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hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 17:03:28
September 14 2015 17:00 GMT
#81
Maybe someone has already mentioned this. But the poll is terribly flawed. It asks which is the most fun we've had. But we've never had a version with no inject.

No Macro Boosters (Chrono, Mule, Inject Removed) (347)


How can so many people vote that this is the most fun they've had, when it never happened? Anyway, I voted that way also because I think they should all be removed. But the wording in the poll is just bad, the results are tainted. And that's enough for Blizzard to totally discredit/ignore this poll.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
AgamemnonSC2
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada254 Posts
September 14 2015 17:36 GMT
#82
Thank you for pointing out the mistake. I edited the op. I still think the poll is meaningful, just a typo.
Co-Founder of SC2 Mistakes
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
September 14 2015 18:01 GMT
#83
no macro mechanics, rebalance the game.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 14 2015 18:19 GMT
#84
put macro mechanics further up in the tech tree to encourage expanding
AgamemnonSC2
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada254 Posts
September 15 2015 00:32 GMT
#85
On September 15 2015 03:19 y0su wrote:
put macro mechanics further up in the tech tree to encourage expanding


Neat idea, but I just don't think that will happen, nor do I want it to.
Co-Founder of SC2 Mistakes
eyk123
Profile Joined September 2015
1 Post
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 02:36:54
September 15 2015 02:35 GMT
#86
Guys its the same story every time.
Blizzard will not listen to this poll and they are right to do so. Forum polls never accuratly represent the playerbase. Its a pre selected sample group of people who tend to have a problem or are unhappy with the state of the game.
People that are unhappy with the state of the game tend to complain and seek to reinforce their opinion with same minded people which they find on the forums. People happy with the game play the game...
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
September 15 2015 03:03 GMT
#87
Can't believe the results I'm seeing.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
September 15 2015 03:55 GMT
#88
I think they need to remove all of them.

Mule hammers late game solved.
Sudden supply spikes from z solved (unfavorable to T and P).
Protoss BS reduced.

I think it will be alot more interesting but this would mean that units require re-balancing.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 15 2015 04:09 GMT
#89
On September 15 2015 12:03 DooMDash wrote:
Can't believe the results I'm seeing.


What did you expect?
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 15 2015 04:11 GMT
#90
On September 15 2015 11:35 eyk123 wrote:
Guys its the same story every time.
Blizzard will not listen to this poll and they are right to do so. Forum polls never accuratly represent the playerbase. Its a pre selected sample group of people who tend to have a problem or are unhappy with the state of the game.
People that are unhappy with the state of the game tend to complain and seek to reinforce their opinion with same minded people which they find on the forums. People happy with the game play the game...


Thank you for the quite first optimistic post you made. Mind suggesting how can we get an actual sample from the player base? We are trying to spread this everywhere we can. Do you know any other way that could help us? Or we are just doomed to fail?
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 04:21:16
September 15 2015 04:18 GMT
#91
What hitpoint said is indeed a big flaw.

But eyk123, i think there is no problem with forum polls, just take it as what it is, something that represents a specific community. Its not supposed to represent all players. I think the opinion from this community is relevant, its a pretty big group, just put a "e-sport enthusiast and forum peep" tag.

I never voted btw, still not sure.

edit: maybe people in other places will vote too and it becomes less biased towards whatever TL community thinks.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 15 2015 04:21 GMT
#92
On September 15 2015 13:18 Superbanana wrote:
What hitpoint said is indeed a big flaw.

But eyk123, i think there is no problem with forum polls, just take it as what it is, something that represents a specific community. Its not supposed to represent all players. I think the opinion from this community is relevant, its a pretty big group, just put a "e-sport enthusiast and forum peep" tag.

I never voted btw, still not sure.

edit: maybe people in other places will vote too and it becoms less biased towards whatever TL community thinks.


This is not limited to TL. I shared this on BNET Forums and on Reddit (Typical reddit because I'm not a known person I get downvoted)

We are trying to spread this everywhere to get the largest possible sample. If you know other places that we could spread this it would be nice.
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
September 15 2015 04:23 GMT
#93
On September 15 2015 13:09 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 12:03 DooMDash wrote:
Can't believe the results I'm seeing.


What did you expect?

I figured TL of all places would enjoy the macro mechanics. This poll scares me.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
September 15 2015 04:50 GMT
#94
On September 15 2015 13:23 DooMDash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 13:09 WrathSCII wrote:
On September 15 2015 12:03 DooMDash wrote:
Can't believe the results I'm seeing.


What did you expect?

I figured TL of all places would enjoy the macro mechanics. This poll scares me.


Macro is awesome. Macro mechanics are the best part of the game. And by that I mean building supply, units, and structures. Macro boosters are cancer and make the game too volatile. That said, anything is better than automation.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
September 15 2015 05:10 GMT
#95
On September 15 2015 13:50 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 13:23 DooMDash wrote:
On September 15 2015 13:09 WrathSCII wrote:
On September 15 2015 12:03 DooMDash wrote:
Can't believe the results I'm seeing.


What did you expect?

I figured TL of all places would enjoy the macro mechanics. This poll scares me.


Macro is awesome. Macro mechanics are the best part of the game. And by that I mean building supply, units, and structures. Macro boosters are cancer and make the game too volatile. That said, anything is better than automation.


I always felt it was consistent. Can you explain why you feel this way? I always felt it was just a quirk of the race, like anything else unique to that race. I like that they are different, the same way I appreciate the other differences.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
September 15 2015 06:04 GMT
#96
Once again, the quiet majority is quite enjoyable to hear.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 15 2015 06:39 GMT
#97
On September 15 2015 13:23 DooMDash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 13:09 WrathSCII wrote:
On September 15 2015 12:03 DooMDash wrote:
Can't believe the results I'm seeing.


What did you expect?

I figured TL of all places would enjoy the macro mechanics. This poll scares me.


You would be mistaken by reddit in that case
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 15 2015 06:39 GMT
#98
On September 15 2015 15:04 Daswollvieh wrote:
Once again, the quiet majority is quite enjoyable to hear.


Lets hope Blizzard notices this poll...
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 15 2015 07:08 GMT
#99
On September 15 2015 09:32 AgamemnonSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 03:19 y0su wrote:
put macro mechanics further up in the tech tree to encourage expanding


Neat idea, but I just don't think that will happen, nor do I want it to.

I like the overall idea of each race having more uniqueness (especially concerning macro). With WG protoss has taken a huge step in being different from terran (they were much more similar in BW). However I like the idea of making choices like should I PF my 3rd or not. I think things of that nature are good for the game. The mechanics (as they currently are or were in HotS) however come so early in the tech tree (or immediately for ). Instead of providing an early economy (or production) boost they were further up and provided a way to jump into the late game easier....

actually even typing that it reminds me why I just want them removed! I don't want a mechanic that boosts income (or production). Want more income, build more workers. Want to increase worker production, build more town halls.

Mechanics like creep spread add a cool dynamic and something to fight over (too bad it seems to only really affect ZvT). I like the choice of orbital vs pf and scan vs supply call down.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
September 15 2015 07:37 GMT
#100
My preferred macro mechanics:

Zerg
No injects AT ALL. Have Z make extra hatches to up their production, more in line with P&T making production buildings.
Queens still have creep, transfuse (and general base defense) to attend to.
Terran
Remove mules COMPLETELY.
Orbitals still have scans and supply call down.
Protoss
Keep (a form of) chrono boost.
To give P something they have to consider too.




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