EPTNFL 2015 Season - Page 59
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zev318
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GreenHorizons
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JimmyJRaynor
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On July 07 2015 08:09 JimmiC wrote: I think decent. Toronto is like the 5th biggest media market in NA and there is interest I guess its a matter of NFL wanting expansion or a team failing. Toronto has been #4 for a while now. its Mexico City, New York and LA ahead of "the center of the universe" http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/03/05/largest-cities-north-america-toronto-chicago_n_2815578.html On July 07 2015 07:24 QuanticHawk wrote: London is dumb ass hell but I see no reason for Canada to not have a team since it could be clearly supported. I guess it's probably due to not wanting to upset CFL a) Toronto did not support the "Bills In Toronto" series at all. It was an absolute disaster. b) There is no appetite amongst Ontarians to build a giant NFL style football stadium on the tax payers dime. Just check out all the bullshit Lewieke had to pull to get the city to chip in to renovate BMO Field which the city owns. The province and the Feds contributed $0. c)The Canadian Dollar is falling like a rock. d) MLSE has ZERO INTEREST in building an NFL Style Stadium. No proper NFL Stadium paid for by the taxpayer means that no owner is interested in getting an NFL team. e) The typical elite rich Canadian guy wants an NHL team and his name engraved on the Stanley Cup ... not an NFL team. f) A team in Toronto contributes exactly zero new viewers to the NFL TV package which is the lifeblood of the league. Therefore, the probability of Toronto getting an NFL team is EXACTLY ZERO. The probability of Canada getting an NFL Team is also zero. | ||
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zev318
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i would not want a team in toronto, cause fuck that shit. fuck the pan am games that are here now too. edit: i should say that if the bills were a good team, they would have more support, but they suck. | ||
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AgentW
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:29 zev318 wrote: lo who the fuck would support the bills. did u really think that toronto or any city would support a random team that just happens to visit? its like complaining that london doesnt support the 2 teams that come over to play the preseason or something. there's no connection there between the fans and the team. i would not want a team in toronto, cause fuck that shit. fuck the pan am games that are here now too. edit: i should say that if the bills were a good team, they would have more support, but they suck. Bills are a solid team now, despite the massive void at QB since Jim Kelly retired. I live in upstate New York and the Bills have more support here than the jets do. once you reach syracuse, good luck finding even a Giants fan. half the state roots for them, despite the 15 seasons without making the playoffs. as for the canada/ london thing. both ideas are terrible. Canada wouldn't have the backing, and London doesn't make any damn sense for a team. no free agents would want to go there, marketing would be a miserable endeavor, and can you feasibly have a team travel that much, that often? NFL getting too big for its britches. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17479 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:29 zev318 wrote: lo who the fuck would support the bills. did u really think that toronto or any city would support a random team that just happens to visit? its like complaining that london doesnt support the 2 teams that come over to play the preseason or something. there's no connection there between the fans and the team. i would not want a team in toronto, cause fuck that shit. fuck the pan am games that are here now too. edit: i should say that if the bills were a good team, they would have more support, but they suck. Torontonians support all their other losing teams just fine. Blue Jays have missed the play offs more years in a row than any other team in MLB. The Raptors have won one playoff series in 20 years.. the TFC have never made the playoffs and The Leafs. lol  In fact, Toronto's winningest franchise, The Argonauts, is the least supported. if Torontonians were super desperate for the "NFL Experience" they would have attended. They attend all the games for all the other losing teams. Ted Rogers banked $60+ million dollars on it. He was wrong. The series was a disaster. There just isn't much demand for NFL games held in Toronto. Torontonians and people in the GTA and western Ontario would rather just drive to Buffalo. Its the same crap team that was in the Rogers Centre for the "Bills in Toronto" series. And, its a lot more fun. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:45 LeeDawg wrote: Bills are a solid team now, despite the massive void at QB since Jim Kelly retired. I live in upstate New York and the Bills have more support here than the jets do. once you reach syracuse, good luck finding even a Giants fan. half the state roots for them, despite the 15 seasons without making the playoffs. as for the canada/ london thing. both ideas are terrible. Canada wouldn't have the backing, and London doesn't make any damn sense for a team. no free agents would want to go there, marketing would be a miserable endeavor, and can you feasibly have a team travel that much, that often? NFL getting too big for its britches. i think if they put a team in london, whoever visits would have a bye week immediately after. and the london team would go on like 2-3 game road trips at a time. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Torontonians support all their other losing teams just fine. Blue Jays have missed the play offs more years in a row than any other team in MLB. The Raptors have won one playoff series in 20 years.. the TFC have never made the playoffs and The Leafs. lol In fact, Toronto's winningest franchise, The Argonauts, is the least supported. if Torontonians were super desperate for the "NFL Experience" they would have attended. They attend all the games for all the other losing teams. Ted Rogers banked $60+ million dollars on it. He was wrong. The series was a disaster. Torontonians and people in the GTA and western Ontario would rather just drive to Buffalo. Its the same crap team that was in the Rogers Centre for the "Bills in Toronto" series. And, its a lot more fun. well ya cause they (jays, leafs, raptors, argos) actually are a toronto team, and the bills arent. no one would support that. i mean sure they'll go for a one off just to be like OMG I SAW THE NFLZ, IT WUZ COOL. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17479 Posts
On July 09 2015 13:00 zev318 wrote: well ya cause they (jays, leafs, raptors, argos) actually are a toronto team, and the bills arent. no one would support that. i mean sure they'll go for a one off just to be like OMG I SAW THE NFLZ, IT WUZ COOL. Attendance in Montreal for Toronto Blue Jays multiple pre-season games in multiple different years is amazing. Cities will support the teams of other cities. http://montrealgazette.com/sports/baseball-pit-stop-at-big-o-revives-hopes 1 year the Bills entered the Toronto game with a 5-2 record with Ryan Fitzpatrick looking like the next Joe Montana. Attendance was horrible... there was zero buzz in the cavernous concrete convertible. even the very first game in the "Bill in TOronto" series was a disaster. the attendance was horrible and the ticket prices had to be revised to get people into the game. http://www.torontosun.com/2013/12/04/six-reasons-why-bills-in-toronto-series-needs-to-end An NFL team only puts on 1 game per week and usually its on the weekend. People in Canada are just happy to make a day of it and drive to Green Bay, Detroit, Seattle, Buffalo, Minnesota , Chicago etc etc and watch the games there. A very large majority of the Canadian population lives close to the US border. People in London, England do not have this option. So they go ape-shit when the NFL comes to town. So London keeps getting more and more NFL games ... and they deserve them. There is no NFL stadium in Canada and no political will to fund the building of one. | ||
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Jerubaal
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
On July 09 2015 13:30 Jerubaal wrote: So, there have been a lot of fireworks this offseason. Too soon? Never too soon to put someone on blast for doing dumb shit. | ||
GTR
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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On July 09 2015 12:29 zev318 wrote: lo who the fuck would support the bills. did u really think that toronto or any city would support a random team that just happens to visit? its like complaining that london doesnt support the 2 teams that come over to play the preseason or something. there's no connection there between the fans and the team. i would not want a team in toronto, cause fuck that shit. fuck the pan am games that are here now too. edit: i should say that if the bills were a good team, they would have more support, but they suck. just for the record, London sold out Wembley Stadium to watch the 1-9 Jacksonsville Jaguars. Toronto could not sell 45,000 heavily discounted tickets to watch the 5-2 Bills. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25236443/nfl-tottenham-hotspur-agree-on-10-year-partnership-for-nfl-games 0 games for Toronto and 20 games for London based upon the support of random teams that just happen to visit. Smart move by the NFL to pay attention to the buying signals of its international fans imo. I'd like to let Buffalo Bills fans know that there is now no place for the Bills to play in Toronto . The Rogers Centre is being converted to a baseball only facility and the CFL team is leaving after this year. So Toronto is no longer any kind of threat. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
On July 09 2015 13:32 wongfeihung wrote: Never too soon to put someone on blast for doing dumb shit. we'd never know how bad it was if schefter didn't blow up JPP's spot like that | ||
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y0su
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 10 2015 03:54 y0su wrote: I can tell you that my teammates from Finland go see games in London... Every football fan in EU wants to. These games will keep selling out! (Just wish I had the cash to see the Lion's game) I bet you wish you were there for the one last year. my Falcons fans friends are still butthurt about it | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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It's now up to 3 games per year in England. It'll be interesting to see how high this number climbs. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On July 10 2015 04:12 Shellshock wrote: I bet you wish you were there for the one last year. my Falcons fans friends are still butthurt about it I definitely do! (A few of my teammates - including a Falcons fan - were!) | ||
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