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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
July 13 2015 05:11 GMT
#1201
On July 13 2015 01:04 farvacola wrote:
That's an excellent question.

healthcare laws only govern healthcare workers. the person who'd get in trouble would be whomever leaked that
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 13 2015 05:27 GMT
#1202
You think he will win? It's not like the team wouldn't get this info anyways as part of their due diligence so I'm not sure if the report lost him any money in his contract. I guess he would and probably should win on the whole leaking confidential medical records tho as I am pretty sure there are strict laws about who you can show those to.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 13 2015 05:45 GMT
#1203
On July 13 2015 14:27 Slaughter wrote:
You think he will win? It's not like the team wouldn't get this info anyways as part of their due diligence so I'm not sure if the report lost him any money in his contract. I guess he would and probably should win on the whole leaking confidential medical records tho as I am pretty sure there are strict laws about who you can show those to.


So, I am being speculative, but here is what I think the lawsuit would do.

Step 1: Sue Reporter.
Step 2: Suit gives you access to reporter's phone records (via subpoena).
Step 3: Deduce Source.
Step 4: Bring in hospital/source as defendants.
Step 5: Dismiss Reporter.

As long as the judge lets it get to step 2 (not guaranteed), and lets JPP get access to phone records, he can screw over a ton of people.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
July 13 2015 06:28 GMT
#1204
On July 13 2015 11:57 GTR wrote:
http://www.si.com/more-sports/2015/07/12/caitlin-jenner-espnys-espn-adam-schefter-jason-pierre-paul?page=2&devicetype=default

explains some of the legal defense behind espn/schefter if JPP decides to take legal action


I understand Schefter's position, but I think it's less a problem of whether or not this information would've eventually come to light(obviously him missing a finger would be obvious to the team when he showed up to camp or what have you), and more of a problem of how far the media will go to get this information. We all know the media can be scummy, but releasing private medical records in a picture on twitter is some seriously low shit, and I hope that Schefter has learned that from the criticism he has received. This time it may not have been anything incredibly sensitive about the patient released, but that's only this time. HIPPA law is there for a reason, and even if he is technically not the person who broke protocol, he was the conduit through which it happened.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42394 Posts
July 13 2015 14:18 GMT
#1205
On July 13 2015 14:11 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 01:04 farvacola wrote:
That's an excellent question.

healthcare laws only govern healthcare workers. the person who'd get in trouble would be whomever leaked that


Isn't that the case in every 'leak incident'. As long as the reporter isn't asking for the leaked material, then the reporter is fine.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-13 14:47:43
July 13 2015 14:43 GMT
#1206
the reporter could ask for it and still be fine since hippa is only concerned with healthcare workers. the only thing he'd be violating is privacy (so basically a lawsuit) but the 1st amendment would cover him very nicely in this instance. i mean TMZ skates free for far more trivial shit with celebrities under the guise of their targets being public figures.

a major free agent athlete who is injured under mysterious, possibly criminal circumstances, blocks his own team from so much as seeing him. that's like the defintion of public interest of a major public figure. JPP wouldn't get anywhere by suing Schefter, and ESPN would have a very compelling interest to defend him on top of it being a pretty slamdunk case.

schefter talked about it more here

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2015/07/12/caitlin-jenner-espnys-espn-adam-schefter-jason-pierre-paul?page=2&devicetype=default

ianal but again, i certainly think they wouldn't get far even if they sued schefter to get him to release his source. He and ESPN would almost certainly be covered by loads of precedent on that front. and on top of that, he/espn would fight it tooth and nail because of the implications of him coughing up the source. it seems like it would be a suit that would accomplish almost nothing.

On July 13 2015 15:28 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 11:57 GTR wrote:
http://www.si.com/more-sports/2015/07/12/caitlin-jenner-espnys-espn-adam-schefter-jason-pierre-paul?page=2&devicetype=default

explains some of the legal defense behind espn/schefter if JPP decides to take legal action


I understand Schefter's position, but I think it's less a problem of whether or not this information would've eventually come to light(obviously him missing a finger would be obvious to the team when he showed up to camp or what have you), and more of a problem of how far the media will go to get this information. We all know the media can be scummy, but releasing private medical records in a picture on twitter is some seriously low shit, and I hope that Schefter has learned that from the criticism he has received. This time it may not have been anything incredibly sensitive about the patient released, but that's only this time. HIPPA law is there for a reason, and even if he is technically not the person who broke protocol, he was the conduit through which it happened.


Yeah this is an entirely different discussion. Legally Schefter is almost certainly in the clear. It's an issue of freedom of the press and a public figure. All precedents in that field give him a pretty damn airtight case

Morally there's certainly argument about whether or not this was kosher or neccessary to given that he does have a pretty solid rep already. And going even further, it certainly doesn't seem like he's thought about the impact this will have on his rep with players who viewed that as him being a lapdog for an owner over the players.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
July 13 2015 22:14 GMT
#1207
Top 5 preseason Defenses; Go!
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
July 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#1208
seahawks
texans
bills
cards
ravens

Since the Niners are going to blow I'm all aboard the Sexy Rexy train. I want that man to celebrate every win with 50 wings and gain 50lbs
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 02:29:37
July 14 2015 02:18 GMT
#1209
A humourous look at taxpayer funded stadiums built for billionaire NFL owners so that multi-millionaire players can play in them.
$12 billion spent from 2000 to 2010 in the USA on taxpayer funded stadiums.

half the teams in the league threatening to leave for LA if they do not get a new free tax payer funded stadium.

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 14 2015 12:42 GMT
#1210
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-15 14:22:35
July 14 2015 21:33 GMT
#1211
On July 14 2015 21:42 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 07:52 QuanticHawk wrote:
seahawks
texans
bills
cards
ravens

Since the Niners are going to blow I'm all aboard the Sexy Rexy train. I want that man to celebrate every win with 50 wings and gain 50lbs


I think you pretty much nailed IT. Other contenders would be Mia stl, jets. Dal might put up good numbers if the backs can carry the load and adding hardy and lee should help but that has everything to do with time of possession

Chiefs deserve consideration if Houston gets signed.
.. Speaking of which, the stress is getting to me. Pay him ffs!
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
July 15 2015 15:01 GMT
#1212
yeah chiefs would definitely be 6 for me and I think those guys and maybe 1 or 2 other teams are all interchanable from 3-7 or so. I think the Hawks are clearly #1, and and followed closely by texans and bills
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GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
July 15 2015 15:10 GMT
#1213
On July 15 2015 06:33 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 21:42 JimmiC wrote:
On July 14 2015 07:52 QuanticHawk wrote:
seahawks
texans
bills
cards
ravens

Since the Niners are going to blow I'm all aboard the Sexy Rexy train. I want that man to celebrate every win with 50 wings and gain 50lbs


I think you pretty much nailed IT. Other contenders would be Mia stl, jets. Dal might put up good numbers if the backs can carry the load and adding hardy and lee should help but that has everything to do with time of possession

Chiefs deserve consideration if Houston gets signed.
.. Speaking of which, the stress is getting to me. Pay him ffs!


There's a guy on the Chiefs board I go to that was apparently right about some things the Chiefs have done (drafting DAT, signing Maclin) and supposedly has some sources inside the organization. He posted on Sunday that the Chiefs and Houston have agreed to a deal but were waiting until after the All-Star game to announce it so as to not take any attention away from the Royals. It sounds really odd, but in the next few days after he posted that, it's been reported that Houston and his agent are in Kansas City (which isn't surprising considering that the deadline is today) and that the Chiefs were very optimistic about it.

It sounds too good to be true, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't getting my hopes up.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
July 15 2015 16:04 GMT
#1214
And there it is! 6 years, $101 M, $52.5 M of that guaranteed.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 15 2015 16:06 GMT
#1215
is Justin Houston the least talked about top player? Richest linebacker deal in NFL history
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 15 2015 16:37 GMT
#1216
On July 16 2015 01:04 GoShox wrote:
And there it is! 6 years, $101 M, $52.5 M of that guaranteed.

Phew, thanks goodness!
A JJ Watt sized deal, but a year later. With the cap ever rising that's about what I was expecting and he deserves it.
Now we just need to step up and actually make some noise this year.
On July 16 2015 01:06 Shellshock wrote:
is Justin Houston the least talked about top player? Richest linebacker deal in NFL history

I think he is yeah, and strangely underrated. Almost broke the sack record last year with 22 but hardly got any attention for it. He's not one-dimensional either. He's fantastic against the run and is great when dropping back too. The guy is just an all-around baller.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
July 15 2015 16:48 GMT
#1217
yeah no one talks about him at all and from what i've seen he is pretty rad
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
July 15 2015 18:17 GMT
#1218
KC has had a few good players go under recognized. Maybe this year? That division feels weaker than last
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
July 15 2015 18:27 GMT
#1219
smith at the helm of a team with a good defense and good run game got the niners to the playoffs. i dont see any reason the chiefs cant since as noted that division blows
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 15 2015 19:21 GMT
#1220
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