EPTBut I will take my stagger over armor all day ^^.
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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
But I will take my stagger over armor all day ^^. | ||
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Cyro
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22675 Posts
Instead Monks delay 40 or more (usually more) % of dmg taken and turn it into a 10 second dot. This gives them a much smoother damage intake then other tanks but overall higher damage taken. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
We actually if played very well, can and will take less damage than many other tanks. Our stagger turns direct damage and turns it into a 10 seconds dot. Our active mitigation spell is called Ironskin Brew, which gives us +40% stagger intake (so instead of staggering 40% base, we now stagger 80% of the incoming damage) for 6+ seconds (this can be boosted with artifact/relics). So with no talents, on every physical hit I only take 20% up front damage, and the 80% is put into a dot that does damage over 10 seconds. Now this doesn't mitigate any damage but instead just delays all that damage. We have Purifying Brew (which shares charges/cool down with Ironskin Brew) that will remove 50% of our current stagger damage. This allows us to smooth a lot of damage, or take huge spike boss damage and then just remove a huge chunk of that damage instantly. Combine this with a lot of other artifact boosts, we can mitigate a lot of damage. Our breath of fire will reduce damage from mobs taken, black out strike reduces damage taken, our mastery gives us inflated dodge chance to just not get hit at all. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20752296392?page=4#post-73 There is a good post comparing 2 top tank parses in the world. One BrM and one Guardian on M Ursoc. In the highest skill played BrM can turn into unkillable beasts. But we have a downside in that its really easy to play the spec wrong, and as such, you can also play BrM terribly and just take tons of damage. I like how they play, I don't think I would play any other tank after getting used to how BrM plays and how much I enjoy them. | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On December 21 2016 21:43 Gorsameth wrote: y monks have no armor bonus and just leather. I have 2.4k armor on my 860 tank. Instead Monks delay 40 or more (usually more) % of dmg taken and turn it into a 10 second dot. This gives them a much smoother damage intake then other tanks but overall higher damage taken. Yeah there is nothing as pleasant to heal as a monk tank. Especially when you play a healer with few instants. DK and DH on the other hand... | ||
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Cyro
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
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nimbim
Germany986 Posts
On December 21 2016 22:05 farvacola wrote: Playing monk tank in MoP, specifically doing SoO progression, was some of the most fun I've had playing WoW, no doubt. BrM was soo much better to me in MoP. I just have 0 fun playing the new BrM, I get how powerful the active mitigation can be, but the playstyle is not very satisfying compared to clinch guard+expel harm, purify stagger/blackout kick and elusive brew on top of it. | ||
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heartlxp
United States1258 Posts
currently brm have to actually think a little w/ blackout combo | ||
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FortuneSyn
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Resto druid here. | ||
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GTR
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On December 22 2016 10:02 FortuneSyn wrote: Hey guys, is there a TL guild out there in US servers, east coast timezone? Resto druid here. cenarius-alliance, west coast. On December 21 2016 22:05 farvacola wrote: Playing monk tank in MoP, specifically doing SoO progression, was some of the most fun I've had playing WoW, no doubt. are you dead from school or did you quit already  On December 22 2016 10:02 Gorsameth wrote: WoD had serious issues with completely self sufficient tanks. I'm glad they changed it for Legion to ensure that you actually need a healer to do dungeons. some m+ groups have been experimenting 1 tank + 4 dps with fighter chow with a bit of success. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On December 22 2016 10:02 Gorsameth wrote: WoD had serious issues with completely self sufficient tanks. I'm glad they changed it for Legion to ensure that you actually need a healer to do dungeons. I've had a surprising amount of success with 1tank 4dps and 2tank 3dps, just not for level 12-15 dungeons. Have 4-manned 7+3 with a boost guy and no healer, etc. Legion doesn't feel much different to WOD in that regard, IMO. In dungeons for several classes it seems like most tank healing comes from the tank themselves with healers babysitting the avoidable damage taken by DPSers and doing DPS in their spare time. A Prot pally can even cover that role too, i've been in a few situations where a boss would not have been killable if we had a different tank which could not throw some heals on DPSers mid-fight. --------------------- http://i.imgur.com/PuQjXr8.mp4 Well, fuck. People who started research late actually did get 2-3 days ahead of those who started it on launch day because of bugs in the catchup system  | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On December 22 2016 10:35 GTR wrote: cenarius-alliance, west coast. are you dead from school or did you quit already some m+ groups have been experimenting 1 tank + 4 dps with fighter chow with a bit of success. Just finished exams, I'll be back on today or tomorrow to start preparing for next raid release. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
On December 22 2016 15:58 Cyro wrote: http://i.imgur.com/PuQjXr8.mp4 Well, fuck. People who started research late actually did get 2-3 days ahead of those who started it on launch day because of bugs in the catchup system This is disappointing to hear. Amidst even other things that Blizzard seemed to overlook and now another thing people will go on to complain about. At this point I feel like many of the systems they put out no one looked at to make sure it made sense lol. | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
Seems this is just a one case exception rather than a large group of people getting this. edit: Random question for ui savvy people. I am trying to update my ui currently and am having trouble getting something to work. It might just not be something that elv ui can even do, but figured I would ask. I have a good set up for party frames + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/181105417374400513/261537412977655808/WoWScrnShot_122216_115541.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/181105417374400513/261537598235738112/WoWScrnShot_122216_115713.jpg) I want to change it so its more like this + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/181105417374400513/261539794675433472/WoWScrnShot_122216_120555.jpg) The issue I am running into is that I want it to change when I join a raid automatically. I don't know if this is possible. If this isn't, I could make 2 Elv ui profiles and switch between them, but I suppose would there be a macro I could use to load between them and just put them on a bar to switch easier than having to /ec and go to profiles to change it every time. | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On December 23 2016 03:10 Warri wrote: Some lucky dude in my tov heroic raid just got a 880+socket boe cloak. Then i got the mastery stat stick from helya coined. Then looted the same one. Already had the 875 mastery urn from nightbane too. If i looted first there is no way i wouldve coined the same item, or is that possible? fml. Nah you can coin the same item, nothing prevents that | ||
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