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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
December 01 2017 12:32 GMT
#7261
Played vanilla since the first set of new servers came to EU.

If you enjoy it then by all means enjoy it.
Personally I consider present WoW a massive improvement and as such have little to no interest in Classic.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 01 2017 15:19 GMT
#7262
Not really worth starting to play vanilla on private server now when it comes on blizz servers soon. Although I will not play it there either, too time consuming and too much grinding. Bosses will not be a challenge at all.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
December 01 2017 15:27 GMT
#7263
On December 02 2017 00:19 Redox wrote:
Not really worth starting to play vanilla on private server now when it comes on blizz servers soon. Although I will not play it there either, too time consuming and too much grinding. Bosses will not be a challenge at all.

soon(tm). They haven't started working on it yet.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 01 2017 16:45 GMT
#7264
On November 30 2017 05:22 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2017 04:10 lestye wrote:
On November 30 2017 03:22 Redox wrote:
Heard Antorus hc is undertuned, can anyone confirm?

I've heard the same thing, its undertuned in comparison to KJ HC.


every heroic boss ever is undertuned in comparison to launch KJ HC


My God HC Aggramar is the most LOL thing I have ever seen.

What is that even.....
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
December 01 2017 18:34 GMT
#7265
I played on Kronos. I didn't get very far, the first 15 levels is so fucking boring, it just drains all the hype I had.

I'll play on Classic servers when they come out.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
December 01 2017 21:18 GMT
#7266
On December 02 2017 01:45 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2017 05:22 Cyro wrote:
On November 30 2017 04:10 lestye wrote:
On November 30 2017 03:22 Redox wrote:
Heard Antorus hc is undertuned, can anyone confirm?

I've heard the same thing, its undertuned in comparison to KJ HC.


every heroic boss ever is undertuned in comparison to launch KJ HC


My God HC Aggramar is the most LOL thing I have ever seen.

What is that even.....


How so?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 21:54:09
December 01 2017 21:52 GMT
#7267
On December 02 2017 06:18 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 01:45 Rebs wrote:
On November 30 2017 05:22 Cyro wrote:
On November 30 2017 04:10 lestye wrote:
On November 30 2017 03:22 Redox wrote:
Heard Antorus hc is undertuned, can anyone confirm?

I've heard the same thing, its undertuned in comparison to KJ HC.


every heroic boss ever is undertuned in comparison to launch KJ HC


My God HC Aggramar is the most LOL thing I have ever seen.

What is that even.....


How so?


If you pass the mass Agalon's phase (which is not particularly taxing as it is) its basically just a kill.

Die ? Np just go hug tree. Granted most of my grp was overgeared and I was just enjoying the carry after coming back after 6 months but still. You can basically fuck up as much as you want as long as you get into the last phase.

Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
December 01 2017 21:54 GMT
#7268
On December 02 2017 06:52 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 06:18 Cyro wrote:
On December 02 2017 01:45 Rebs wrote:
On November 30 2017 05:22 Cyro wrote:
On November 30 2017 04:10 lestye wrote:
On November 30 2017 03:22 Redox wrote:
Heard Antorus hc is undertuned, can anyone confirm?

I've heard the same thing, its undertuned in comparison to KJ HC.


every heroic boss ever is undertuned in comparison to launch KJ HC


My God HC Aggramar is the most LOL thing I have ever seen.

What is that even.....


How so?


If you pass the baby Agalon phase (which is not particularly taxing as it is) its basically just a kill. Die ? Np just go hug tree. Granted most of my grp was overgeared and I was just enjoying the carry after coming back after 6 months but still.


Thats Argus, not Aggramar, which is the second to last boss.
Hence probably Cyro's confusion.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 01 2017 21:59 GMT
#7269
On December 02 2017 06:54 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 06:52 Rebs wrote:
On December 02 2017 06:18 Cyro wrote:
On December 02 2017 01:45 Rebs wrote:
On November 30 2017 05:22 Cyro wrote:
On November 30 2017 04:10 lestye wrote:
On November 30 2017 03:22 Redox wrote:
Heard Antorus hc is undertuned, can anyone confirm?

I've heard the same thing, its undertuned in comparison to KJ HC.


every heroic boss ever is undertuned in comparison to launch KJ HC


My God HC Aggramar is the most LOL thing I have ever seen.

What is that even.....


How so?


If you pass the baby Agalon phase (which is not particularly taxing as it is) its basically just a kill. Die ? Np just go hug tree. Granted most of my grp was overgeared and I was just enjoying the carry after coming back after 6 months but still.


Thats Argus, not Aggramar, which is the second to last boss.
Hence probably Cyro's confusion.


Oh dear. Yes
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 22:46:09
December 01 2017 22:43 GMT
#7270
There are less kills on heroic Argus than mythic KJ at the moment so i think that almost all of the complaints are not from the target audience.

Coven and Aggramar do seem harder though and there are a few mechanics in some of the normal and heroic fights that may be bugged or poorly tuned - in particular the ones that do a nonfatal amount of damage but hit you 5 times instantly when you touch them, killing you
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 23:08:02
December 01 2017 23:07 GMT
#7271
On December 02 2017 07:43 Cyro wrote:
There are less kills on heroic Argus than mythic KJ at the moment so i think that almost all of the complaints are not from the target audience.

Coven and Aggramar do seem harder though and there are a few mechanics in some of the normal and heroic fights that may be bugged or poorly tuned - in particular the ones that do a nonfatal amount of damage but hit you 5 times instantly when you touch them, killing you


I am sure they arent. I wasnt complaining that its a lol. Makes it easy for me to just tag along with 915 ilevel. I went up 30 I levels in like 2 runs even if none of the items I got are any good.


Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-02 00:05:54
December 02 2017 00:05 GMT
#7272
Fixed a bug that caused Argus the Unmaker to stop casting Soulbomb during the final phase of the encounter.


There we go, makes sense
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 02 2017 02:03 GMT
#7273
Holy shit, those Flirt and Silly voice lines for the new allied race are either super lewd or full of memes.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-02 10:26:56
December 02 2017 03:04 GMT
#7274
My life for Aiur... <cough> Argus. My life for ARGUS!


Hah

damn i can't wait to hear those :D

http://www.wowhead.com/news=277430/jokes-and-flirts-for-allied-races-highmountain-nightborne-void-elves-lightforged

ooh the voices were in the build!



-----------

what are you guys expecting on the balance patch? as far as i can tell wlock/priest are due for nerf at the high end due to the fights like this: (cut out the best performing spec for each class)
[image loading]

and i'm hoping to see havoc t21 4p buffed a little

havoc is performing highly on argus; it seems a lot of that is coming from the add phase. Adds get a debuff which makes them take triple damage from one particular school of magic (nature, fire, arcane etc) but chaos damage just does triple damage to anything so there's an unfair advantage there.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
December 02 2017 06:18 GMT
#7275
On December 02 2017 00:19 Redox wrote:
Not really worth starting to play vanilla on private server now when it comes on blizz servers soon. Although I will not play it there either, too time consuming and too much grinding. Bosses will not be a challenge at all.


Just wondering, have you ever played vanilla?

I'm really interested to know where this idea that vanilla (or even TBC) bosses were too easy or not a challenge. As someone who played both, it's incomparable but i also want to know how other people feel about it

And yeah, i'm really just waiting for classic servers (and have been for a long time), so i'm pretty excited about it haha
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-02 06:33:21
December 02 2017 06:30 GMT
#7276
Stuff has gotten way harder over the years but player skill at the high end and tools to help players have also consistently advanced

my whole guild has a triple digit number of weakauras covering antorus mechanics and tactics
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
December 02 2017 06:33 GMT
#7277
On December 02 2017 15:18 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 00:19 Redox wrote:
Not really worth starting to play vanilla on private server now when it comes on blizz servers soon. Although I will not play it there either, too time consuming and too much grinding. Bosses will not be a challenge at all.


Just wondering, have you ever played vanilla?

I'm really interested to know where this idea that vanilla (or even TBC) bosses were too easy or not a challenge. As someone who played both, it's incomparable but i also want to know how other people feel about it

And yeah, i'm really just waiting for classic servers (and have been for a long time), so i'm pretty excited about it haha

I think that's the overwhelming consensus. Most guilds on private servers plow through all the content before Naxx. Mechanically there was nothing much to those early raids. Keep in mind most of those raids were designed by people who didnt know what they were doing, for players that didnt know what they hell they were doing, players with shit computers and 56k modem connections.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-02 06:36:03
December 02 2017 06:34 GMT
#7278
On December 02 2017 15:18 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 00:19 Redox wrote:
Not really worth starting to play vanilla on private server now when it comes on blizz servers soon. Although I will not play it there either, too time consuming and too much grinding. Bosses will not be a challenge at all.


Just wondering, have you ever played vanilla?

I'm really interested to know where this idea that vanilla (or even TBC) bosses were too easy or not a challenge. As someone who played both, it's incomparable but i also want to know how other people feel about it

And yeah, i'm really just waiting for classic servers (and have been for a long time), so i'm pretty excited about it haha

I mean, it's kind of accepted that vanilla mechanics/fights were much more straightforward save for a few exceptions. The game and playerbase was just very different. Helpful addons, smaller raid groups, easier group finding tools, and generally better game knowledge via online resources and guides has really enhanced the average player over time. Just because the fights were easier doesn't mean raiding was easier lol. It will be interesting to see how content plays out on the classic servers at different levels with how much the playerbase has evolved. I also have plenty of nostalgia for vanilla and will probably dabble.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
December 02 2017 08:00 GMT
#7279
I need to play my warlock. I guarantee I can find groups to carry my ilvl 820 ass if I just put down portals.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
December 02 2017 10:34 GMT
#7280
On December 02 2017 15:18 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 00:19 Redox wrote:
Not really worth starting to play vanilla on private server now when it comes on blizz servers soon. Although I will not play it there either, too time consuming and too much grinding. Bosses will not be a challenge at all.


Just wondering, have you ever played vanilla?

I'm really interested to know where this idea that vanilla (or even TBC) bosses were too easy or not a challenge. As someone who played both, it's incomparable but i also want to know how other people feel about it

And yeah, i'm really just waiting for classic servers (and have been for a long time), so i'm pretty excited about it haha


I raided back then. The people I played with were significantly higher percentile skillwise (well above average at the time) then the people I play with now (pretty average) and yet obviously we kill more shit nowadays. That is completely beside the point. The bosses themselves from back then are significantly easier and will be made even more easy by the fact that the playerbase is much better 12 years later, plus addons, etc. The gigantic, huge, timesinks that made raiding "harder" back then will appeal to some people and not to others. That's totally personal preference. It was absolutely orders of magnitude "harder" to be in a position to raid.

Whether I play classic depends entirely on friends. We all 30 now and have lives. I suspect peoples infatuation with it in my friends group will be short lived.
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