• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:58
CET 12:58
KST 20:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational13SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Which foreign pros are considered the best? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1359 users

[WoW] Battle for Azeroth - Page 198

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 196 197 198 199 200 541 Next
BfA Community Links:
GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde
TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde
TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance
TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde
TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance
Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv

On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 04:35:40
November 06 2016 04:35 GMT
#3941
I didn't even know that voidform prevented movement o.x
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10137 Posts
November 06 2016 09:12 GMT
#3942
In one hand, gutting secondary stats to the point where ilvl is the first thing that matters seems like a horrible idea to an RPG. In the other hand, atleast it would alleviate the warforged RNG diablofestival.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 09:19:53
November 06 2016 09:18 GMT
#3943
On November 06 2016 18:12 Godwrath wrote:
In one hand, gutting secondary stats to the point where ilvl is the first thing that matters seems like a horrible idea to an RPG. In the other hand, atleast it would alleviate the warforged RNG diablofestival.


It does, but it's kinda silly at the same time to have some stats worth twice as much as other stats or 1.6x more than primary stat
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 06 2016 09:51 GMT
#3944
You can still move while in VF, you just can't move while casting unless you are in StM.

I raid with 867 Average Ilevel equiped and a 875 on sheet, lol.
WriterXiao8~~
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 09:58:54
November 06 2016 09:57 GMT
#3945
Once you get to 882 or so it's all about how many legendaries you have unused in your bag lol
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 06 2016 10:07 GMT
#3946
Not for me, Disc priest legendaries are goddamn awful and have goddamn awful secondaries as well.
WriterXiao8~~
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 06 2016 11:09 GMT
#3947
On November 06 2016 18:12 Godwrath wrote:
In one hand, gutting secondary stats to the point where ilvl is the first thing that matters seems like a horrible idea to an RPG. In the other hand, atleast it would alleviate the warforged RNG diablofestival.

was a lot better when you had to get hit cap could reforge etc etc, but now having 4? stats and thats it is garbage
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 11:24:25
November 06 2016 11:16 GMT
#3948
On the subject of hit rating.. missing ~27% of your melee attacks on dual wield classes still sucks https://soundcloud.com/totalspiffagedubs/playing-widowmaker-like
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 06 2016 11:35 GMT
#3949
On November 06 2016 19:07 Kipsate wrote:
Not for me, Disc priest legendaries are goddamn awful and have goddamn awful secondaries as well.


Disc has 1 good legendary and 1 decent and rest are garbage. Barrier ring is good, makes an awesome raid cd even better, the bracers that reduce pain supp cd when casting PW:S is decent. Rest are garbage stats with completely ignorable passives. I've got the ring, so I swapped my loot spec to shadow already.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51523 Posts
November 06 2016 11:37 GMT
#3950
Just went into a MoS +3.

+ Show Spoiler +

Skada: Damage for Total: 21:38 (55 Min 20 Sec):
1. Snowpie 256.76M (346.0K, 35.7%) <- me 860 dh
2. Oat 196.29M (261.4K, 27.3%) <- balance 870
3. Veraun 134.10M (175.8K, 18.7%)
4. Kalasag 117.05M (159.7K, 16.3%) <- fury 850 (his key so we were carrying)


druid proceeds to shit on people cause we missed 3 chest by 10 seconds.
i call him out on his dps.
he has a tantrum.
how can people be so bad at this game.
Commentator
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
November 06 2016 11:43 GMT
#3951
if anything, it's the Fury warriors poor dps that should be called out
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51523 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 11:54:24
November 06 2016 11:54 GMT
#3952
yeah he was terrible but at least he didn't talk shit so i laid off him
he knew inside he was bad when he saw the recount.
Commentator
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 06 2016 11:57 GMT
#3953
And its not like it is a requirement to be good at the game to play WoW. All fine as long as you dont shittalk others or vastly overestimate yourself.
Off-season = best season
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 06 2016 12:01 GMT
#3954
I tried cos 10 today and the 875 fire mage had less dps than me as pala tank on first boss and most mobs. We called it quits soon after when we couldnt get any of the construct/felhound/inquisitor groups down. Rip my key QQ
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51523 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 12:37:50
November 06 2016 12:31 GMT
#3955
finally did my cos +7 key, got 2 chest with a carry group of mythic geared raiders - proud that i kept up with their dps i must admit.

+ Show Spoiler +

1. Bilbotbagins 422.24M (508.1K, 36.1%) - 878 monk
2. Faelaelae 280.31M (361.7K, 23.9%) - 872 spriest
3. Snowpie 271.11M (323.5K, 23.2%) - me 860 dh
4. Mlnideath 188.34M (223.1K, 16.1%) - 883 dk


sorry if i'm all spammy right now but it just feels good that it appears i'm not limited by my mechanical skill at the game.

EDIT: TL guild is planning on doing a Kara run at 4:30pm EST on Sunday and looking at who we have for it (me, micronesia, Rebs, farvacola), we'd need a tank to fill up the group - let me know if you can come help!
Commentator
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 12:47:07
November 06 2016 12:44 GMT
#3956
You need to realize though that 5man total DPS is not a way to meassure skill. Some classes like boomkin/spriest are not suited for 5man trash DPS. Also, please don't ever use 4 healers for a 15 man group .
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
November 06 2016 13:08 GMT
#3957
can confirm, am spriest, my trash aoe is 10/10
chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
694 Posts
November 06 2016 13:39 GMT
#3958
It's not just the trash for shadow priests. 10 minute timer on S2M means that their only redeeming factor right now isn't even usable on all of the bosses. Still not the best either, since most bosses die before you can really ramp up the damage.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
November 06 2016 13:41 GMT
#3959
On November 06 2016 22:08 malcram wrote:
can confirm, am spriest, my trash aoe is 10/10


From what I hears spriest and boomkin can change their talents to either good ST or good Aoe. What is your ilevel and total dps then? do you reach 400k total dps in high m+? Because that's about how much you need to comfortably run +10 imo.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22068 Posts
November 06 2016 13:47 GMT
#3960
On November 06 2016 22:41 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 22:08 malcram wrote:
can confirm, am spriest, my trash aoe is 10/10


From what I hears spriest and boomkin can change their talents to either good ST or good Aoe. What is your ilevel and total dps then? do you reach 400k total dps in high m+? Because that's about how much you need to comfortably run +10 imo.

Shadow priests cannot spec for AoE. at best you get a 30 second cooldown mediocre damage aoe spell.

Shadow does better at high mythic because mobs live long enough to dot everything and go into voidform for a bit but they will always be below pretty much every other dps spec in the game (assuming equal skill/gear).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Prev 1 196 197 198 199 200 541 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RongYI Cup
11:00
Playoffs Day 1
Solar vs ClassicLIVE!
RotterdaM649
ComeBackTV 578
WardiTV367
IndyStarCraft 166
Rex113
BRAT_OK 88
3DClanTV 67
EnkiAlexander 45
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 649
IndyStarCraft 166
Rex 113
Lowko92
BRAT_OK 88
ProTech4
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7974
Rain 3721
Flash 2079
Horang2 1391
Hyuk 1369
BeSt 745
Larva 635
Jaedong 499
Soma 437
Stork 322
[ Show more ]
firebathero 274
Mini 257
actioN 246
Light 199
Soulkey 166
Zeus 152
Pusan 111
ggaemo 106
Snow 102
ZerO 101
Rush 82
Sharp 60
Mind 53
Shuttle 52
yabsab 51
PianO 50
Mong 49
Barracks 41
ToSsGirL 38
Yoon 37
Free 28
scan(afreeca) 27
soO 25
zelot 21
Shinee 18
GoRush 18
JulyZerg 17
Terrorterran 17
Nal_rA 17
Icarus 16
910 15
Noble 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
HiyA 15
[sc1f]eonzerg 13
Bale 13
ivOry 8
sorry 5
Dota 2
singsing2308
Gorgc656
Fuzer 167
XcaliburYe109
NeuroSwarm88
Dendi78
Counter-Strike
kennyS2210
olofmeister1811
zeus952
oskar137
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King129
Other Games
B2W.Neo442
Sick227
Pyrionflax221
ToD90
edward53
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 93
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV269
• lizZardDota255
League of Legends
• Lourlo1270
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
2h 2m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 2m
OSC
12h 2m
Replay Cast
21h 2m
RongYI Cup
23h 2m
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs Creator
WardiTV Invitational
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
RongYI Cup
1d 23h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
[ Show More ]
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.