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On August 31 2017 03:11 Cyro wrote: Silvermoon down mid raid for 3 raid nights in a row, seriously wtf have you considered raiding different days? We have no issues on thursday nor tuesday.
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On August 31 2017 03:12 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 03:11 Cyro wrote: Silvermoon down mid raid for 3 raid nights in a row, seriously wtf have you considered raiding different days? We have no issues on thursday nor tuesday.
Even if i could find an EU guild raiding fri, sat and tues i wouldn't want to play in it 
This stuff is happening for so many people and it's getting basically zero attention from blues, forums, news sites etc. I haven't seen server issues (exception for release weeks ofc) this consistently bad since 2006 and back then we had communication from blizzard and refunded game time for the problems
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Well, after 3 weeks of barely being able to raid, tonight we had a 10% try on Mistress Sassz'ine, everyone was getting hype about a potential kill.
..Aaaaand she's getting deep nerfed right before we can get the kill. :/
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/21025532
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There are a few other changes not on the patch/hotfix notes until now or not on them at all. Reports of hotfixes mid-raid on multiple bosses including nerfs, buffs and fixes - mistress owl got HP doubled and then halved again, Avatar got a 5% HP nerf and then was rebuffed again but later had one of the touch of sargaeras soaks removed from mythic.
tonight we had a 10% try on Mistress Sassz'ine
Was likely nerfed before your raid, some of these changes happened as early as tuesday morning. Check the amount of boss HP on logs, 7.38b was pre-nerf
Items and abilities granted by Class Hall research should now work on Argus.
This doesn't sound like much but eyebeam runes here we come!
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I've seen a lot of undocumented changes for 7.3 that probably should have been documented. I have no idea why they aren't listing everything.
Most notable I have heard is Sisters encounter with the owl and the incorporeal shot affecting tanks.
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On August 31 2017 20:11 Alventenie wrote: I've seen a lot of undocumented changes for 7.3 that probably should have been documented. I have no idea why they aren't listing everything.
Most notable I have heard is Sisters encounter with the owl and the incorporeal shot affecting tanks. those was a bug that has since been hotfixed.
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Argus performance aside, has anyone particularly noticed the game running more smoothly since 7.3? Am not sure if this can be attributed to some other things or placebo
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KyfeJsZ.png)
have seen a lot of WoW benches without frame pacing this tight but i'm not sure that the engine couldn't do this before in areas without much happening - don't have pre patch benchmarks of that sort of thing laying around
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I havent noticed a difference, but I also haven't been looking. I will definitely check next time I log in.
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+ Show Spoiler +Damn nice log today in a PUG group! (Erralia) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VrCIGWW.png) What do we say to the cookie cutter talent builds? Not today! #1 log on silvermoon for HC KJ in 7.3^ (#2 going back forever, no DH changes for a few months) - http://i.imgur.com/x5vzqay.png#1 global for ilvl in 7.3 (3 days lol) - http://i.imgur.com/HGJ0Qy2.png
Log stuff~
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I'm not liking the 12 hour duration world quests!
The old world quests were 24h
even at 24h, that's a 24h window from any time throughout the day or night to do them. Back in the old days with daily quests with reset at 8am, you could go and do them at 9am and then come back 45 hours later to do them again (before 2 resets in a row) and miss nothing at all, that window has been cut down a lot - no schedule and much shorter duration.
In particular it feels like we have little to do on Argus for 80% of the day but then these quests can awkwardly pop up and despawn again while i'm unconscious or busy with something else despite playing for many hours every day, doesn't feel good.
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Skinning+LW stuff is weird too, only one craft on the new materials and it requires 36 leather and 5 sargerites
they drop at a rate more like 360 leather to every 5 sargerites so we have thousands of leather left over after any crafting session ;0
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Our officiers going a bit stir crazy over the fact we still haven't killed Mistress. Got her to 5% or so I think so far. Big discussions around players not pulling their weight and going tunnel vision on logs.
Big "second vocal" ( we raid on mumble, we have some raider on discord ) too, which was always a big red flag to me but has been left unanswered for a long time.
Combined with a lot of missed raid night during summer because we neded up being 18-19 a lot despite starting summer with a 27 man roster, things are a bit tough.
Hoping nothing too bad comes of it.
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Sounds like a standard summer of trying to raid to me.
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The answer to logwhores is always to make logs private during progression. Of course they in turn might not show up to the raid, play bad, or just straight up leave the guild. Such is raidlife.
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Yeah 
Big "second vocal" ( we raid on mumble, we have some raider on discord ) too, which was always a big red flag to me but has been left unanswered for a long time.
What do you mean by this? One part of the raid goes mumble and the other discord at the same time?
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I would feel that it means, entire raid is in mumble, but a set of people are in both mumble and discord. So these people might talk extra stuff/whatever and that can drive people apart? I am not sure. Dealt with something similar in vanilla and guild xfered one day and i didn't bother following.
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Also annoying that there was that bind to account 500 rep quest for army of the light, some people with an army of alts jumped 5k-10k rep ahead and got the revered recipies + new blood drop enchant early enough to make a lot of money on it
I don't think that alts should be able to help mains like that
Lotsa good stuff on 7.3 tho, i have positive feelings overall just to be clear :D
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AK42 just came up 2 days early, if we keep getting them at a rate of 1 per 5 days instead of the 1 per 7 written on PTR and 7.3 patch notes then we'll be getting artifact levels ~1.4x faster than we've been planning for ^_^
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On September 04 2017 21:41 Alventenie wrote: I would feel that it means, entire raid is in mumble, but a set of people are in both mumble and discord. So these people might talk extra stuff/whatever and that can drive people apart? I am not sure. Dealt with something similar in vanilla and guild xfered one day and i didn't bother following. Yeah also had that in vanilla. Guild was small so we were in a raid union, raid was on TS while guild/friends where on ventrilo. Of course we would make fun of the others in ventrilo all the time but if you accidentally pressed the wrong button when you bitched about someone it could lead to drama. :D
Honestly it is super bad if you have that kind of split in a guild.
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i'm getting 910/920 gear from +2 weekly chests
TF needs to settle down
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I got a 915 neck today from +2. But I thought it dropped 905 or 910 gear from that chest anyway so thats not that much?
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Greater Invasions points give 930
Ilvl inflation is insane in this patch
Oh btw we finally killed Mistress, so morale is back up I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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They need to feed gear to raiders to let them kill more of ToS before the next raid opens
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