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Dlash23
Profile Joined October 2012
Russian Federation38 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 13:06:12
April 10 2014 11:21 GMT
#8101
Is this fake or what?
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
April 10 2014 11:34 GMT
#8102
Clear evidence that Americans don't play enough Risk.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22586 Posts
April 10 2014 11:39 GMT
#8103
On April 10 2014 20:21 Dlash23 wrote:
Does this fake or what?

Americans are famous for how terrible there world knowledge is so no I dont doubt it is fake tho some are probably trolling.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
April 10 2014 11:47 GMT
#8104
On April 10 2014 20:21 Dlash23 wrote:
Does this fake or what?

What worries me the most is some people mistook the US to be Ukraine >_>
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 10 2014 11:49 GMT
#8105
ChristopherJM (Christopher Miller)

#Russia’s deep ties to #Donetsk’s Kremlin collaborators - by @alexmazuka & @vitaliy_sizoff for @KyivPost & @OCCRP http://t.co/iVIpehnzpY

2:05 PM Apr 10th via TweetDeck
http://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/454213504120422401

***
also, the recent speech by NATO SG Rasmussen is well worth reading.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 12:09:30
April 10 2014 12:07 GMT
#8106
On April 10 2014 20:09 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 19:13 Mc wrote:
Yeah I did self implicate myself since I do appear to be new via my post-count. And I highly doubt that there are any Russian paid forum trollers on teamliquid.net - it was said in jest. I actually have my doubts whether Russian paid web trollers exist at all.


If the Bulgarian Socialist Party (the first English article I've found: here) is able to pay web trolls, then why wouldn't Russia afford it?


i think yes, for sure
look at Ghanburighan guy for example - he is definitely paid by Russia, oh wait...

Pure fan
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
April 10 2014 13:42 GMT
#8107
On April 10 2014 20:47 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 20:21 Dlash23 wrote:
Does this fake or what?

What worries me the most is some people mistook the US to be Ukraine >_>

If you don't know how a map works or if you want to troll a poll or if your mouse slips, it seems like an easy target to hit.
Repeat before me
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
April 10 2014 13:53 GMT
#8108
On April 10 2014 12:07 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 05:12 hypercube wrote:
On April 10 2014 03:22 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Cultural conservatism? Yes, but mostly among those very same immigrants many Europeans are wary about or openly hostile towards.


That's an exaggeration. Yes, most immigrants from outside the EU are conservative but that doesn't make up for the vast shifts in attitude towards homosexuals and abortion rights that has happened in the last 25 years. There's also a steady loss of influence of the catholic church, both politically and as a moral authority in traditionally catholic countries like Spain, France and even Italy. This isn't just a consequence of less people being religious. For example the church's stance on contraception is openly ignored by most young catholics. I'm not sure but I understand this was much less true 30 years ago.


I'm not sure what you're saying here, I think you misunderstood me. What I meant was that if cultural conservatism in Europe is increasing anywhere, it is in communities dominated by recent immigrants who have brought their more conservative cultural norms from home with them. I totally agree with everything else you said there.


I must have. It sounded like you thought there was a slight shift to cultural conservatism due to immigration.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 10 2014 13:54 GMT
#8109
I'm suprised that even 1 in 6 got it right, but about the same amount appeared to have hit the black sea, and others hit random spots in the ocean, so I don't think it's reliable. Most probably, most of those misses are just people trying to zoom in or shift the map or something.
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
April 10 2014 14:33 GMT
#8110
On April 10 2014 22:54 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I'm suprised that even 1 in 6 got it right, but about the same amount appeared to have hit the black sea, and others hit random spots in the ocean, so I don't think it's reliable. Most probably, most of those misses are just people trying to zoom in or shift the map or something.


yeah yeah


Pure fan
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 15:24:16
April 10 2014 15:20 GMT
#8111
We get it. Americans are all imbeciles. The company that conducted that survey is not the most reputable, it has over 100 complaints on the better business bureau

Although yes Americans are bad at geography. I never once took a single geography class in all my years in NYC public schools. Shit one of the maps in my classrooms said USSR on it and one of my textbooks claimed that man had never gone to the moon.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Mc
Profile Joined March 2010
332 Posts
April 10 2014 15:27 GMT
#8112
On April 10 2014 23:33 PaleMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 22:54 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I'm suprised that even 1 in 6 got it right, but about the same amount appeared to have hit the black sea, and others hit random spots in the ocean, so I don't think it's reliable. Most probably, most of those misses are just people trying to zoom in or shift the map or something.


yeah yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtkX3OyPF4Q

Oh my, finally a post of yours I like and can agree with :p

As to the results of the internet poll-- he does have a point that internet polls are extremely inaccurate. But at the same time Americans are extremely ignorant of global geography compared to other developed countries. I wouldn't be surprised if the number was 1 in 6. In defence of Americans, why should they know European geography so well? They have 50 states to remember, each being quite unique (the US is very much like a federation of states with each state having a lot of autonomy). That's their world- where they live, where they travel. I'd be curious to see what percentage of Europeans can point out NY state on a map. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a similar number.

And to sum up, yes American's can be very dumb
5hh.gg
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
April 10 2014 15:33 GMT
#8113
On April 11 2014 00:27 Mc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 23:33 PaleMan wrote:
On April 10 2014 22:54 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I'm suprised that even 1 in 6 got it right, but about the same amount appeared to have hit the black sea, and others hit random spots in the ocean, so I don't think it's reliable. Most probably, most of those misses are just people trying to zoom in or shift the map or something.


yeah yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtkX3OyPF4Q

Oh my, finally a post of yours I like and can agree with :p



so you didn't like my post about "witch hunting"? sob... sob... sob... i thought it was brilliant!
Pure fan
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
April 10 2014 15:37 GMT
#8114
On April 11 2014 00:27 Mc wrote: I'd be curious to see what percentage of Europeans can point out NY state on a map. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a similar number.

Your wish is my command!
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Mc
Profile Joined March 2010
332 Posts
April 10 2014 15:43 GMT
#8115
On April 11 2014 00:33 PaleMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 00:27 Mc wrote:
On April 10 2014 23:33 PaleMan wrote:
On April 10 2014 22:54 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I'm suprised that even 1 in 6 got it right, but about the same amount appeared to have hit the black sea, and others hit random spots in the ocean, so I don't think it's reliable. Most probably, most of those misses are just people trying to zoom in or shift the map or something.


yeah yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtkX3OyPF4Q

Oh my, finally a post of yours I like and can agree with :p



so you didn't like my post about "witch hunting"? sob... sob... sob... i thought it was brilliant!

Actually that one wasn't bad either haha. Your sense of humour actually isn't that bad, it's just your sense of justice/freedom that bothers me
5hh.gg
Mc
Profile Joined March 2010
332 Posts
April 10 2014 15:52 GMT
#8116
On April 11 2014 00:37 TheFish7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 00:27 Mc wrote: I'd be curious to see what percentage of Europeans can point out NY state on a map. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a similar number.

Your wish is my command!

That's awesome: And it's fun to look at :
http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/americans-try-to-place-european-countries-on-a-map
5hh.gg
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
April 10 2014 16:33 GMT
#8117
On April 11 2014 00:27 Mc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 23:33 PaleMan wrote:
On April 10 2014 22:54 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I'm suprised that even 1 in 6 got it right, but about the same amount appeared to have hit the black sea, and others hit random spots in the ocean, so I don't think it's reliable. Most probably, most of those misses are just people trying to zoom in or shift the map or something.


yeah yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtkX3OyPF4Q

Oh my, finally a post of yours I like and can agree with :p

As to the results of the internet poll-- he does have a point that internet polls are extremely inaccurate. But at the same time Americans are extremely ignorant of global geography compared to other developed countries. I wouldn't be surprised if the number was 1 in 6. In defence of Americans, why should they know European geography so well? They have 50 states to remember, each being quite unique (the US is very much like a federation of states with each state having a lot of autonomy). That's their world- where they live, where they travel. I'd be curious to see what percentage of Europeans can point out NY state on a map. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a similar number.

And to sum up, yes American's can be very dumb

The difference is that the US is one nation while Europe consists of a lot of independent nations. Pointing out NY state would be like pointing out the province of Utrecht in the Netherlands on the map.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22586 Posts
April 10 2014 16:35 GMT
#8118
On April 11 2014 01:33 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 00:27 Mc wrote:
On April 10 2014 23:33 PaleMan wrote:
On April 10 2014 22:54 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I'm suprised that even 1 in 6 got it right, but about the same amount appeared to have hit the black sea, and others hit random spots in the ocean, so I don't think it's reliable. Most probably, most of those misses are just people trying to zoom in or shift the map or something.


yeah yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtkX3OyPF4Q

Oh my, finally a post of yours I like and can agree with :p

As to the results of the internet poll-- he does have a point that internet polls are extremely inaccurate. But at the same time Americans are extremely ignorant of global geography compared to other developed countries. I wouldn't be surprised if the number was 1 in 6. In defence of Americans, why should they know European geography so well? They have 50 states to remember, each being quite unique (the US is very much like a federation of states with each state having a lot of autonomy). That's their world- where they live, where they travel. I'd be curious to see what percentage of Europeans can point out NY state on a map. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a similar number.

And to sum up, yes American's can be very dumb

The difference is that the US is one nation while Europe consists of a lot of independent nations. Pointing out NY state would be like pointing out the province of Utrecht in the Netherlands on the map.

Americans don't see it that way but yes our education here just teaches us where the US is and doesn't really focus on what state is where.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 10 2014 16:42 GMT
#8119
On April 11 2014 01:35 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 01:33 RvB wrote:
On April 11 2014 00:27 Mc wrote:
On April 10 2014 23:33 PaleMan wrote:
On April 10 2014 22:54 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I'm suprised that even 1 in 6 got it right, but about the same amount appeared to have hit the black sea, and others hit random spots in the ocean, so I don't think it's reliable. Most probably, most of those misses are just people trying to zoom in or shift the map or something.


yeah yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtkX3OyPF4Q

Oh my, finally a post of yours I like and can agree with :p

As to the results of the internet poll-- he does have a point that internet polls are extremely inaccurate. But at the same time Americans are extremely ignorant of global geography compared to other developed countries. I wouldn't be surprised if the number was 1 in 6. In defence of Americans, why should they know European geography so well? They have 50 states to remember, each being quite unique (the US is very much like a federation of states with each state having a lot of autonomy). That's their world- where they live, where they travel. I'd be curious to see what percentage of Europeans can point out NY state on a map. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a similar number.

And to sum up, yes American's can be very dumb

The difference is that the US is one nation while Europe consists of a lot of independent nations. Pointing out NY state would be like pointing out the province of Utrecht in the Netherlands on the map.

Americans don't see it that way but yes our education here just teaches us where the US is and doesn't really focus on what state is where.

Americans generally aren't taught anything about geography anymore. I remember once in high school, my honors history class (ie the supposedly smartest, best-educated kids) was asked to draw a map of the world on the first day of class. We weren't allowed to use any references during the exercise. The shit that was produced was too funny to believe. Most maps omitted entire continents.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 16:57:42
April 10 2014 16:47 GMT
#8120
http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1068259.html
http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/its-thanksgiving-so-we-asked-some-brits-to-label-the-us-stat

People usually don't remember what they learned in geography class when they were in 3rd grade that they never saw again that has zero impact on their personal lives or their employment as adults. People don't remember things that aren't important to them. Nobody running schools anywhere really thinks geography is that important, so almost nobody anywhere still remembers the 2 hours they spent on world geography when they were 8. But they are naive to the point of stupidity, participating in shit like this. No one asks you to pinpoint a country on a map unless they want to make fun of you for being stupid if you fail

Also:

http://www.geographyzone.com/new/index.php?t=1&b=2

Haha eat it Frenchies! And radiotren, my sincerest apologies on you living in a country apparently full of mouthbreathers. Meanwhile, my shame will never lessen after seeing...

135 North Korea
140 United States
145 France
159 Denmark

(also if you try to take this geography zone challenge thing it is really stupid and easy to misclick and get a wrong answer and SHAME YOUR COUNTRY FOREVER so be careful!)
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