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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 16:40:48
November 22 2016 16:40 GMT
#4361
as someone who accidentally rerolled into a fotm spec i'm allowed to have kneejerk reactions to ptr builds

i'm feeling the difference between H EN and H TOV though holy fuck
ffxiv enjoyer
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 22 2016 16:49 GMT
#4362
On November 22 2016 22:27 Cyro wrote:


Well.. this is going to get nerfed

thumbs up for creativity, i didn't even know that mechanic existed


Wait what?? what's going on in there ? lol
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
694 Posts
November 22 2016 16:54 GMT
#4363
Looks like massive overkill damage with blood mirror.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 17:03:32
November 22 2016 17:03 GMT
#4364
On November 23 2016 01:49 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2016 22:27 Cyro wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sCi_8wTa9U&t=30s

Well.. this is going to get nerfed

thumbs up for creativity, i didn't even know that mechanic existed


Wait what?? what's going on in there ? lol


redirected damage with Blood Mirror, so they basically wiped the raid with massive overkill damage that redirected to boss.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 22 2016 17:05 GMT
#4365
Mythic Elerethe does 25% more damage and attacks 25% faster per spiderling near her, and drops a web which spawns 1 spiderling every 2 seconds for each person standing on said web.

Combine with Blood Mirror and you have yourself a cheese strat.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 22 2016 17:35 GMT
#4366
I know how she works, just didn't know what's Blood Mirror.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 22 2016 17:38 GMT
#4367
I'm a heroic scrub so I didn't until I looked it up and pieced it together!
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 22 2016 18:27 GMT
#4368
I didn't even know that the mechanic existed either but hey, it does. I've seen Mythic elerethe give somebody a 6 billion purgatory when stuff went horribly wrong so any kind of damage reflection/redirection is pretty dangerous
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 22 2016 18:30 GMT
#4369
Blizzard will probably hotfix in a cap ala Touch of Karma and call it a day.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Soan
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
New Zealand194 Posts
November 22 2016 18:34 GMT
#4370
On November 23 2016 01:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
You realise ptr changes are completely unfinished


I'm still waiting to see what they're going to do, if anything, with arms warriors, since if you want to maximise dps, there's only one set of talents to use.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 19:18:53
November 22 2016 19:17 GMT
#4371
On November 23 2016 03:27 Cyro wrote:
I didn't even know that the mechanic existed either but hey, it does. I've seen Mythic elerethe give somebody a 6 billion purgatory when stuff went horribly wrong so any kind of damage reflection/redirection is pretty dangerous


I've had some fun tanking her in all those messy tries we do, and managed one time to have over 70 million in stagger before having to let it tick on me. ( Under fort Brew and using all my CD to Blackout strike combo into ISB for paused stagger )

Half the fun of BrM sometimes is to amaze yourself at what you can survive.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
November 22 2016 21:00 GMT
#4372
Lul FS, Exorsus and Limit getting banned for their mythic helya exploit. Chances are their kills will be taken away as well. I'm amazed the french are even playing the game at this point if you count all their bans from earlier than just what they've got in FS so far :p
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 22 2016 21:51 GMT
#4373
Guy named Sephuz joined our guild and asked if we want to know his secret. I thought it was funny as hell.
Off-season = best season
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 22 2016 21:56 GMT
#4374
Next thing you know you have a tank called Prydaz join and say he is going to protect you all.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 23:20:26
November 22 2016 23:18 GMT
#4375
Heightened Senses has an uptime of about 25% according to my logs. Which means my 895 HS gives on average as much stats as a generic pure stat trinket at item lvl 875. Pretty underwhelming, like all healer trinkets.
Off-season = best season
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 23:54:25
November 22 2016 23:53 GMT
#4376
Raven Crests wrath 880 from weekly chest.. + Show Spoiler +
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME BLIZZARD ... why does this piece of shit even exist... so triggered right now.. literally anything, any single fucking relic would be acceptable except this.

Oh well thats life... moving on...
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24741 Posts
November 23 2016 01:54 GMT
#4377
On November 23 2016 06:00 DCRed wrote:
Lul FS, Exorsus and Limit getting banned for their mythic helya exploit. Chances are their kills will be taken away as well. I'm amazed the french are even playing the game at this point if you count all their bans from earlier than just what they've got in FS so far :p

It doesn't exactly affect me as a casual player, but it kind of bothers me that players get banned for exploiting poor game design. It's one thing to turn in the same bugged quest over and over and get a billion artifact knowledge... it's another to stop healing the tank during a critical phase because it helps you win.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-23 04:36:14
November 23 2016 02:45 GMT
#4378
Sounds like they all knew that it broke the mechanic in p3. One of the guilds even stopped doing it, submitted bug reports and then started again after the other two killed the boss that way.

If it went down as planned by that third guild - letting the tank die to cancel one breath cast before combat ressing them - i think it would have been fine, we've done similar things to skip a mechanic once throughout mythic progress. It's the "boss gets confused and stops casting important mechanic for the rest of the fight" that was the problem.

We've had bans in the past for people accidentally breaking boss mechanics, doing it on purpose is several steps higher.

Some games in the past (Guild Wars 2 comes to mind) widely banned people for doing stuff ingame to their financial benefit which just seemed like part of the game at the time, i was not confident in playing the game without accidentally breaking rules and getting banned for it which was a big reason for me not playing long after launch.

In WoW there is no way that i could do an AP quest 50 times or remove one of the main mechanics for a phase in a world top 5 kill without knowing that something was broken. It's very questionable for Odyn and Helya to both have gamebreaking bugs in the progression race, if this sort of thing can happen often then it's harder to police. Odyn's bug existed on normal/heroic, on PTR and i heard even the Beta but i don't know anything about that part; Not sure if Helya's was mythic-only.

--

So week one of TOV Mythic

2 Helya kills
51 Guarm kills
173 Odyn kills

It's that time of the week again~
[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 23 2016 04:32 GMT
#4379
On November 23 2016 11:45 Cyro wrote:
Sounds like they all knew that it broke the mechanic in p3. One of the guilds even stopped doing it, submitted bug reports and then started again after the other two killed the boss that way.

If it went down as planned by that third guild - letting the tank die to cancel one breath cast before combat ressing them - i think it would have been fine, we've done similar things to skip a mechanic once throughout mythic progress. It's the "boss gets confused and stops casting important mechanic for the rest of the fight" that was the problem.

We've had bans in the past for people accidentally breaking boss mechanics, doing it on purpose is several steps higher.

Some games in the past (Guild Wars 2 comes to mind) widely banned people for doing stuff ingame to their financial benefit which just seemed like part of the game at the time, i was not confident in playing the game without accidentally breaking rules and getting banned for it which was a big reason for me not playing long after launch.

In WoW there is no way that i could do an AP quest 50 times or remove one of the main mechanics for a phase in a world top 5 kill without knowing that something was broken. It's very questionable for Odyn and Helya to both have gamebreaking bugs in the progression race, if this sort of thing can happen often then it's harder to police.

--

So week one of TOV Mythic

2 Helya kills
51 Guarm kills
173 Odyn kills


I mean Serenity did it and they didnt even stack classes or nothing so its clearly doable.
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
November 23 2016 04:36 GMT
#4380
Limit even admitted that they knew it was an exploit and did it anyway and straight up said they deserved the ban they got.
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