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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
December 30 2017 16:42 GMT
#7441
So for Fury warrior there's an important trinket called Convergence of Fate that only drops from Nighthold Raid, which no one plays anymore. Is there any way to farm it?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 30 2017 17:16 GMT
#7442
The argunite vendor is a way to get it as well, but there should be a way to find groups in group finder zerg running them
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
December 30 2017 17:41 GMT
#7443
A lot of people still do nighthold for legendary farm etc, there are always some runs up early in the reset week

the main effect is also the same on both normal and titanforged mythic versions so the ilvl of the trinket doesn't matter as much as other trinkets
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 31 2017 09:00 GMT
#7444
cyro, does the current memebeam build run blade fury in dungeons?

mine's helm/sephuz with unleashed power instead of demon reborn
ffxiv enjoyer
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-31 09:45:19
December 31 2017 09:28 GMT
#7445
That's a terrible name

[image loading]

You can make up a bit of that by redistributing stats from mastery to haste but it'll still be behind on both st and low-high target count aoe and without that talent there's no window to press blade dance, it's just on the bar to use the 100% dodge for 1 second on the boss mechanics that can be evaded by it

unleashed power and sephuz have been top tier in dungeons for a while, still are - you just need to hotswap between AOTHG and Sephuz for bosses that you can't interrupt to get a good benefit over using AOTHG all the time. Extra ranks in stun soul and eyebeam damage are both high tier on trash/overall too
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 31 2017 10:40 GMT
#7446
so instead of the 2+2 set with FB I could be running t21 2 set + ilevel pieces with 331?

I do hotswap between AOTHG/Sephuz - bless oPie - just wondering if I should add EoC to the AOTHG set or stick with the fang

I don't sim my DH often, it's really annoying when T20 is the ST build and I only have 2 pieces of T21



ffxiv enjoyer
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-31 11:28:14
December 31 2017 11:10 GMT
#7447
should def run 2p21 for dungeons in general and some raid fights but as soon as you have 4p at similar ilvl to old tier it's gone on st as well, pretty easy when antorus raid finder is equal to tomb heroic in ilvl
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
January 02 2018 19:27 GMT
#7448
How much harder is Heroic difficulty in Raids? I've gone through the full burning throne run on Normal a few times now, dying 1-2 times with about 1-1.25m DPS, will I be a big drag for the guild on H?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-02 19:31:21
January 02 2018 19:29 GMT
#7449
Median DPS for people that can kill the first boss heroic is around 1400k

there are some extra mechanics and it's a lot more important to know the bosses to perform well there
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22482 Posts
January 02 2018 19:53 GMT
#7450
If you know how to do mechanics and can put out average parses you will never be a drag on your guild.

Heroic adds some more mechanics and is less forgiving in mistakes. The best advise I can give is to simply give it a try.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 12:56:37
January 03 2018 12:56 GMT
#7451
I think they should really get rid of top 100 leaderboard for m+ ASAP

like either make it unlimited / top 1000 or remove entirely

every week the community is shifting more towards scores from external sites (wowprogress and now raider.io taking over) when the systems that they must use for measuring performance are deeply flawed at best because of how limited the API is. It also forces people go to make accounts on those external services to display scores across characters, i don't like that at all.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 03 2018 14:34 GMT
#7452
I dont think this is relevant for anything ingame though so its whatever imo.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22482 Posts
January 03 2018 14:38 GMT
#7453
On January 03 2018 23:34 Redox wrote:
I dont think this is relevant for anything ingame though so its whatever imo.

It matters for people trying to get into M+ groups which often use the WoWProgress and Raider.io rankings to select players.

But since people so often like to complain about WoW's lack of community I will simply say "Go find a community to play M+ with".
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 14:44:59
January 03 2018 14:43 GMT
#7454
On January 03 2018 23:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2018 23:34 Redox wrote:
I dont think this is relevant for anything ingame though so its whatever imo.

It matters for people trying to get into M+ groups which often use the WoWProgress and Raider.io rankings to select players.

But since people so often like to complain about WoW's lack of community I will simply say "Go find a community to play M+ with".


Damn, beat me to it..
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 03 2018 15:11 GMT
#7455
Yeah getting in pugs for Mythic plus right now is pretty hard unless you have 960ilvl plus or you have a 3500 mythic plus score which was impossible to get last week if you are on a server with the good mythic plus players as they were all farming plus 26/27 keys lol.

Anyway for me i just make my own pugs, do my 15 keys every week then focus on other content i can control like pugging raids and what not. Mythic plus is only good imo if you have 5 friends to play it with or are in a guild, other wise it is just to annoying.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 19:14:20
January 03 2018 16:55 GMT
#7456
I got ridiculous ilvl and high score, it's still broken system
[image loading]

Why should the game incentivize people so strongly to group only with players from certain servers and at certain times of the week? arbitrary, unfun, unintentional rules. Why should people have to make accounts for or link bnet to third party services for ingame matchmaking to work properly across characters?

A blizzard-designed system could do it so much better and in the mean time a broken system is worse in some ways than no system at all, people come to overwhelmingly rely on it and no alternative can thrive
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 22:54:46
January 03 2018 22:49 GMT
#7457
I'm confused, you want people to take you to M+ groups on one character based on your performances, i level and such on other characters?

Im also still confused about what the issue with the 100 leaderboard is aswell ? What purpose does removing it help? I thought people were using these external sites from the start. Im not being facetious I really dont know. I am super casual atm but im still in my old guild so I have no problems just doing the 1 15 I need everyweek with a group from there. I rarely pug anymore. Too time consuming when I can just get carried through smashing stuff xD.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22482 Posts
January 03 2018 23:00 GMT
#7458
On January 04 2018 07:49 Rebs wrote:
I'm confused, you want people to take you to M+ groups on one character based on your performances, i level and such on other characters?

Im also still confused about what the issue with the 100 leaderboard is aswell ? What purpose does removing it help? I thought people were using these external sites from the start. Im not being facetious I really dont know. I am super casual atm but im still in my old guild so I have no problems just doing the 1 15 I need everyweek with a group from there. I rarely pug anymore. Too time consuming when I can just get carried through smashing stuff xD.

There is no real global M+ list or anything. So the external sites get their data from the top 100 server leaderboard. If you do a bunch of M+ but never get on the leaderboard your data is not collected.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 23:51:24
January 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#7459
I'm confused, you want people to take you to M+ groups on one character based on your performances, i level and such on other characters?

Im also still confused about what the issue with the 100 leaderboard is aswell ? What purpose does removing it help? I thought people were using these external sites from the start. Im not being facetious I really dont know.


They're both kinda linked together

The only way to have any score register on an external site - at all - is to make the top 100 leaderboard because that's the only way that the external sites can read the runs that people have done, checking every X amount of time what it says on the leaderboards. By halfway through last week that required doing level 20-23 on my server depending on the dungeon so it's not something that will ever be relevant for alts unless they're near the performance level of your mains, you could run 19+3 on every dungeon and the site would say that you've never done a mythic+ before.

You can bypass these limits by grouping with people on dead servers which have weak leaderboards and by playing very early in the week before people have done a significant amount of dungeons but that's annoying at best to do on mains, way more so on alts and doesn't make any sense from a gameplay perspective.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-04 01:56:25
January 04 2018 01:55 GMT
#7460
Well duh ofc blizzard could make it better. They dont even need to make the whole leaderboards ingame, just expose more of the dungeon data so 3rd party sites could query all runs of your character. Armory already has all kinds of unnecessary shit like all my mounts and pets anyway, why cant it have m+ runs.
But i disagree that is worse than nothing. Ilvl just doesnt say anything at all, basically every pug m~15 i do for gear without checking for m+score im #1 in damage by far..as tank. Shit is not fun to play. 99% of players are just complete garbage.
[image loading] This is a depleto arcway 16. people dying to eveery boss ability as soon as its tyrannical. Had to solo general from 20% onwards. Wiped multiple times cause healer cant keep up with bursting. People dying to slicers.
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