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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 04 2018 07:56 GMT
#7461
I only do random 15-16s. So I am used to this kind of groups, though they are not all that bad.
From this week on it should have become worse because of all the free item lvl from Antorus and also free score from last week's affixes.
Off-season = best season
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
January 05 2018 19:23 GMT
#7462
Dumb question:
When I look at my stats, I see a % and the actual value. What is the % a percentage of? I see people talking about breakpoints of say, 27% haste, what does that mean exactly?
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 19:48:03
January 05 2018 19:45 GMT
#7463
You have 1,5s global cooldown, as well as (some) spells that have a haste affected cooldown. You can think as having 100% baseline haste which arent shown. With 27% haste your global cooldown and spells recharge 27% faster and you cast 27% faster. Global cooldown is hardcapped at 0.75s which you can reach with 100% haste on gear, but spell reduction isnt capped.

How much % you get depends on your level, but at maxlevel, 1% haste is 375 rating on gear, 1% crit and mastery is 400, 1% versatility is 475.

Breakpoints mean when you reach a point where the stat loses value. For example: Ret paladins have a spell that buffs all other spells. At exactly 32% haste its cooldown is exactly as short as its uptime, so at this point every time the buff drops you can reapply it and thus every other spell you do will always get buffed. This is a breakpoint, from 32% onwards haste loses value.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 19:54:48
January 05 2018 19:50 GMT
#7464
Ah I see. I am almost 10% below the breakpoint target on Haste, that probably explains why my DPS sucks as Fury Warrior... Probably missing a full cast of rampage or something during Battlecry window.

It's kinda sad to see ppl who started at the same time as me as Tank/Healer switch to their DPS setup and does 30% more dmg than me... Don't really get how they optimized their gear with much less time spent.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 05 2018 20:31 GMT
#7465
On January 06 2018 04:50 Glacierz wrote:
Ah I see. I am almost 10% below the breakpoint target on Haste, that probably explains why my DPS sucks as Fury Warrior... Probably missing a full cast of rampage or something during Battlecry window.

It's kinda sad to see ppl who started at the same time as me as Tank/Healer switch to their DPS setup and does 30% more dmg than me... Don't really get how they optimized their gear with much less time spent.

Tbh I dont think that is just your gear setup. You probably dont play in the optimal way. Cant help you with your specific class but maybe could have a look at guides, for example icy veins.

Also if you could link a log (from warcraftlogs.com) of one of your raids I am sure someone here with knowledge of your class could give you some pointers.
Off-season = best season
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
January 05 2018 22:36 GMT
#7466
The raid mount from M Argus looks so bad. Sort of kills my desire to farm it. The annihilator/ironjugg/invincible were way cooler. They couldve given KJ a mini space ship mount too or something. Disappointed.
High Risk Low Reward
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
January 05 2018 22:50 GMT
#7467
On January 06 2018 05:31 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 04:50 Glacierz wrote:
Ah I see. I am almost 10% below the breakpoint target on Haste, that probably explains why my DPS sucks as Fury Warrior... Probably missing a full cast of rampage or something during Battlecry window.

It's kinda sad to see ppl who started at the same time as me as Tank/Healer switch to their DPS setup and does 30% more dmg than me... Don't really get how they optimized their gear with much less time spent.

Tbh I dont think that is just your gear setup. You probably dont play in the optimal way. Cant help you with your specific class but maybe could have a look at guides, for example icy veins.

Also if you could link a log (from warcraftlogs.com) of one of your raids I am sure someone here with knowledge of your class could give you some pointers.

Here's a recent log with the Fury spec:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7xMZGhVt8kq1PHcQ#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=9

Appreciate any tips.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
January 05 2018 23:20 GMT
#7468
On January 06 2018 07:50 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 05:31 Redox wrote:
On January 06 2018 04:50 Glacierz wrote:
Ah I see. I am almost 10% below the breakpoint target on Haste, that probably explains why my DPS sucks as Fury Warrior... Probably missing a full cast of rampage or something during Battlecry window.

It's kinda sad to see ppl who started at the same time as me as Tank/Healer switch to their DPS setup and does 30% more dmg than me... Don't really get how they optimized their gear with much less time spent.

Tbh I dont think that is just your gear setup. You probably dont play in the optimal way. Cant help you with your specific class but maybe could have a look at guides, for example icy veins.

Also if you could link a log (from warcraftlogs.com) of one of your raids I am sure someone here with knowledge of your class could give you some pointers.

Here's a recent log with the Fury spec:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7xMZGhVt8kq1PHcQ#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=9

Appreciate any tips.


You are casting rampage without frothing berserker

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7xMZGhVt8kq1PHcQ#fight=8&type=resources&source=9&spell=101

Should increase your dps by a bit
High Risk Low Reward
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
January 06 2018 00:27 GMT
#7469
I was told I should cast it on CD when battlecry is on to maximize the number of casts during the dmg buff, but I don't think that applies to me as much because my haste is way too low to squeeze in more. I will try to wait for 100 rage next time and see if there's any difference.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 06 2018 01:07 GMT
#7470
Only quickly compared you to the other fury there and he has so many more casts than you. The difference in haste between you two is huge. I guess you lacking haste is a big part of the problem. Also leads to lower Enrage uptime. Although on that try you were apparently also very unlucky on the Bloodthirst crits. :D
Off-season = best season
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 06 2018 05:00 GMT
#7471
You dropped Juggernaut stacks near the end and also didn't get a fourth Avatar off during the very critical Execute phase. One thing you can do is cast Avatar when Battlecry has a good 10-15 seconds left on the CD, because at that point it'll catch the back half of the buff and you'll be more likely to have it up when you need it.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 13:42:01
January 06 2018 13:22 GMT
#7472
They added some info before changes here

https://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1080910-assassination-and-balance-changes-on-tuesday/

They also added a new token that you can buy for 175 essences which creates a legendary on the PTR! Faster legendary rate, maybe a bit expensive and i still find that resource annoying since it has lockouts and some rules to be able to collect (if the quest wasn't in your log for a raidclear then too bad, you got zero and can't get any from raid until next week)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
January 06 2018 14:25 GMT
#7473
Item level was by far the worst thing they officially put in the game.

I was a top teir raider for 4 years in one of the best Alliance guilds (imo, we were second to Inner Sanctum on Silvermoon at least) in Europe Nevermore and I did a damn good job healing with them. The guild folded, I took a break and ever since I can't get in any groups for anything because I missed (3 expansions now) worth of initial gearing phase. I can't even get into random normal runs for anything because my ilvl isn't high enough. It's so stupid, people don't care about experience they care about an arbitrary number.

LFR is awful, I don't even know if it's a thing in Legion but it destroyed my soul doing it in WoD. Every LFR I was top healing by miles and it was boring as hell. I just don't have the time to raid properly anymore in a guild
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 14:43:31
January 06 2018 14:33 GMT
#7474
Is it really that hard to go from ilvl associated with doing all the single player content to doing heroic raids and the like? You can't jump straight from one to the other, and you do need to put up with some BS if you aren't being carried by a guild, but I'm pretty sure with a little bit of patience you can continue to increase your ilvl playing with random people in increasingly difficult modes. The problem is really skilled players are not flexible about the fact that random folks are not going to give them credit for the extent to which they perform better than average others of the same gear level. Even if you are of average ability starting from way behind you can still work your way up to heroic raiding if you are interested. That doesn't mean the system is ideal in any way though.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
January 06 2018 14:43 GMT
#7475
Man people go from lvl 100 to 110 and 950 equipped in a day when they have a guild that doesnt mind carrying a new alt. This whole i cant get invited to raids and cant get gear because i started late is a bullshit excuse borderlining on just being a troll. And people care about experience, you have 0.
Buy 2 craftable items that go up to 935, kill worldbosses, farm some invasions and get 910 items from the vendor. Then, especially if youre a healer, just start your own group to play your m+ key until you have like all slots 940. Including legendaries and the occasional titanforge you will have 945 and can join heroic antorus runs, though it can be hard without the curve achievement at this time but they dont check healers too often. This can all be done within 1 or 2 weeks. If you cba to do that, dont expect random people to carry you through content.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
January 06 2018 16:15 GMT
#7476
m+ score is the new gearscore btw haha. Dont judge people by their m+ score its such a flawed system. I cant get into a group because my m+ score is too low but im a good player triplepinky swear.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 06 2018 16:24 GMT
#7477
On January 06 2018 09:27 Glacierz wrote:
I was told I should cast it on CD when battlecry is on to maximize the number of casts during the dmg buff, but I don't think that applies to me as much because my haste is way too low to squeeze in more. I will try to wait for 100 rage next time and see if there's any difference.

If you are running frothing you should always ensure you get to 100 rage before doing anything otherwise talent something else. In the final phase i.e execute you should ideally cap rage then execute/bloodthirst/execute/bloodthirst this will usually let you stay at 100 rage the entire time to maintain frothing.

4-5 seconds before battle cry comes off cooldown mash execute until youre at the lowest rage possible before battle cry and then bloodthirst and execute spam.

Most cases at 27-30% haste you will gain 1 more global during the battle cry window having not played in a while atleast since night hold its usually enough for a furious slash or whirlwind since most of the time raging blow/bloodthirst will be on cd. you can maybe clip an extra rampage but you most likely wont get crits unless its off the first 1-3 hits, though this varies with luck of course latency at that.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
January 06 2018 16:27 GMT
#7478
Can only collect essences if you have the quest, can only take the quest if you have legendaries to upgrade

so chars that didn't upgrade all of their stuff yet can get 3 legendaries on patch day while people that did can't get any atm
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22085 Posts
January 06 2018 17:02 GMT
#7479
On January 07 2018 01:27 Cyro wrote:
Can only collect essences if you have the quest, can only take the quest if you have legendaries to upgrade

so chars that didn't upgrade all of their stuff yet can get 3 legendaries on patch day while people that did can't get any atm

Yeah, thats pretty shit
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 17:33:35
January 06 2018 17:33 GMT
#7480
Kinda waiting for them to clean up this currency for 3 tiers and it's still not doing great due to unnecessary rules, it doesn't have to be a quest item
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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