have 4 specs, but I literally have every other class at 110 plz


update: mage just got another

at least it was lady and the child, assuming that's still relevant as guardian with/without the cloak
ffxiv enjoyer
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-25 04:31:50
February 25 2018 01:52 GMT
#7802
On February 24 2018 21:42 Warri wrote:
are we playing a different legion? because ive been having roughly the same amount of secondaries for 3 tiers now. They already scale like shit. An overbudget legendary amanthus has less secondaries than one of the other panth trinkets at 1k has main stats.


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Legion always gained 1.06x per 15 ilvls so if you had an item with twice as many stats it'd gain twice as many from the same ilvl increase because 200x1.06 is twice as much of a gain as 100x1.06. Now we're talking about 100+9 vs 200+9, those 15 ilvls mean far more to the first item than to the second.

That 100 stat item is getting 1.5x more than it would in Legion but the 200 stat item is getting 1.33x less.

It makes secondaries a lot more impactful for gear choices and ilvl upgrades in the lower end of the gear (+9% for 15ilvls instead of +6%) and notably less impactful on the higher end when the scaling matches legion and then slows down further


"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
February 25 2018 11:14 GMT
#7803
On February 24 2018 00:53 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 17:18 Laurens wrote:
don't you just check your app 3 x 5 minutes each day?
I suppose that would qualify as a chore, but I've had worse in MMOs


Logging in and running to the class hall 3x per day on each character is annoying


Well that's why you use the app, no need to visit the class hall ever again.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
February 25 2018 13:52 GMT
#7804
On February 25 2018 20:14 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2018 00:53 Cyro wrote:
On February 23 2018 17:18 Laurens wrote:
don't you just check your app 3 x 5 minutes each day?
I suppose that would qualify as a chore, but I've had worse in MMOs


Logging in and running to the class hall 3x per day on each character is annoying


Well that's why you use the app, no need to visit the class hall ever again.


Running an android emulator solely to do that is still annoying
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 25 2018 14:00 GMT
#7805
I just do it on my phone as i go to bed and after waking up, takes 2 minutes
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
February 25 2018 15:26 GMT
#7806
I find the assumption that everyone has a smartphone and that they want to use it to play your desktop MMO to be insulting in general
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 25 2018 15:35 GMT
#7807
Yeah I dont like using phone interface in general, much too used to PC. If I had to use the phone for that shit, now that would be really annoying.
Off-season = best season
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
February 25 2018 15:36 GMT
#7808
It's just for people at work I guess.
I don't log on WoW between 11 PM and 4 PM the next day, providing an app for such things is great.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-25 22:34:29
February 25 2018 22:33 GMT
#7809
Varimathras is the worst fight I have seen in WoW in a long time. What a joke.

I am so glad we are past that and doing Coven now.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 03:39:22
February 26 2018 03:28 GMT
#7810
On February 26 2018 07:33 Redox wrote:
Varimathras is the worst fight I have seen in WoW in a long time. What a joke.

I am so glad we are past that and doing Coven now.


Why do you say that?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
February 26 2018 08:09 GMT
#7811
I assume he thinks it's too easy?

In that case I have some bad news: Coven is even easier.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 26 2018 09:10 GMT
#7812
Do we know if stuff like Int/Str are going to be back to being base stats that are needed for upgrades. As of now i don't know of any class (the ones i play at least) that don't care for Int/Str/Agility they are all focuses on Crit/Haste etc, i find that terrible design as it just makes Str/Agi/Int useless to put on the item.

The secondary stat changes i think i need to do some more reading up to understand but the way i see that is a bad thing no?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 09:26:57
February 26 2018 09:19 GMT
#7813
On February 26 2018 18:10 Pandemona wrote:
Do we know if stuff like Int/Str are going to be back to being base stats that are needed for upgrades. As of now i don't know of any class (the ones i play at least) that don't care for Int/Str/Agility they are all focuses on Crit/Haste etc, i find that terrible design as it just makes Str/Agi/Int useless to put on the item.

The secondary stat changes i think i need to do some more reading up to understand but the way i see that is a bad thing no?


That's quite normal towards the end of an expansion, secondary weights scale out of control with gear. They've increased by like 2.5 - 3x relative to mainstat since the start of legion for me, that change might be aimed at controlling that (more secondary gain when they're worth less each, less secondary gain when they're worth more each) but it's really hard to say how it will play out without a closer look at the numbers.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 26 2018 09:28 GMT
#7814
Hmmm, ok. Hope that is good and it sounds "good", just hope bis stats start with Int being best for mage, Strength for warriors etc etc. Just think it silly when your best item is one that has 100 crit more as a mage rather than has 200 int more etc
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 26 2018 12:55 GMT
#7815
On February 26 2018 17:09 Laurens wrote:
I assume he thinks it's too easy?

In that case I have some bad news: Coven is even easier.

It is not the difficulty per se. It is that there is only one thing to do, run a very specific pattern one time. That is the only mechanic you have to do. And if you do that one thing slightly wrong it is a wipe. It is the lamest thing I have ever seen.

In contrast Coven is a real boss fight with many different mechanics and is much more organic.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 14:18:21
February 26 2018 14:15 GMT
#7816
If everyone spent the time that they needed to understand that one thing before pulling you could kill the boss within 10 pulls instead of 50-100

In a way i like to see a boss like that which is objectively easy but straight up impossible if people don't know how to play, it made it very obvious which people were not researching bosses properly if at all. Unfortunately when that's the majority of an above average mythic guild it doesn't play out in a particularly fun way.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 14:32:59
February 26 2018 14:32 GMT
#7817
In my view fewer pulls would not make the boss better in any way, you just would be occupied with a bad boss for less time.
Off-season = best season
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 14:55:37
February 26 2018 14:50 GMT
#7818
Nah its not about research. Not on a boss with a single ability anyway. This is about people being greedy dps tunnelers and on every boss that has a raidwipe when 1 fucks up it leads to countless wipes because everyone of your greedy fucks has to do the mistake once. Especially your retarded mongo mages and warlocks and moonkins. This is a boss where you have to cancel your castbar and fucking move with the tank A S A P, not when YOUR cast finishes. Unfortunately every single dps has to go through the "i finished my 5second channel hardcast pyro/fullmoon before i decided to move" and thus we missed the timing by .2seconds and spread the aids to the group. On the next pull they will hopefully not do the same mistake and move on time. The problem is that now someone else got the ability first and does the mistake, because they think they are special and for them it will work out but it doesnt. And then you have people who just dont learn but you have to keep them in the raidgroup so its down to getting that one try where they just dont get targetted by the ability. AND THEN theres the "my class is bad at swapping to priority target so i didnt do it" people...
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 14:56:39
February 26 2018 14:56 GMT
#7819
AND THEN theres the "my class is bad at swapping to priority target so i didnt do it" people...


That's the only wipes we have atm. Walking with necrotic is fine but we have 3 Affliction Warlocks doing <1% add dmg each pull, putting some strain on the other DPS.

As for coven being more interesting, I'm the designated Asara tank so I literally just stand there taunting and DPSing, give me Vari any day
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 15:26:47
February 26 2018 15:26 GMT
#7820
Nah its not about research


Knowing when you should tunnel and when you can't is a huge part of fight research

we had like a whole raid day of trying to explain that one mechanic to people before getting to the stage that you're talking about as well
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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