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2primenumbers
United States144 Posts
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HeatEXTEND
Netherlands836 Posts
On June 03 2014 05:47 Nighttiger wrote: Those real viewers might also sub/donate to a subpar stream. Wouldn't that still be their own fault lol | ||
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2primenumbers
United States144 Posts
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warthog
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aike
United States1629 Posts
On June 03 2014 08:08 warthog wrote: hm, LoL wasnt that popular after all then I wasn't going to post, but this made me laugh.  Anyways I was watching my buddy stream last night (with 1 other friend watching as well) when suddenly 480 viewers! Haha. Either it was viewer bots or twitch freaked out... it stayed like that for about 20 minutes and then went back to normal. | ||
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bosshd
Belgium72 Posts
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bosshd
Belgium72 Posts
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bosshd
Belgium72 Posts
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magicmUnky
Australia280 Posts
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On June 03 2014 08:51 magicmUnky wrote: I suspect that watching an embedded twitch stream will appear as a viewbot might to that viewbot detector (the detector just compares the advertised stream viewer count with the stream chat population). That'd explain things like the ESL viewer number discrepancy. 98.8% of the viewers on the ESL stream were identified as being viewbots. I don't think it's reasonable to assume that 98.8% of the total viewers came from TeamLiquid. While we wait for another ESL stream to start, does anyone know if that particular stream was embedded on any high traffic sites that might have had an impact? I did observe one potential out, which was that I was having a lot of trouble loading the user list in the chatroom. It was hanging pretty badly. If the tool was also unable to retrieve the list, that could have had something to do with it. But the numbers did seem to be changing over time, and the percentage was never 100%. As I said in the LR thread, we should keep an eye on it. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
For example I was streaming a few weeks ago and I went from 5-10 viewers into 1k/2k. Then after I stopped streaming I got a pm from the bot service saying if I want it to pay then xx. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
You can make the default sort "by subscriptions" for example, or twitch sorts with whatever algorithm they come up with. then the bots become useless. And at some point someone needs to start claning up the internet from all those infected hardware that is used for spam bots, social media bots and those ddos attacks. | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
I knew there were bots but I didn't know there were that many, nor that all of those were seemingly controlled by one person. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On June 03 2014 10:26 LaNague wrote: well, if viewbots dont mess with the money side, then the obvious solution is to sort the streams differently if they become a permanent problem. You can make the default sort "by subscriptions" for example, or twitch sorts with whatever algorithm they come up with. then the bots become useless. And at some point someone needs to start claning up the internet from all those infected hardware that is used for spam bots, social media bots and those ddos attacks. Wouldn't hold your breath on the cleaning it up part, the amount of technologically retarded people online is staggering. If all the phishing and tricks to get people's information/machines didn't work they wouldn't be doing it. Unfortunately it works quite well on a lot of people and an alarming number of companies have had their databases ransacked so even big companies aren't immune to shit. Twitch does allow sorting by player skill in CS:GO using the API from valve, that's one way of sorting things if people are looking for high skilled players though it does nothing for entertaining players. Could probably do it by follows as well, I'm assuming the bots aren't logged into accounts so they can't follow a stream to inflate that number. | ||
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AnonymousSC2
United States189 Posts
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bosshd
Belgium72 Posts
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eightym
United States76 Posts
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On July 16 2014 22:51 eightym wrote: The reason people think WinterSC viewbots is because the people who post in the forums are generally higher level players (at least plat). Most of us are not impressed with the content that Winter provides. He's zerg so watching him play offrace is quite painful. People think, "there's no way anyone finds this crap educational." But I think the fact of the matter is, there's more bronze scrubs out there than we realize. You'll never find someone good watching his stream, though. Anyone masters or above would consider his stream garbage. I watch his stream, and I'm at least mid diamond as Terran. I just enjoy watching someone commentate their games who tries to provide good content and seems like a genuinely good person. | ||
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On July 16 2014 22:51 eightym wrote: The reason people think WinterSC viewbots is because the people who post in the forums are generally higher level players (at least plat). Most of us are not impressed with the content that Winter provides. He's zerg so watching him play offrace is quite painful. People think, "there's no way anyone finds this crap educational." But I think the fact of the matter is, there's more bronze scrubs out there than we realize. You'll never find someone good watching his stream, though. Anyone masters or above would consider his stream garbage. I get the idea, but I find the stream hypocritical. I don't see the appeal, personally, smurfing low leaguers all day and ruling your chat with an iron first, no thanks buddy. Other people probably viewbot him, but I wouldn't complain if I was him either, even if the 3K viewer count is fake, i'm sure it feels good to see that. | ||
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Nesserev
Belgium2760 Posts
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