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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 18:50:27
January 06 2018 18:49 GMT
#7481
On January 06 2018 23:43 Warri wrote:
Man people go from lvl 100 to 110 and 950 equipped in a day when they have a guild that doesnt mind carrying a new alt. This whole i cant get invited to raids and cant get gear because i started late is a bullshit excuse borderlining on just being a troll. And people care about experience, you have 0.
Buy 2 craftable items that go up to 935, kill worldbosses, farm some invasions and get 910 items from the vendor. Then, especially if youre a healer, just start your own group to play your m+ key until you have like all slots 940. Including legendaries and the occasional titanforge you will have 945 and can join heroic antorus runs, though it can be hard without the curve achievement at this time but they dont check healers too often. This can all be done within 1 or 2 weeks. If you cba to do that, dont expect random people to carry you through content.


Yeah the number of expansions or even tiers off is somewhat irrelevant. I skipped for 6 months after being pretty much as stacked as you can get with NH gear and the game was jus tthorwing ilevel at me from all angles from WQ and M+

On January 07 2018 01:27 Cyro wrote:
Can only collect essences if you have the quest, can only take the quest if you have legendaries to upgrade

so chars that didn't upgrade all of their stuff yet can get 3 legendaries on patch day while people that did can't get any atm


There is no cap on how many you can buy on patch day? Thats awesome. I had so many trash leggos I never bothered to upgrade but I kept gathering essences anyway/
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
January 06 2018 19:24 GMT
#7482
On January 07 2018 01:24 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 09:27 Glacierz wrote:
I was told I should cast it on CD when battlecry is on to maximize the number of casts during the dmg buff, but I don't think that applies to me as much because my haste is way too low to squeeze in more. I will try to wait for 100 rage next time and see if there's any difference.

If you are running frothing you should always ensure you get to 100 rage before doing anything otherwise talent something else. In the final phase i.e execute you should ideally cap rage then execute/bloodthirst/execute/bloodthirst this will usually let you stay at 100 rage the entire time to maintain frothing.

4-5 seconds before battle cry comes off cooldown mash execute until youre at the lowest rage possible before battle cry and then bloodthirst and execute spam.

Most cases at 27-30% haste you will gain 1 more global during the battle cry window having not played in a while atleast since night hold its usually enough for a furious slash or whirlwind since most of the time raging blow/bloodthirst will be on cd. you can maybe clip an extra rampage but you most likely wont get crits unless its off the first 1-3 hits, though this varies with luck of course latency at that.

This is very helpful. With the massacre ring but no valarjar berserkers, I'm not sure if I can properly maintain 100 rage during execute phase. Don't I need to cast execute more frequently to maximize the number of rampage casts?
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 19:43:55
January 06 2018 19:38 GMT
#7483
bloodthirst is your enrage mech during execute

since you have ring you only rampage when u crit
High Risk Low Reward
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 07 2018 18:02 GMT
#7484
On January 07 2018 04:24 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2018 01:24 arb wrote:
On January 06 2018 09:27 Glacierz wrote:
I was told I should cast it on CD when battlecry is on to maximize the number of casts during the dmg buff, but I don't think that applies to me as much because my haste is way too low to squeeze in more. I will try to wait for 100 rage next time and see if there's any difference.

If you are running frothing you should always ensure you get to 100 rage before doing anything otherwise talent something else. In the final phase i.e execute you should ideally cap rage then execute/bloodthirst/execute/bloodthirst this will usually let you stay at 100 rage the entire time to maintain frothing.

4-5 seconds before battle cry comes off cooldown mash execute until youre at the lowest rage possible before battle cry and then bloodthirst and execute spam.

Most cases at 27-30% haste you will gain 1 more global during the battle cry window having not played in a while atleast since night hold its usually enough for a furious slash or whirlwind since most of the time raging blow/bloodthirst will be on cd. you can maybe clip an extra rampage but you most likely wont get crits unless its off the first 1-3 hits, though this varies with luck of course latency at that.

This is very helpful. With the massacre ring but no valarjar berserkers, I'm not sure if I can properly maintain 100 rage during execute phase. Don't I need to cast execute more frequently to maximize the number of rampage casts?

you need to execute bloodthirst execute, you can prolly slip raging blow in too but always make sure youre bouncing between 75? i think execute is 25 rage i havent played in a while and 100 at all times.

and yes like said above only rampage with crits, execute will far out damage anything else you could possibly use once you start building stacks. and just before battle cry comes off cooldown execute to as low of rage as possible before using it, then use it as soon as it comes off cd, then continue normal execute bloodthirst raging blow execute rotation.

most important part is unless absolutely needed do not ever lose your stacks of juggernaut
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
January 08 2018 15:05 GMT
#7485
Got it, thanks!
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
January 09 2018 13:06 GMT
#7486
On January 06 2018 23:25 Qikz wrote:
Item level was by far the worst thing they officially put in the game.

I was a top teir raider for 4 years in one of the best Alliance guilds (imo, we were second to Inner Sanctum on Silvermoon at least) in Europe Nevermore and I did a damn good job healing with them. The guild folded, I took a break and ever since I can't get in any groups for anything because I missed (3 expansions now) worth of initial gearing phase. I can't even get into random normal runs for anything because my ilvl isn't high enough. It's so stupid, people don't care about experience they care about an arbitrary number.

LFR is awful, I don't even know if it's a thing in Legion but it destroyed my soul doing it in WoD. Every LFR I was top healing by miles and it was boring as hell. I just don't have the time to raid properly anymore in a guild


ilvl was completely inevitable though. I'd rather ilvl than gearscore.

even before ilvl people still looked where you got your gear from, and before that they cared how many purples you had vs your blues
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 09 2018 14:45 GMT
#7487
People are always going to look for a shortcut because it really sucks to get started on a run, especially a M+ run, and find out someone is awful. ILvl and other metrics are bad filters, but they’re better than no filter at all.

The only real alternative is to ask for logs, and that’s a huge ask for most of the player base.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-10 20:25:21
January 10 2018 20:16 GMT
#7488
Ok maybe I'm just dumb but maintaining 100 rage during execute phase seems to give up a lot of dmg since it requires me to cast both bloodthirst and raging blow to go from 75 to 100. The other fury warrior in my raid just does execute->execute->rampage and way out-DPSed me in this phase. Is it only because of the Valarjar Berserkers? He didn't really bother maintaining 100 rage in this phase.

Log Here, sorry it's in Chinese, not my upload.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 06:00:38
January 11 2018 05:57 GMT
#7489
On January 11 2018 05:16 Glacierz wrote:
Ok maybe I'm just dumb but maintaining 100 rage during execute phase seems to give up a lot of dmg since it requires me to cast both bloodthirst and raging blow to go from 75 to 100. The other fury warrior in my raid just does execute->execute->rampage and way out-DPSed me in this phase. Is it only because of the Valarjar Berserkers? He didn't really bother maintaining 100 rage in this phase.

Log Here, sorry it's in Chinese, not my upload.

Even with 5 hits critting off rampage he will still only generate 30? rage. I don't contemplate how he is going from 100 -> 75 -> 50 then casting rampage when rampage is 85?(cant remember been a long time)

Juggling frothing with bloodthirst execute is how you should do it. Outside of Massacre procs(i.e the ring?) you should not be using rampage at all during the execute phase. 500k hit vs execute hitting for well over 1mil is a no brainer.

unless something has quickly changed since i played last

unless he isnt taking frothing berserker and is instead using massacre/carnage there is no reason not to juggle 100 rage constantly
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 17:01:38
January 11 2018 17:00 GMT
#7490
According to the log, he has frothing talented, but does not maintain 100 rage in the execute phase. He has the massacre ring so all the rampage casts are free off crits. I think with Fury dual wield the crit chance is over 60%, so you pretty much always get a free rampage within 2 executes.

With the new T21 set, Fury warrior talents bloodbath instead of inner rage. This guide mentions the following:
Juggling Frothing Berserker during Execute
Does not work with Bloodbath.

Not quite sure what that means, but this is essentially telling me that I shouldn't be maintaining frothing during execute phase I think.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 13 2018 00:53 GMT
#7491
Correct. Juggling Frothing Berserker was the norm last tier because everyone was running Inner Rage and Ce-Ann Charger + Valarjar Berserkers. Without Massacre there's little value in spamming Execute since you'll just end up doing the same thing a juggler does, only at low rage and without proccing Frothing Berserker.

But Bloodbath+T21 uses Massacre via Soul of the Battlelord, so the only time you should be hitting buttons other than Execute and Rampage is when you absolutely have to.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
January 13 2018 07:05 GMT
#7492
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/21363148/world-of-warcraft-esports-2018-plans-revealed

Exciting news!

Although I wonder how they're gonna do all this with an expansion that I'd have to imagine would drop in the middle of everything.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 23:46:23
January 15 2018 23:44 GMT
#7493
7.3.5 coming this week too! ~ They did fix the essence thing :D

My guild just got Kin'garoth M


nice fight, feels actually well tuned
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-17 09:21:17
January 17 2018 03:42 GMT
#7494
Gamebreaking issues went live with 7.3.5

[image loading]

Throughput broken via bugs on at least 3 specs

middle of US raid time and some guys are abusing them for mythic raid progress while others are just along for the ride and performing far higher than they should because their stats are wrong







they also changed the planned system to give +4 bag slots for authenticators to only work if you also have SMS protect enabled as well, that's more troublesome and weakens overall account security.

I wonder how blizzard will handle this stuff, achievement and loot revert? fix the bugs and pretend that nothing happened?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-17 11:12:39
January 17 2018 11:12 GMT
#7495
Add to bugs above, BRH M+ unable to be done since it just keeps putting you back to keystone start whenever you run away from entrance.

And in Upper kara you can get the ship debuff that does like 600k damage per second without timing out at random flying to first ship. Every pull we had 2 people get this and its just unhealable to expect a healer to pull 1.2M hps on top of the already higher hps of a tyrannical boss.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
January 17 2018 15:21 GMT
#7496
On January 17 2018 20:12 Alventenie wrote:
Add to bugs above, BRH M+ unable to be done since it just keeps putting you back to keystone start whenever you run away from entrance.

And in Upper kara you can get the ship debuff that does like 600k damage per second without timing out at random flying to first ship. Every pull we had 2 people get this and its just unhealable to expect a healer to pull 1.2M hps on top of the already higher hps of a tyrannical boss.


I was running a daily heroic and it seems like they pot COS in the pool. The legion spy froze on the steps.. forever.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
January 17 2018 15:54 GMT
#7497
Some raid bosses are screwy as well (portal keeper beam just repeated in the same place 10 times in a row)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
January 17 2018 16:20 GMT
#7498
On January 18 2018 00:54 Cyro wrote:
Some raid bosses are screwy as well (portal keeper beam just repeated in the same place 10 times in a row)


Yeah I just skipped playing at all on all of the reset day stuff (which atm is like 70 percent of my playtime in the week). Ill just do it on the weekend.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
January 17 2018 18:56 GMT
#7499
I think I'm starting to get the hang of the Fury spec. I still forget to cast rampage before BC, and I'm not syncing my potions with bloodlust phases (Is there a simple addon that alerts you when bloodlust is cast on the raid? Sometimes I fail to notice it for a few seconds).

This is my latest log on the last boss,
1.36m dps with ilvl944 gear.


I simmed over 1.8m dps on raidbots.com, but I haven't broken 1.5m on any of the bosses yet. Is the simmed DPS unrealistically high or do I still have problems with the rotation?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
January 17 2018 19:52 GMT
#7500
FPS on Garothi
[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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