Ranked matchmaking coming to Dota 2 - Page 73

On December 29 2013 05:57 cilinder007 wrote:
I would just like to counterargument the argument that even if you do get a complete noob the opponent team will have one the same amout of time given enough games

Yes that may(may !) be true but I would like my games to be decided by the average skill of the team not which team has the worst player, that would just mean you would have ~50% winrate depending on how much you get "the guy" on your team instead of your skill level compared to the rest of the players in the game

On December 28 2013 14:42 Kupon3ss wrote:
Superior moba does indeed limit ranked parties to 2 player "dual queues"

Superior moba is lightyears ahead of dota in QQing though, I believe that their experience in QQing and complaining about ranked are something we should learn from.

We should ban all discussions of "elo hell", "riot-approved meta", and also bans (apparently)

On December 29 2013 06:27 iNteLStyLe wrote:


I guess LoL is superior if you're a 13 year old kid saving up money for the Xbox One. Glad to know you're happy where you are bro

On December 29 2013 06:27 iNteLStyLe wrote:


I guess LoL is superior if you're a 13 year old kid saving up money for the Xbox One. Glad to know you're happy where you are bro

On December 29 2013 05:57 cilinder007 wrote:
I would just like to counterargument the argument that even if you do get a complete noob the opponent team will have one the same amout of time given enough games

Yes that may(may !) be true but I would like my games to be decided by the average skill of the team not which team has the worst player, that would just mean you would have ~50% winrate depending on how much you get "the guy" on your team instead of your skill level compared to the rest of the players in the game

On December 29 2013 06:27 iNteLStyLe wrote:


I guess LoL is superior if you're a 13 year old kid saving up money for the Xbox One. Glad to know you're happy where you are bro

On December 29 2013 07:59 Esoterikk wrote:
I posted this in the GD thread but it probably belongs here instead.

Should I give a shit about my rating? Just had a losing streak in ranked and legit considered not playing the mode anymore. Ladder anxiety never really bothered me in Sc2 but in Dota the fear of getting a retarded team is getting to me.

Just play unranked? Don't give a shit about rating? trying to nip this in the bud before it ruins dota for me.

On December 29 2013 01:19 Plansix wrote:

That is not 100% true at all. I have played in pub games where we put together a solid team and worked well. I have also played in a game where someone tried to "counter" with Warlock, "because of the heal" and yelled at me to 1v1 him when I said our draft didn't go late game.

I have a friend who had over 1000 higher MMR(4000) than me and he says that he would rather me as a support than people in his MMR, because I am always willing to listen and follow up, even if I think it might lead to my death. Your ability to win a game has little to do with MMR or "skill" and more with your ability to work together and take risks together.

On December 29 2013 07:59 Esoterikk wrote:
I posted this in the GD thread but it probably belongs here instead.

Should I give a shit about my rating? Just had a losing streak in ranked and legit considered not playing the mode anymore. Ladder anxiety never really bothered me in Sc2 but in Dota the fear of getting a retarded team is getting to me.

Just play unranked? Don't give a shit about rating? trying to nip this in the bud before it ruins dota for me.

On December 29 2013 09:44 Souma wrote:


If rating matters to you then your mindset should be focused on improving first and foremost. Ranked matchmaking in general has a more serious atmosphere so it's a good tool to use to improve game knowledge. If you lose, you lose, just think in the long term and try to improve with every game. Eventually your rating will rise if you tackle it in this manner.

I try to employ this mentality in every game I play when I feel like I want to get better. Rather than taking each loss as a demoralizing blow, just try to take what you can from it and play better the next game. Obviously you'll get unlucky at times with teams, but there isn't ever a game where you just couldn't play better. There are unwinnable games, but there are no games where you'll ever play perfectly.

Sometimes I ask myself, 'If I was Dendi/Burning/EGM/etc., could I have carried that game?' Sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes it's no. Whatever the case, I'm nowhere close to their skill level, so there will always be room for much improvement.

I'm very competitive by nature though, so I do get frustrated. When I feel like I've reached a certain threshold, I take a step back and take a break for a couple days to a couple weeks to just relax. Easing your mind does wonders for your gameplay. It is never a good thing to play consecutive games all tense and frustrated.

In any case, just work on improving, and instead of worrying about winning/losing, worry about your game. I assure you if you just focus on getting better, your rating will naturally improve. The people who are always slowest to improve are those who bitch and moan at every corner, for example those who don't play up to par because they're dissatisfied with a captain's draft or a teammate. Always play whatever you're given to the best of your ability. After we lose I might tell the captain his draft was ass, but from the moment the hero picks begin and until the match is over, I'll put on my game face and play. And if we lose, I just move on and try to play better the next game.

You'll hit many walls along the way. There are always giant walls in every competitive game, and if you can't overcome them you'll be stuck at around the same rating. To overcome these walls, typically you just have to hone some of your basics. In DotA2 the usual suspects are generally last-hitting, item choices, ward placement, map awareness, hero micro, movement, on-the-fly decision making, communication, and just carrying a tp. You'll be surprised how far you can go by just improving your last hitting and item choices.

It seems like you've hit one of those walls. Now it's time to just focus on improving until you can overcome it. And when you do, you'll notice things you never noticed before, and DotA will be that much funner.

Until you hit the next wall.

Sometimes I ask myself, 'If I was Wreak#1, could I have carried that game?' Always the answer is yes.

On December 29 2013 08:08 Alur wrote:

If solo pubbing is that traumatizing, you should try finding people to play with.

On December 29 2013 07:59 Esoterikk wrote:
I posted this in the GD thread but it probably belongs here instead.

Should I give a shit about my rating? Just had a losing streak in ranked and legit considered not playing the mode anymore. Ladder anxiety never really bothered me in Sc2 but in Dota the fear of getting a retarded team is getting to me.

Just play unranked? Don't give a shit about rating? trying to nip this in the bud before it ruins dota for me.

On December 29 2013 04:09 Gevna wrote:
No I'm not carried by my friend. I just play with 1 friend who is 3.3k mmr. So not the 5 man coordinated stack. At first I thought it was just a lose streak, but it's getting long now. I often play solo, but never have been 30% winrate for so long.
Well I hope this will stop, because dota isn't really fun now.

On December 29 2013 08:08 Alur wrote:

If solo pubbing is that traumatizing, you should try finding people to play with.