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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
On November 21 2016 01:51 Agh wrote: ? Bears have borderline broken damage for tanks. Don't confuse a spec with bad players. For AoE and bosses where they don't need to 100% tank (can catweave) maybe. It's not nearly as good for regular singel target tank all the time. | ||
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Agh
United States1014 Posts
On November 21 2016 01:03 Cyro wrote: I guess we'll be able to scale damage beyond trait 35 a bit. Maybe another ~5% damage will be quite reasonable - i'm just questioning the dungeon burnout since we're gonna have mainly the same dungeons for a few years. Really wise to do them all 50-200 times each before the first raid tier set is released? I'm tanking now btw, it's really bad :D will record some, DH feels like alternating between invulnerability and going 100-0 before you can blink The new affixes should add some flavor to dungeons. Hopefully they get rid off or change things that actually hamper you going fast (Necrotic stacks should drop after combat, bolster being linked to each pack of mobs/chain radius reduced, etc). I like the design but they should definitely implement the scaling of AP reward for dungeon time asap. Why would I waste my time with anything else besides 9-10 min Maw carries? DH mastery stacking pre-nerf was definitely too good and addressed the issue they had. The nerf was appropriate but they should have increased their base armor as well. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On November 20 2016 06:25 Emnjay808 wrote: Wow token up to 55k now. Did everyone figure out how to make gold now? it's actually ridiculous how easy it is 835 BoEs dropping off mobs while leveling was the easiest 20k of my life, stockpiled elixirs of the rapid mind from garrisons sold for 16k-18k, fucking sky golem prices, etc have 100k at once for the first time ever and i'm scared to do anything with it apart from consumables and merching chaos crystals | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
DH mastery stacking pre-nerf was definitely too good and addressed the issue they had. The nerf was appropriate but they should have increased their base armor as well. The problem was never the value of the stat, it was the scaling system. It's exponentially scaling and we had enough stats available to reach the OP part of that curve. They didn't change the scaling, they only did a bandaid fix for the stat value; such scaling means that it's still OP with a huge amount and trash with a small amount @dungeon speed - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/9#metric=speed&dataset=90&keystone=4 | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Gn5UpsJ.jpg) Palas op. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Got 695 + socket Hightened Senses though to replace 840 trinket, that was nice.  | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21965 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
I know of a few bugs on mythic odyn atm, he's also just a pretty long and hard fight at ~11 mins Wondering what people here think, if you could pick any dps class to play for 7.1.5 onwards what would you pick? Hard to say since 7.1.5 is half finished then we'll be going into a new raid with new tier sets and a new balance pass | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
And then doing world quests with 2 chars? Man this is exactly what I dont like about this expansion. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Having 2 mains is a huge pain in the ass in Legion; having a competent alt is easier than ever. Just know the difference and don't take it into Guarm mythic unless you have a FOTM class or an imbalanced legendary | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Starting to see a fracture between the good players ( who can only do so much and use the time to joke on vocal a lot more ) and the other part of average/bad players that get annoyed by the discussions. Seems like we're at a roadblock and noone is really sure what to do. I'm confident that most of the players in the second part are definitely not Mythic caliber players ( I'm talking about people that are clear mouselicker, not really interested in getting better, using third party tools, that don't even botehr to play outside of raiding ) but what can you do, you need 20 players in the end. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Well, my guild just spent our 4th or 5th evenbing wiping on Mythic elereth, and it's getting clear that even if we kill her, we won't ever kill any of the other bosses in there before Nighthold. We found Ursoc easier w/ gear, less stuff to do but it is important that you do it fairly correctly. If you overgear you can afford stuff like 2-3 people missing a charge etc and my kill times have shrunk from ~5:03 to 3:55 so i guess the hard and soft enrages are not as hard as they used to be Starting to see a fracture between the good players ( who can only do so much and use the time to joke on vocal a lot more ) and the other part of average/bad players that get annoyed by the discussions. Happens all the time especially at the level where you start needing to perform decently, prepare, talk about tactics etc. I think most mythic guilds are actually in a similar situation since they've got one, two, maybe four bosses but progress slowly or hit a wall. If you're not pushing people & recruiting more to raise the skill floor in the guild then the floor and the ceiling can get pretty far apart and may limit you to primarily heroic content while creating some friction between players If that's not what you want then i think the best option is to look at some higher skilled guilds w/ good leadership and atmosphere to apply to. If it is what you want then sit back and relax :D | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
ya that's me done with keystones for the week why is bolstering even a thing | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On November 21 2016 09:08 Noocta wrote: Well, my guild just spent our 4th or 5th evenbing wiping on Mythic elereth, and it's getting clear that even if we kill her, we won't ever kill any of the other bosses in there before Nighthold. What part of the fight are you guys having trouble with? When do you lust? The age old problem with some raiders in the group being more dedicated than rest. Happens everywhere. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On November 21 2016 09:08 Noocta wrote: Well, my guild just spent our 4th or 5th evenbing wiping on Mythic elereth, and it's getting clear that even if we kill her, we won't ever kill any of the other bosses in there before Nighthold. Starting to see a fracture between the good players ( who can only do so much and use the time to joke on vocal a lot more ) and the other part of average/bad players that get annoyed by the discussions. Seems like we're at a roadblock and noone is really sure what to do. I'm confident that most of the players in the second part are definitely not Mythic caliber players ( I'm talking about people that are clear mouselicker, not really interested in getting better, using third party tools, that don't even botehr to play outside of raiding ) but what can you do, you need 20 players in the end. This is exactly what happened to us. Mythic Elerethe, couple of people constantly dying to stupid shit, not controlling the spider adds, and not understanding how Dark Winds works despite lots of explanations. Of our top 5 DPS, 3 transferred (me and the spriest are left) as well as our main tank and raid leader, all to a more populated server to piggyback off another guild. I'm at the point where I no longer play outside raiding. We did pick up replacements but they're nowhere near as good, so we've been doing Heroic EN and Normal ToV instead of working on Heroic ToV and Mythic EN like we were. Me and the spriest are close in DPS and everyone else is at least 30-50k below us (I'm affliction btw, which is still on the weaker end). I'm also at the point where I've pretty much got the best gear I'm gonna get outside of Mythic/Heroic raiding or getting super lucky in one of the Suramar Mythic+ dungeons (or NL). So I just don't see the point in playing all that much. Sure, I could level the artifact, but why? No incentive to get better when you're just carrying people anyway. | ||
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nimbim
Germany985 Posts
On November 21 2016 09:08 Noocta wrote: Well, my guild just spent our 4th or 5th evenbing wiping on Mythic elereth, and it's getting clear that even if we kill her, we won't ever kill any of the other bosses in there before Nighthold. Starting to see a fracture between the good players ( who can only do so much and use the time to joke on vocal a lot more ) and the other part of average/bad players that get annoyed by the discussions. Seems like we're at a roadblock and noone is really sure what to do. I'm confident that most of the players in the second part are definitely not Mythic caliber players ( I'm talking about people that are clear mouselicker, not really interested in getting better, using third party tools, that don't even botehr to play outside of raiding ) but what can you do, you need 20 players in the end. We had similar problems when we had to upgrade our roster to 20+ players for the then new mythic. I imagine you don't want to split up the players, so what we did is invite enough core mythic progress players to continue according to the strong players' wishes and the bad players are kept in the guild as reserve players and are swapped in to bosses we have on farm for players who don't need drops there anymore. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 21 2016 22:56 deth2munkies wrote: This is exactly what happened to us. Mythic Elerethe, couple of people constantly dying to stupid shit, not controlling the spider adds, and not understanding how Dark Winds works despite lots of explanations. Of our top 5 DPS, 3 transferred (me and the spriest are left) as well as our main tank and raid leader, all to a more populated server to piggyback off another guild. I'm at the point where I no longer play outside raiding. We did pick up replacements but they're nowhere near as good, so we've been doing Heroic EN and Normal ToV instead of working on Heroic ToV and Mythic EN like we were. Me and the spriest are close in DPS and everyone else is at least 30-50k below us (I'm affliction btw, which is still on the weaker end). I'm also at the point where I've pretty much got the best gear I'm gonna get outside of Mythic/Heroic raiding or getting super lucky in one of the Suramar Mythic+ dungeons (or NL). So I just don't see the point in playing all that much. Sure, I could level the artifact, but why? No incentive to get better when you're just carrying people anyway. I find it strange that guilds even bother with hc en and normal TV. I pug normal TOV and heroic EN every week anyway quite easily. Most of the grps I get are 1 shots and with loot being boss lockouts sometimes Ill just join for the bosses I want and Ill leave. I cant imagine needing a guild in the game the way it is for anything other than mythic progression. Which means that if your going to invest your time in being a raiding guild then you need to have requirements on how good people have to be. Granted there is a limited pool to choose from, but you have to be slightless ruthless otherwise you will just drain the fun from your game. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
I'm not sure what to do. I kinda want to try my luck in a more organized guild, totally know I have what it takes for one, just kinda sad at the idea of leaving friends. But I'm definitely tired of the feeling of carrying people that don't really care. Pretty common story in the end. | ||
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