Light and Flying retire - Page 13

On September 18 2013 04:57 sjukungen1 wrote:



Except they didn't change basketball to basketball 2 which made a lot of the current players lose interest in the game.

On September 18 2013 06:25 Grumbels wrote:

What if all baseball players were forced to switch to softball? (it's more accessible!)

On September 18 2013 06:37 SupLilSon wrote:

More applicable, imagine if they removed the 3-point line and made the hoop 5ft instead of 10... What would happen to all the centers who make their living on being tall? Or the players who's value comes from their 3-point shot?

Nvm, your analogy is perfectly fine also :D

On September 18 2013 05:34 lolfail9001 wrote:

It is true, but since there are no announcements of new players (keep it fair, who knew about Sora before WCG streak :D?) it looks all doom more than anything.

On September 18 2013 06:59 DinoToss wrote:

It looks doom and has some merit to it, cause people like Light and Flying were still vital part of their teams despite being on an edge of retirement. No it's more like without them it's the big loss to the team. Its not the "they are dead weight" it's rather, they are old and washed out or want to go but we need them.

Before 1 year passes it will be known if Korean scene is that bad in terms of new blood or not. In BW it was pretty visible when old guards retired and new guards took(TBLS JangBi, Fanta, and other top a-taemers started showing results within 1 year of each other, mostly). Current SC2 look is clouded because of Korean scene split and background noise which is foreign scene, which makes it harder to pinpoint the generation changes, than it was in monotheistic Kespa BW scene.

The other thing i wanted to mention is that, and in the purist's way is even more important than name changes, new people coming in and out. It is gameplay changes (or rather setting the bar higher) that happen when new blood enter the stream. The only magical "TBLS" of SC2 are probaly the three great early heroes, and im afraid the last one too are the MVP, MC and Nestea (with DRG spin off). They happened early, they punched heavily and the end.

It is pretty important to notice the difference between BW TBLS era which (imo) not coincidental with last and most skillful era of BW. And 3 kings of SC2 which not(imo) coincidental with start of SC2 Korean Scene. For me (call me negative nancy) not much changed when 150 old and new dogs entered the already established SC2 scene(Enter the Kespa). Im really reluctant to believe even the favored new youngins (i believe in progamer year theory, because it correlates nicely within BW and SC2 history) will change much. Yes military will come and take people, people will get bored, etc. And those people will be replaced with younger ones, but that's not the change we seek.

Further delving into the subject will be too much of a dead horse critisicm of SC2(look last MC woes), not a great topic to do that so but amazing analogy came to my mind.

Lets look at Nada, the most fruitful in terms of longevity character in BW. He started as Boxer rival, engaged into micro battles on 1 base, he transitioned into Iloveoov-Savior times and discovered the macro, on his last stand vs JangBi in MSL he copied the Flash build.

On September 18 2013 06:48 Phyanketto wrote:

These are both really good analogies. Watching Flash and Jaedong play SC2 is like watching Lebron James and Michael Jordan play middle-school basketball. And all the people in the audience have no respect for how fucking good they are.

On September 18 2013 06:48 Phyanketto wrote:

These are both really good analogies. Watching Flash and Jaedong play SC2 is like watching Lebron James and Michael Jordan play middle-school basketball. And all the people in the audience have no respect for how fucking good they are.

On September 18 2013 07:22 GTPGlitch wrote:


Uh, no, because middle school basketball is the same as normal basketball... Basket->baseball is a much better comparison

On September 18 2013 07:23 SupLilSon wrote:


Its more like going from Baseball to Teaball, similar game, just removes a lot of the skill which differentiates batters.

On September 18 2013 07:11 SupLilSon wrote:

Interesting post and I think a lot of people share the same sentiment. To me as a pretty uninformed noob, SC2 just doesn't seem to have the same depth or complexity as BW. So many units are designed for a specific role or a purpose, leaving little room for creativity and innovation. I wouldn't be surprised if the HotS metagame remains stagnant until Blizz patches something or LotV comes around.

On September 18 2013 08:13 PerSe wrote:
Whatever your opinions on SC2 might be, it isn't an easier game than BW, because the skill cap is still ridiculously high and nobody will reach it. That it happens to be easier to macro doesn't make the game ezpz, it just means the skill differentiation occurs in other areas of game play.

Having said that, there are some problems with the way SC2 seems to play out, that makes it less appealing to watch. The economy system, the way the units clump up, the posturing deathballs and then 5 sec battle that decides the game...