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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
December 25 2013 20:26 GMT
#1241
Damn I'm playing like 1game daily and I still have 3 calibrating games for both solo and party. Hoping for at least 4k+
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NeoRussia
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 20:30:42
December 25 2013 20:28 GMT
#1242
On December 25 2013 22:33 Kupon3ss wrote:
because everybody thinks that they're above average


Isn't everybody here though? wouldn't average be like 3.2k?

Also players above 4k still do so many dumb things, I have to agree on that only 5.5k is good thing. Love the mmr system in dota though, if you were actually that good it would take you less than a day to get close to that from 3.2k, for sure.
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 25 2013 20:33 GMT
#1243
On December 26 2013 05:28 NeoRussia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 22:33 Kupon3ss wrote:
because everybody thinks that they're above average


Isn't everybody here though? wouldn't average be like 3.2k?

Also players above 4k still do so many dumb things, I have to agree on that only 5.5k is good thing. Love the mmr system in dota though, if you were actually that good it would take you less than a day to get close to that from 3.2k, for sure.

It seems like it takes quite a streak for the uncertainty to ramp up, so you'd have a lot of +25 games. I think 1 day might be a bit optimistic, since it's hard to fit much more than 20 games in a day.
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
December 25 2013 20:36 GMT
#1244
I think this thread depicts rather clearly the reason (or one of them) for which Valve have been delaying this whole ranking thing "for so long".
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
December 25 2013 20:39 GMT
#1245
On December 26 2013 03:39 Andre wrote:
Anything below 5,5k is shit.

above 5.5k, I am still shit : p got to work on my early game movement so much t_t
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 25 2013 20:43 GMT
#1246
On December 26 2013 05:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 03:39 Andre wrote:
Anything below 5,5k is shit.

above 5.5k, I am still shit : p got to work on my early game movement so much t_t

Party rating doesn't count!
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 25 2013 20:44 GMT
#1247
the fact is that everybody is shit, even pro team's are like 6 months behind the meta
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
December 25 2013 20:58 GMT
#1248
I'm playing solo queue around 4k and the quality of games has really been down lately since there is no options to play solo only. I normally get matched with stack of 4 vs stack of 4+1random which ends with one stack picking navi line up and the other stack randoming 4 melee and a 15 minute stomp. If that doesn't happen I get matched with 3-4 stacks of 2/3 people and 60% games are decided by that one guy who is way less skilled than other 9 players and is carried into the game by his stack/friend and gets crushed on lane and does nothing mid game. And I don't want to QQ too much, because I've been on the winning streaks recently, but I feel that more than how I play it matters which team has better stacks and that my impact on the game is way smaller than it was when I could choose solo players only option.
Treefrog42
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom36 Posts
December 25 2013 21:37 GMT
#1249
On December 26 2013 03:39 Andre wrote:
Anything below 5,5k is shit.


Well. I was not expecting that. Still, I am pleased with top 10% whatever you say.
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
December 25 2013 22:52 GMT
#1250
Yeah, from 4k to get to 5k, it's like a 40 games win streak. Unless you're a skilled Earth Spirit picker i doubt that's even possible. We're talkinga t least about 100 games, which is like a week during the holydays, or a month or so in normal condition, probably even more since a lot of evenings i'm just too tired to play. In this sense, not playing will keep your MMR low no matter what.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 25 2013 23:03 GMT
#1251
If you're really stomping games hard, which you should be if you're playing games 1k points below your level, I think the smurf detection will kick in and make you progress much faster. I imagine if a 5k player started playing on a 4k account, he would be back at 5k in under 30 games, easily. Of course I don't have a souce for that.
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willstertben
Profile Joined May 2013
427 Posts
December 25 2013 23:17 GMT
#1252
On December 26 2013 08:03 cecek wrote:
If you're really stomping games hard, which you should be if you're playing games 1k points below your level, I think the smurf detection will kick in and make you progress much faster. I imagine if a 5k player started playing on a 4k account, he would be back at 5k in under 30 games, easily. Of course I don't have a souce for that.


doesn't work like that. there only is smurf detection on the first games on a new account.
mmr goes up pretty quickly when you're winning more than losing though!
just figure out who to play ranked with and who not to play ranked with when you're in a party.

i don't know about solo, haven't finished my calibration games. i wish they would add a solo queue option again.
the match making is a lot better now though! i haven't played with people from a certain country that pretty much everybody in eu thinks need a region lock in a long time. in ranked that is. unranked feels like there isn't even a mmr anymore.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 25 2013 23:46 GMT
#1253
On December 26 2013 08:17 willstertben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 08:03 cecek wrote:
If you're really stomping games hard, which you should be if you're playing games 1k points below your level, I think the smurf detection will kick in and make you progress much faster. I imagine if a 5k player started playing on a 4k account, he would be back at 5k in under 30 games, easily. Of course I don't have a souce for that.


doesn't work like that. there only is smurf detection on the first games on a new account.
mmr goes up pretty quickly when you're winning more than losing though!
just figure out who to play ranked with and who not to play ranked with when you're in a party.

i don't know about solo, haven't finished my calibration games. i wish they would add a solo queue option again.
the match making is a lot better now though! i haven't played with people from a certain country that pretty much everybody in eu thinks need a region lock in a long time. in ranked that is. unranked feels like there isn't even a mmr anymore.

How do you know smurf detection only works in the first games? I never seen it mentioned anyway.

And you people need to be reasonable... If you region lock the game AND bring back solo queue option just count the amount of separate player pools. Ranked, Unranked. Both divided between solo queue and parties allowed. These region locked. And then divide these into different game modes. Yeah....enjoy your 30 minute wait times to get a decent game going. The high ranked players might not get a game in an hour with that system, or it would match players with ridiculously wide range of skill together. That system is awful.
super gg
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
December 26 2013 00:31 GMT
#1254
On December 26 2013 08:17 willstertben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 08:03 cecek wrote:
If you're really stomping games hard, which you should be if you're playing games 1k points below your level, I think the smurf detection will kick in and make you progress much faster. I imagine if a 5k player started playing on a 4k account, he would be back at 5k in under 30 games, easily. Of course I don't have a souce for that.


doesn't work like that. there only is smurf detection on the first games on a new account.
mmr goes up pretty quickly when you're winning more than losing though!
just figure out who to play ranked with and who not to play ranked with when you're in a party.

i don't know about solo, haven't finished my calibration games. i wish they would add a solo queue option again.
the match making is a lot better now though! i haven't played with people from a certain country that pretty much everybody in eu thinks need a region lock in a long time. in ranked that is. unranked feels like there isn't even a mmr anymore.


According to the Valve matchmaking post, if they think your MMR is wildly incorrect they'll reinstate calibration. I think that would probably only happen after a long streak.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 26 2013 00:38 GMT
#1255
On December 26 2013 09:31 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 08:17 willstertben wrote:
On December 26 2013 08:03 cecek wrote:
If you're really stomping games hard, which you should be if you're playing games 1k points below your level, I think the smurf detection will kick in and make you progress much faster. I imagine if a 5k player started playing on a 4k account, he would be back at 5k in under 30 games, easily. Of course I don't have a souce for that.


doesn't work like that. there only is smurf detection on the first games on a new account.
mmr goes up pretty quickly when you're winning more than losing though!
just figure out who to play ranked with and who not to play ranked with when you're in a party.

i don't know about solo, haven't finished my calibration games. i wish they would add a solo queue option again.
the match making is a lot better now though! i haven't played with people from a certain country that pretty much everybody in eu thinks need a region lock in a long time. in ranked that is. unranked feels like there isn't even a mmr anymore.


According to the Valve matchmaking post, if they think your MMR is wildly incorrect they'll reinstate calibration. I think that would probably only happen after a long streak.

Well yeah, that's the uncertainty stat. We don't know how long it takes to get it triggered. Might be 3 games, might be 20 for what we know.
super gg
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 26 2013 00:54 GMT
#1256
There is no way to climb up the MMR rating by playing 5th role supports. My supporting is better than my mid or carry but I lose a good percentage of my support games. Fails, feeds, blames etc.. 4K MMR is nowhere near what valve has stated.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Bandino
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
December 26 2013 01:21 GMT
#1257
On December 26 2013 09:54 Laserist wrote:
There is no way to climb up the MMR rating by playing 5th role supports. My supporting is better than my mid or carry but I lose a good percentage of my support games. Fails, feeds, blames etc.. 4K MMR is nowhere near what valve has stated.


I've actually found supporting can be a lot more helpful because a lot of players know how to play mid or carry but very few know how to support correctly. Also, generally when supporting I can cause us to win 2 lanes, the lane I'm supporting and mid, as well as disrupting the opponents jungle. Of course this is all anecdotal evidence, but I find that I can win my fair share of games that I play by supporting.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 26 2013 01:28 GMT
#1258
On December 26 2013 09:54 Laserist wrote:
There is no way to climb up the MMR rating by playing 5th role supports. My supporting is better than my mid or carry but I lose a good percentage of my support games. Fails, feeds, blames etc.. 4K MMR is nowhere near what valve has stated.


this has been proven false time and time again. Plenty of players have gotten to the top of ladders playing exclusively support. Even players who are not necessarily support players like fear have done it on great success. at the top of the ladder, individual mechanics actually play less of a role while understanding and game sense are even more important
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-26 01:38:04
December 26 2013 01:32 GMT
#1259
you can pick a high impact support like lion and snowball off a force staff

i am 18-6 (75%) at the moment (stacking with 1 friend), ill report back what my mmr increase is if we win the next game

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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 26 2013 01:48 GMT
#1260
On December 26 2013 10:28 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 09:54 Laserist wrote:
There is no way to climb up the MMR rating by playing 5th role supports. My supporting is better than my mid or carry but I lose a good percentage of my support games. Fails, feeds, blames etc.. 4K MMR is nowhere near what valve has stated.


this has been proven false time and time again. Plenty of players have gotten to the top of ladders playing exclusively support. Even players who are not necessarily support players like fear have done it on great success. at the top of the ladder, individual mechanics actually play less of a role while understanding and game sense are even more important


You prove my claim false by giving example of a pro player. Well Played!
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