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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 24 2013 00:08 GMT
#1141
On December 24 2013 08:32 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 08:27 Doomblaze wrote:
6-7 games a day is a lot for a 9-5 job, i can only do 1-2 a day when i work.

What to take from your small sample size is that its exactly the same as regular mm. The same thing would happen if you played unranked. You get the same points whether you win or lose because the two teams are viewed as roughly equal in skill, thats how the rating system works.


Playing 30 min stomps allows me to play for 4-5 hrs a day and then cry myself to sleep.

You should stop playing if that is what is happening. I'm in a lowish MMR and I have fine games with reasonable people. I'm not sure what you are doing, but you can only control yourself.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
December 24 2013 01:00 GMT
#1142
On December 24 2013 09:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 08:32 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
On December 24 2013 08:27 Doomblaze wrote:
6-7 games a day is a lot for a 9-5 job, i can only do 1-2 a day when i work.

What to take from your small sample size is that its exactly the same as regular mm. The same thing would happen if you played unranked. You get the same points whether you win or lose because the two teams are viewed as roughly equal in skill, thats how the rating system works.


Playing 30 min stomps allows me to play for 4-5 hrs a day and then cry myself to sleep.

You should stop playing if that is what is happening. I'm in a lowish MMR and I have fine games with reasonable people. I'm not sure what you are doing, but you can only control yourself.


count urself lucky. I dunno.. MAYBE IT IS ME!!!
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
December 24 2013 01:48 GMT
#1143
Would be nice if the heroes who are currently auto-banned in CM are autobannned in all games types in ranked tbh =( Oh well, one day I will stop sucking vs earthspirit I guess
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Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
December 24 2013 04:31 GMT
#1144
Man, about people ranting with Kaolin, I'm pretty sure keep practicing your positioning x__x
The guy is OP, everyone agrees, so do I, but if you can spot him while he CAN'T spot you then just stay out of his range and wait until he lured himself in. BKB, because it works just like what it should be.
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 24 2013 04:40 GMT
#1145
That doesn't work in dota2 engine because the rock is instantly grabbable and by the time the stun ends he could have rolled into you and punched you back into his team.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
December 24 2013 04:51 GMT
#1146
oh god its hilarious how bad people blame others for "tryharding" IN A FUCKING RANKED game....yeah why would people try so hard in ranked games hue hue hue
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
December 24 2013 04:55 GMT
#1147
On December 24 2013 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
That doesn't work in dota2 engine because the rock is instantly grabbable and by the time the stun ends he could have rolled into you and punched you back into his team.


I understand, but is it that extremely hard just to predict his movement o_o
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 05:06:20
December 24 2013 05:04 GMT
#1148
i was like you once. thinking earth spirit was fair game back in my day but after countless games of watching this boulder man roll across the map in seconds, grabbing allies in the middle of nowhere into his safe comfortable hands...
Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
December 24 2013 05:10 GMT
#1149
that last 5 words sound really wrong lol
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 24 2013 09:20 GMT
#1150
On December 24 2013 13:31 Eriksen wrote:
Man, about people ranting with Kaolin, I'm pretty sure keep practicing your positioning x__x
The guy is OP, everyone agrees, so do I, but if you can spot him while he CAN'T spot you then just stay out of his range and wait until he lured himself in. BKB, because it works just like what it should be.


his push goes thru bkb.
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 10:09:44
December 24 2013 10:09 GMT
#1151
On December 24 2013 18:20 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 13:31 Eriksen wrote:
Man, about people ranting with Kaolin, I'm pretty sure keep practicing your positioning x__x
The guy is OP, everyone agrees, so do I, but if you can spot him while he CAN'T spot you then just stay out of his range and wait until he lured himself in. BKB, because it works just like what it should be.


his push goes thru bkb.


Yea, what will happen is that unless you bkb before he puts his stone down, he will stun -> roll -> push you back, and even if you pop bkb between when his stun ends and he kicks you, you will still get knocked back far enough to most likely get raped by whoever he was ganking with, if they have anything that goes through bkb, or just enough damage to kill you!

It's really quite frustrating playing against that hero. I'd love to see some specific winrate statistics because I see him being extremely dominant in every 5k+ game.
@Munck
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 24 2013 12:50 GMT
#1152
Is there anyone with his party rating lower than solo? Every rating I've seen/heard about has the party rating at least 100 points higher.
super gg
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
December 24 2013 12:51 GMT
#1153
On December 24 2013 21:50 cecek wrote:
Is there anyone with his party rating lower than solo? Every rating I've seen/heard about has the party rating at least 100 points higher.

i played with one guy that had a solo rating above 4k and his prty rating was about 3,6k
FTD
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 24 2013 14:15 GMT
#1154
On December 24 2013 21:50 cecek wrote:
Is there anyone with his party rating lower than solo? Every rating I've seen/heard about has the party rating at least 100 points higher.

My party rating is 5400, solo 5500.
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rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
December 24 2013 14:29 GMT
#1155
On December 24 2013 07:53 Mazer wrote:
Did people honestly think Ranked MMR would make things drastically different from what we had before? There will be stomps regardless of how good the matchmaking system is made. There are so many variables in a game of DotA, once the game starts (picks/bans) all of that pre-game balancing goes out the window.

Personally in my 20+ ranked matches (just hit 4k), I've had a pretty good all around experience regardless of the game outcome which has been the best part of it. Even in some crushing losses, the flaming has been pretty minimal.


I assumed they would limit things like stacking, or segregate solo queuers from stacks and have the games be something like all draft. Since they just did a carbon copy of normal games just with visible rating of course its just going to be exactly that.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 24 2013 15:34 GMT
#1156
On December 24 2013 21:50 cecek wrote:
Is there anyone with his party rating lower than solo? Every rating I've seen/heard about has the party rating at least 100 points higher.


Mine was lower by like 30 points until I just went and lost 3 solos in a row
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 16:38:15
December 24 2013 16:38 GMT
#1157
does matchmaking dont give a shit about how good/bad you perform each game?

there are games i play like my life depended on it, but still lose because of shit teammates (intentional feeding, throwing, etc) and i still lose the same points as when i would just not give a fuck about the game at all

edit: yes i'm mad
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CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 16:44:11
December 24 2013 16:44 GMT
#1158
On December 25 2013 01:38 konadora wrote:
does matchmaking dont give a shit about how good/bad you perform each game?

there are games i play like my life depended on it, but still lose because of shit teammates (intentional feeding, throwing, etc) and i still lose the same points as when i would just not give a fuck about the game at all

edit: yes i'm mad

All matchmaking cares about is the result of the match.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 16:47:52
December 24 2013 16:47 GMT
#1159
On December 25 2013 01:38 konadora wrote:
does matchmaking dont give a shit about how good/bad you perform each game?

there are games i play like my life depended on it, but still lose because of shit teammates (intentional feeding, throwing, etc) and i still lose the same points as when i would just not give a fuck about the game at all

edit: yes i'm mad


It does give some shit. I remember I read in this forum, you may lose points when you win or vice versa. But it should be like you play godly, far far better than you mates and still lose.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
December 24 2013 17:09 GMT
#1160
On December 25 2013 01:47 Laserist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 01:38 konadora wrote:
does matchmaking dont give a shit about how good/bad you perform each game?

there are games i play like my life depended on it, but still lose because of shit teammates (intentional feeding, throwing, etc) and i still lose the same points as when i would just not give a fuck about the game at all

edit: yes i'm mad


It does give some shit. I remember I read in this forum, you may lose points when you win or vice versa. But it should be like you play godly, far far better than you mates and still lose.

as in, does it only factor if you lose or win? the issue is because there are two kinds of games where my team is just really shit but i played very well, and another being that we were just outplayed, but both games i lose the same amount of points. is this intentional? if so, it really is unfair.
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