Luxury found not-guilty of domestic violence charges

On April 17 2014 10:31 itsjustatank wrote:
he's still a disgusting piece of shit

Q. After you finished as a pro gamer, what have you been doing?

A. Because I was a pro gamer for a long time, honestly I still have a lot of desire to continue in the gaming world. But since I cannot continue like this, I am currently preparing to try to become a government employee.

On April 17 2014 12:59 riyanme wrote:

shocked at his choice, i hope he doesnt do that crap again

On April 17 2014 13:07 Tipany wrote:
I can't help but sympathize with Luxury. And all this hate is pretty childish.

On April 17 2014 13:12 Sero wrote:
Thanks for the translation. Why is everyone saying he's still a piece of shit if he was innocent? That seems kind of harsh for the match fixing alone, and he's already been shit on enough since everyone just assumed he was guilty. Not to mention being betrayed by his wife, who made up false allegations to ruin his reputation and have him arrested.

On April 17 2014 12:30 JohnChoi wrote:
hmm in the other TL post there was a linked article stating he admitted to abuse but in this new interview he's saying he didn't lay a hand on her. in addition that linked article is dead. FISHY FISHY O_O

On April 17 2014 12:47 CaucasianAsian wrote:

Q. The topics of the writings that your wife had written on nate… was it true?

A. It was completely untrue. The largest issue about threating her with hydrochloric acid was untrue. And what she said about getting an exemption from the military service because of her rare disease, alongside with what she said about me avoiding military through my toe was not true.

On April 17 2014 15:37 hacklebeast wrote:


I still don't understand why he just casually has hydrochloric acid lying around that he could use to threaten his wife (even if you assume she is lying, I would have to guess that she wouldn't falsely accuse him of this unless he actually had the acid to make the claim plausible. Which still leave me to wonder why the fuck he has acid.).

from wiki page: "One of the most important applications of hydrochloric acid is in the pickling of steel".

the fuck

On April 17 2014 16:26 Jaaaaasper wrote:
He's still a disgusting piece of shit
And not guilty is not a innocent verdict.

On April 17 2014 16:40 CaucasianAsian wrote:


If I'm not mistaken, arent we innocent until proven guilty?

On April 17 2014 16:23 Saechiis wrote:
Move on people. This hate circlejerk is disgusting. He cheated in a game 5 years ago and then got sued by his ex wife for abuse of which he has been cleared. Let's not drive another person to suicide over your selfish misgivings.

My ex-wife would not acknowledge the results of the first trial, and pressed for an appeal so I had to endure more difficulties. During that time, even though I felt that it was unfair and difficult, it became known that I did not commit a crime, and I was certain my innocence would become clear.

A. Because of the distortion of the truth, I became mentally exhausted. As the trials continued, I gained a distrust in people, and became socio-phobic (scared of other people) so it was very hard. I felt nothing but the scathing eyes on me when I went out.

A. I am in the middle of reporting her for perjury and libel. In life, during this very important time the hatred I can feel in society’s eyes about me and it’s very difficult. I can’t do anything. It’s very devastating. It’s very difficult to go about this alone.

A. First, I am incredibly sorry to my team, fans, and family. As the incident came about, and the investigation for the truth, I would like to give my testimony.

I did not act appropriately as a pro-gamer, and even today I am regretting my actions and continue to self-reflect on what I had done. Since high school, I was engulfed in the goal of becoming a progamer. There are not enough reasons to say why I had done it. Even though it ended this way, I have matured through the mistakes of my past.

There are many people who still don’t think of me as a progamer, due to the despicable and shameful incidents that happened. Alongside with my fans, I am very disappointed in myself, and I feel extremely regretful and I think it was a shame.

A. Because I was a pro gamer for a long time, honestly I still have a lot of desire to continue in the gaming world. But since I cannot continue like this, I am currently preparing to try to become a government employee.

A. I am very sorry for the shameful incidents that I have done. I want to thank everyone who has been with me until the end and all of the strength that they have given me. I want to thank those who cheered for me, and my encouraging friends, family, and lawyer. I am very grateful.

From now on, I will be much more careful about my actions and what I say. Through this incident, I am extremely relieved that the truth was made clear. From now on, as I reflect on myself and my previous actions, I am going to try very hard in life. Also, compared to the pain from the cyberbullying of the netizens, I hope that they will give encouragement and continue to cheer.

On April 17 2014 17:44 Glioburd wrote:

^ this

Funny how our justice concept is different.
If Luxury is only a match fixer, I don't understand why you guys still consider him like a piece of shit more than the others. He is the first one to regret it. He auto destructed his life.

On April 17 2014 17:37 Filco wrote:
I never understood what exactly match fixing is, and neither did I ever understood why people (even occidental noobs) would never forgive him. It not like if these guys had been banned from every possible league, had their career ruined and heir reputation destroyed. To say he's a piece of shit like that reminds me all the fucks in middle age throwing fruits to someone guilty. It happened years from now, what about redemption and forgivness... Especially since that's really a korean affair...

On April 17 2014 18:02 riyanme wrote:


have he ever did something to redeem himself? words are piles of crap without action.
i will only give my total respect if he 'truly' repented for his crimes

On April 17 2014 18:02 riyanme wrote:
have he ever did something to redeem himself? words are piles of crap without action.
i will only give my total respect if he 'truly' repented for his crimes

On April 17 2014 18:22 eScaper-tsunami wrote:


How is he gonna repent? Commit suicide? Let's be realistic here, it's the haters who doesn't even give him a chance to repent.

On April 17 2014 17:44 Glioburd wrote:

^ this

On April 17 2014 19:19 Slayer91 wrote:
All this vitriol and hatred is awful. He's paid for his crimes already, what's the point of holding a grudge? He's not the fucking antichrist he's just some kid who tried to make an extra buck on the side. As a struggling progamer with a family to support and no future career prospects. He's far from the only one to have partaken in organized crime, to him he just sees some gamblers losing money he didn't see the big picture. Even if the "death" of pro bw was caused by this scandal (was probably mostly starcraft 2 splitting what was already a small hardcore fanbase) there's no sense in treating him like shit like all the netizens in korea are also doing.

It's fucking terrible how you're talking about another human being just because his actions got YOUR toys taken away. (seems to be like blaming him for bw's loss of popularity just seems a convenient scapegoat, it's like 0.0001% of games that were ever fixed)

because my post lacks a hitler reference this is exactly like when hitler was blaming the jews for the downfall for the greatness of germany

On April 17 2014 19:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I don't think you're getting the point I'm not talking about the match fixing scandal, I'm talking about this lawsuit, even if hes been acquitted I take domestic abuse fucking seriously, I would have felt the same way about anyone not just luxury.

I won't pretend I know the whole truth and that what I know is the truth, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, I doubt the ex-wife is a nutjob, she wouldn't have brought up a lawsuit for no reason and even appeal after the fist trial.

On April 17 2014 19:32 Monsen wrote:


Yeah, man it's only so few games that were fixed, no idea why that made people so upset! I mean if it had been 80% of all games, then yes, I'm sure you and I could understand the vitriol but only 0.0000000001% that's like NOTHING!
Haters gonna hate, they're just mad because they got owned by that cool kid.
It's like the fucking jews that are probably still mad at the nazis even though they number ~ 13,854,800 and Hitler didn't even kill 6 millions. That's not even half.
Fuck the haters.

Also don't forget to bring the milk to the next math morons monthly meet, I paid last time.

On April 17 2014 19:39 endy wrote:


The % is completely irrelevant. The mere fact that matches were fixed and that it was in the news is more than enough to keep sponsors away. And certainly decent share of the fan base was disgusted and stopped watching BW. I remember Kim Carry literally begging the viewers to keep watching BW after the scandal.

On April 17 2014 19:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I don't think you're getting the point I'm not talking about the match fixing scandal, I'm talking about this lawsuit, even if hes been acquitted I take domestic abuse fucking seriously, I would have felt the same way about anyone not just luxury.

I won't pretend I know the whole truth and that what I know is the truth, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, I doubt the ex-wife is a nutjob, she wouldn't have brought up a lawsuit for no reason and even appeal after the fist trial.

On April 17 2014 19:59 JohnChoi wrote:

I actually think the ex-wife has a couple screws loose... wouldn't be the first time a female "victim" sues their ex-husband/bf for monetary gain. What really threw me off was the part about Luxury's toe and how the ex wife claims he purposely infected it and her father took time out of his own work to take him to the hospital and have him treated.. Like if that actually happened wouldn't the father of the ex-wife stick up for that point? Luxury declares its all a lie (that he did it on purpose.. so is he saying it happened but its an accident or did it not happen at all?).
It just seems so weird that the father of a girl who's supposedly getting abused by her spouse would be so kind to his son-in-law. Like was the abuse not visible on the body? was she not in contact with her father? was she not comfortable telling his parents about these things? I felt like through not 1 but 2 trials that kind of stuff would have definitely been brought to light.
I guess it all comes down to the fact that we probably don't even know like 10% of the details involving this matter. I guess I'd have to say both parties are at fault.
still think its super weird how the article that had Luxury admitting to abuse (from this thread) is just completely wiped...

On April 17 2014 19:39 Waxangel wrote:
http://mbn.mk.co.kr/pages/news/newsView.php?news_seq_no=1229176

Luxury always denied the charges from the start, he never partially admitted to anything

On April 17 2014 20:05 Caihead wrote:
Hold up a sec, why is everybody saying Luxury is a pos to news of the verdict clearing him of guilt, twice? Or does everyone on page one assume that the Korean legal system doesn't work and that Luxury has some inside deal with corrupt judges to obscure the truth? Guilty until proven innocent?

Update 5:34 PM
According to the article on Fomos and Naver, Luxury was accused of threatening his wife with acid on 3 occasions, past March, May, and June.

He has testified to the police that "He admits that he has abused his wife, but he did not threaten with acid".

Link to the article
http://www.mydaily.co.kr/news/read.html?newsid=201208241633415527&ext=na

On April 17 2014 20:11 JohnChoi wrote:



someone plz clarify what this is I'm so confused by this. is this another one of those lost in translation things?

also this post by ZeroChrome was pretty insightful regarding the scandal's impact on sponsors.

On April 17 2014 19:59 JohnChoi wrote:

I actually think the ex-wife has a couple screws loose... wouldn't be the first time a female "victim" sues their ex-husband/bf for monetary gain. What really threw me off was the part about Luxury's toe and how the ex wife claims he purposely infected it and her father took time out of his own work to take him to the hospital and have him treated.. Like if that actually happened wouldn't the father of the ex-wife stick up for that point? Luxury declares its all a lie (that he did it on purpose.. so is he saying it happened but its an accident or did it not happen at all?).

On April 17 2014 21:05 quirinus wrote:
Threatening with acid does not imply actually having it at that moment. Also:

Hydrochloric acid
"[...]It has numerous smaller-scale applications, including household cleaning [...]"

That's watered down some, though. I use it for cleaning some stuff...

He was found not guilty 2 times, so he's innocent. We can't know what really happened, but according to the judge/jury either it didn't happen or there wasn't enough proof.

Yea he was part of the match fixing, but that was 5 years ago, he was an inexperienced kid and didn't fully understand the possible consequences of those actions - and he regrets it now.

On April 17 2014 19:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I doubt the ex-wife is a nutjob, she wouldn't have brought up a lawsuit for no reason and even appeal after the fist trial.

On April 18 2014 03:08 SnowFantasy wrote:

Just curious. .. what are you basing this on?

On April 17 2014 16:26 Jaaaaasper wrote:
He's still a disgusting piece of shit
And not guilty is not a innocent verdict.

On April 18 2014 10:59 rauk wrote:


too bad there's no such thing as an "innocent" verdict

On April 17 2014 20:05 Caihead wrote:
Hold up a sec, why is everybody saying Luxury is a pos to news of the verdict clearing him of guilt, twice? Or does everyone on page one assume that the Korean legal system doesn't work and that Luxury has some inside deal with corrupt judges to obscure the truth? Guilty until proven innocent?

On April 19 2014 01:56 G3CKO wrote:
This is really believable because of one reason I think. The one reason is that domestic cases between couples almost ALWAYS favor the woman. It's actually really disgusting sometimes of what women can get away with in divorce cases and cases like this. So Luxury's defense must have some really convincing evidence to back their side of the story up.

On April 17 2014 19:32 Slayer91 wrote:


A disgraced progamer who lost his source of income then gets divorced by his wife who suddenly comes up with a domestic abuse lawsuit on which there was found to be no evidence. How the fuck would his nerdly little arms get the energy to beat his wife after practicing anyway.

obviously domestic abuse is shitty but so is ruining someone's life by making a false charge, even if they aren't sent to prison if it shows up on his record judgemental people like you would assume he did it.



my claims for low amount of match fixing was related to its effect on the "death of bw" and not "was it wrong for people to fix matches"
in the jew metaphor it would be like if hitler killed 10 jews would it be a holocaust not would hitler be a good guy

On April 17 2014 19:45 Slayer91 wrote:


At that time starcraft 2 was nearly out, with beta tournaments all over, and blizzard was putting lots of pressure on KeSPA over ownership of bw rights etcetc so sponsors were already more likely to want to go to starcraft 2 as well as most of the viewers since the game was new and popular worldwide

im not saying it had no effect but it might be exaggerated.

On April 20 2014 01:38 IntoTheheart wrote:


On TL, it's the other way around.

On April 20 2014 00:36 T.O.P. wrote:

Meh, it wasn't sc2. OGN moved to League because everyone and their mother plays it.

On April 19 2014 20:28 Monsen wrote:


Yeah, I got that. You're not an idiot for getting the percentage wrong, you're a fool for failing to realize that the number of fixed games is pretty much irrelevant *.
The fact that matches were fixed is more than enough to discredit the sport for viewers and sponsors.
Also, has anyone so far even made the claim that the matchfixing scandal was the sole reason for Bws "death"? I don't think so. Nevertheless it certainly was the event most detrimental to the Bw scene (maybe even esports in general) to date.

* That, and poopoo-ing the (hurt) feelings ("kid took your toys away") of Starcraft fans on a Starcraft forum. Smart move buddy.

On April 20 2014 18:14 Slayer91 wrote:


You're saying that the numbers don't matter? That's ridiculous, there's a huge difference between 5 fixed games and 500, a few doesn't discredit the entire ESPORTS but it isn't good for reputation, with starcraft 2 coming out, ogn switching to league mbc running out of money kespa having legal issues it seems immature to assume that match fixing was the only reason, though it definitely is a good scapegoat.
At the end of the day starcraft 2 and LoL had more money in them, and in business thats what mattered, the slightly tarnished BW rep simply made the decision easy
Like neither of us can prove it either way, and it is completely illogical to think that matchfixing ruining esports is a binary affair, 1 person doing it once would be an incident, 5 people doing it 5 times in a scandal, if it was half the proleague it would definitely shut everything down, but unfortunately things were turbulent already.

On April 20 2014 18:35 McRatyn wrote:


This is exactly the poblem I have with grasping the magnitude of match fixing's dmg to Korean eSports. If an industry would fall apart entirely due to one scandal that involved 11 players (I'm counting those tried and banned, compare to the entire pro-player base, it's a drop in a pond). there was something seriously wrong with the industry itself before. Now I know phys-sports analogies are not perfect, or even good sometimes, but soccer has had so many, COUNTLESS, cases of matchfixing everywhere, can you imagine even for a second the football industy like folding or something based on one tried case?
I wasn't around when MFS happened nor when Luxury was first accused so that's case closed for me, if the judge says so then he didn't do it, and a former progamer has no influence on the court whatsoever for me to doubt that verdict (compared to some celebrity, unlikely but then you can at least speculate).

On April 21 2014 06:25 zeo wrote:
What the hell has match-fixing got to do with him being married to a horrible woman? Who knows how many men's lives are ruined because of false accusations and people can say someone deserves it?

On April 21 2014 06:25 zeo wrote:
What the hell has match-fixing got to do with him being married to a horrible woman? Who knows how many men's lives are ruined because of false accusations and people can say someone deserves it?

On April 21 2014 07:22 Xiphos wrote:


Exactly, there are plenty of lying women around that want to ruin their husband's/boyfriend's life when shit gets sour.

Then again, someone people would agree that Matchfixing was detrimental to BW's scene. I mean perhaps that if matchfixing didn't happen, BW could have maintain enough of a positive PR in order for the scene to weather Blizzard's BW purge w/ enough interested companies.

On April 21 2014 06:43 Jaaaaasper wrote:

No where near as many as Internet mra's like to think there is.

On April 21 2014 07:49 GeckoXp wrote:


But you know enough from internet sources to know what Luxury did?

On April 21 2014 08:27 shizaep wrote:
Found innocent but everyone will still hate him as if he is guilty. Yep, all it takes is to accuse someone and bring media attention to it to destroy their character.

On April 21 2014 09:04 Jaaaaasper wrote:

Pretty sure I disliked him before this.



I don't know if he was innocent or not, but not guilty is not the same thing as innocent.

On April 21 2014 09:43 shizaep wrote:

That's the problem.

On April 21 2014 09:04 Jaaaaasper wrote:

Pretty sure I disliked him before this.



I don't know if he was innocent or not, but not guilty is not the same thing as innocent.

On April 21 2014 11:47 CaucasianAsian wrote:


Then please give some insight as to what you think he is? He has been found not guilty by 2 different trials.

Hes still a disgusting pile of shit.

On April 21 2014 11:47 CaucasianAsian wrote:


Then please give some insight as to what you think he is? He has been found not guilty by 2 different trials.

On April 21 2014 12:27 lichter wrote:
Oh wow how am I supposed to joke about this now

On April 21 2014 12:21 Xiphos wrote:


Guys, let's be serious for a moment here.

Luxury almost got his life screwed over by his former wife of his.

On April 21 2014 17:10 lichter wrote:
I always felt like it was too ridiculous to be true

and anyway most tragedies become comedies eventually

On April 17 2014 18:13 ninazerg wrote:
It is has not been proven that people can be "driven" to suicide by others, because there are many mitigating factors involve, such as the person's mental health, physical health, possible drug/alcohol usage and overall psyche.