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Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 10:21:59
September 19 2013 10:21 GMT
#341
On September 19 2013 06:07 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 05:57 Taipoka wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:38 Cheren wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 00:48 iFU.pauline wrote:
I think this is a good news, if they could be more retirement in order to destroy sc2 scene and bring back brood war im all for it.

You must be naive that players retiring from sc2 will bring back bw. LoL already killed both.


SC2 is in a weird spot because it's the only RTS with a tournament circuit. So a lot of people who play/watch SC2 actually like the game, but a vocal minority hates it and only sticks around because there's nowhere else to go RTS-wise.

Yeah, though i understand bitterness of some BW elitists...

As if SC2 people aren´t elitists :D
"Our game is hardcore"
"That game is for casuals"
"Our game have older people. That game is for children".
And so on

I do find the discussions about SC2 vs LoL/Dota 2 to be shockingly similar to the ones about BW vs SC2. Its almost as all the same points are made and both arguments are about as pointless.

Nice point. Its all of the same.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
September 19 2013 10:48 GMT
#342
On September 19 2013 06:07 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 05:57 Taipoka wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:38 Cheren wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 00:48 iFU.pauline wrote:
I think this is a good news, if they could be more retirement in order to destroy sc2 scene and bring back brood war im all for it.

You must be naive that players retiring from sc2 will bring back bw. LoL already killed both.


SC2 is in a weird spot because it's the only RTS with a tournament circuit. So a lot of people who play/watch SC2 actually like the game, but a vocal minority hates it and only sticks around because there's nowhere else to go RTS-wise.

Yeah, though i understand bitterness of some BW elitists...

As if SC2 people aren´t elitists :D
"Our game is hardcore"
"That game is for casuals"
"Our game have older people. That game is for children".
And so on

I do find the discussions about SC2 vs LoL/Dota 2 to be shockingly similar to the ones about BW vs SC2. Its almost as all the same points are made and both arguments are about as pointless.

I don't think so.
SC2 vs BW. People were shitting on SC2.
LoL/Dota vs SC2. People are still shitting on SC2, though LoL gets some too.
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
September 19 2013 12:07 GMT
#343
damn i really liked flying. one of my favored protosses for sure. i especially loved that proleague game where he wiped the floor with innovation

goodluck to the both of them!
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 19 2013 12:11 GMT
#344
On September 19 2013 19:48 saddaromma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 06:07 Plansix wrote:
On September 19 2013 05:57 Taipoka wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:38 Cheren wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 00:48 iFU.pauline wrote:
I think this is a good news, if they could be more retirement in order to destroy sc2 scene and bring back brood war im all for it.

You must be naive that players retiring from sc2 will bring back bw. LoL already killed both.


SC2 is in a weird spot because it's the only RTS with a tournament circuit. So a lot of people who play/watch SC2 actually like the game, but a vocal minority hates it and only sticks around because there's nowhere else to go RTS-wise.

Yeah, though i understand bitterness of some BW elitists...

As if SC2 people aren´t elitists :D
"Our game is hardcore"
"That game is for casuals"
"Our game have older people. That game is for children".
And so on

I do find the discussions about SC2 vs LoL/Dota 2 to be shockingly similar to the ones about BW vs SC2. Its almost as all the same points are made and both arguments are about as pointless.

I don't think so.
SC2 vs BW. People were shitting on SC2.
LoL/Dota vs SC2. People are still shitting on SC2, though LoL gets some too.

You mean The guys who like BW and it's korean scene shit on SC2, the guys who like SC2 are fine with BW (it's a different game, and good one too!).
They guys who like MOBAs do not give a hell about SC2 (after all they are playing The Casual Trend) and SC2 fans are butthurt. After all the only thing similar about those arguments that are actually pointless.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
September 19 2013 13:50 GMT
#345
On September 19 2013 21:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 19:48 saddaromma wrote:
On September 19 2013 06:07 Plansix wrote:
On September 19 2013 05:57 Taipoka wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:38 Cheren wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 00:48 iFU.pauline wrote:
I think this is a good news, if they could be more retirement in order to destroy sc2 scene and bring back brood war im all for it.

You must be naive that players retiring from sc2 will bring back bw. LoL already killed both.


SC2 is in a weird spot because it's the only RTS with a tournament circuit. So a lot of people who play/watch SC2 actually like the game, but a vocal minority hates it and only sticks around because there's nowhere else to go RTS-wise.

Yeah, though i understand bitterness of some BW elitists...

As if SC2 people aren´t elitists :D
"Our game is hardcore"
"That game is for casuals"
"Our game have older people. That game is for children".
And so on

I do find the discussions about SC2 vs LoL/Dota 2 to be shockingly similar to the ones about BW vs SC2. Its almost as all the same points are made and both arguments are about as pointless.

I don't think so.
SC2 vs BW. People were shitting on SC2.
LoL/Dota vs SC2. People are still shitting on SC2, though LoL gets some too.

You mean The guys who like BW and it's korean scene shit on SC2, the guys who like SC2 are fine with BW (it's a different game, and good one too!).
They guys who like MOBAs do not give a hell about SC2 (after all they are playing The Casual Trend) and SC2 fans are butthurt. After all the only thing similar about those arguments that are actually pointless.

what arguments are you refering to?
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
September 19 2013 17:47 GMT
#346
On September 19 2013 22:50 saddaromma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 21:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 19:48 saddaromma wrote:
On September 19 2013 06:07 Plansix wrote:
On September 19 2013 05:57 Taipoka wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:38 Cheren wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 00:48 iFU.pauline wrote:
I think this is a good news, if they could be more retirement in order to destroy sc2 scene and bring back brood war im all for it.

You must be naive that players retiring from sc2 will bring back bw. LoL already killed both.


SC2 is in a weird spot because it's the only RTS with a tournament circuit. So a lot of people who play/watch SC2 actually like the game, but a vocal minority hates it and only sticks around because there's nowhere else to go RTS-wise.

Yeah, though i understand bitterness of some BW elitists...

As if SC2 people aren´t elitists :D
"Our game is hardcore"
"That game is for casuals"
"Our game have older people. That game is for children".
And so on

I do find the discussions about SC2 vs LoL/Dota 2 to be shockingly similar to the ones about BW vs SC2. Its almost as all the same points are made and both arguments are about as pointless.

I don't think so.
SC2 vs BW. People were shitting on SC2.
LoL/Dota vs SC2. People are still shitting on SC2, though LoL gets some too.

You mean The guys who like BW and it's korean scene shit on SC2, the guys who like SC2 are fine with BW (it's a different game, and good one too!).
They guys who like MOBAs do not give a hell about SC2 (after all they are playing The Casual Trend) and SC2 fans are butthurt. After all the only thing similar about those arguments that are actually pointless.

what arguments are you refering to?

This game is harder than that game.
This game is for children that is for adults.
This game is for casuals, that is for hardcore.
This game needs more mechanics than that game.
...

All pointless.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 19 2013 17:52 GMT
#347
On September 20 2013 02:47 Taipoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 22:50 saddaromma wrote:
On September 19 2013 21:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 19:48 saddaromma wrote:
On September 19 2013 06:07 Plansix wrote:
On September 19 2013 05:57 Taipoka wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:38 Cheren wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 00:48 iFU.pauline wrote:
I think this is a good news, if they could be more retirement in order to destroy sc2 scene and bring back brood war im all for it.

You must be naive that players retiring from sc2 will bring back bw. LoL already killed both.


SC2 is in a weird spot because it's the only RTS with a tournament circuit. So a lot of people who play/watch SC2 actually like the game, but a vocal minority hates it and only sticks around because there's nowhere else to go RTS-wise.

Yeah, though i understand bitterness of some BW elitists...

As if SC2 people aren´t elitists :D
"Our game is hardcore"
"That game is for casuals"
"Our game have older people. That game is for children".
And so on

I do find the discussions about SC2 vs LoL/Dota 2 to be shockingly similar to the ones about BW vs SC2. Its almost as all the same points are made and both arguments are about as pointless.

I don't think so.
SC2 vs BW. People were shitting on SC2.
LoL/Dota vs SC2. People are still shitting on SC2, though LoL gets some too.

You mean The guys who like BW and it's korean scene shit on SC2, the guys who like SC2 are fine with BW (it's a different game, and good one too!).
They guys who like MOBAs do not give a hell about SC2 (after all they are playing The Casual Trend) and SC2 fans are butthurt. After all the only thing similar about those arguments that are actually pointless.

what arguments are you refering to?

This game is harder than that game.
This game is for children that is for adults.
This game is for casuals, that is for hardcore.
This game needs more mechanics than that game.
...

All pointless.

The endless argument that "My game is better than your game. Its FACT. Let me tell you all the reasons it is FACT and then cite some reasons why your game is targeted a casuals(AKA, people who don't play my game because they aren't hard enough)."

The endless and pointless discussion from people trying to shit on others good time. Cause its the internet.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
September 19 2013 18:44 GMT
#348
On September 20 2013 02:47 Taipoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 22:50 saddaromma wrote:
On September 19 2013 21:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 19:48 saddaromma wrote:
On September 19 2013 06:07 Plansix wrote:
On September 19 2013 05:57 Taipoka wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:38 Cheren wrote:
On September 19 2013 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 19 2013 00:48 iFU.pauline wrote:
I think this is a good news, if they could be more retirement in order to destroy sc2 scene and bring back brood war im all for it.

You must be naive that players retiring from sc2 will bring back bw. LoL already killed both.


SC2 is in a weird spot because it's the only RTS with a tournament circuit. So a lot of people who play/watch SC2 actually like the game, but a vocal minority hates it and only sticks around because there's nowhere else to go RTS-wise.

Yeah, though i understand bitterness of some BW elitists...

As if SC2 people aren´t elitists :D
"Our game is hardcore"
"That game is for casuals"
"Our game have older people. That game is for children".
And so on

I do find the discussions about SC2 vs LoL/Dota 2 to be shockingly similar to the ones about BW vs SC2. Its almost as all the same points are made and both arguments are about as pointless.

I don't think so.
SC2 vs BW. People were shitting on SC2.
LoL/Dota vs SC2. People are still shitting on SC2, though LoL gets some too.

You mean The guys who like BW and it's korean scene shit on SC2, the guys who like SC2 are fine with BW (it's a different game, and good one too!).
They guys who like MOBAs do not give a hell about SC2 (after all they are playing The Casual Trend) and SC2 fans are butthurt. After all the only thing similar about those arguments that are actually pointless.

what arguments are you refering to?

This game is harder than that game.
This game is for children that is for adults.
This game is for casuals, that is for hardcore.
This game needs more mechanics than that game.
...

All pointless.


These were the major points of BW fans when SC2 came out. But they're kinda rare now.
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
September 20 2013 00:16 GMT
#349
Noble reasons to retire. Good luck to them both!
I'm terranfying
QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
September 20 2013 02:00 GMT
#350
To study English? I thought being part of an international community is best way to learn quickly anyway, rather than actually learning of tutors / classes. Koreans afraid of speaking broken English or something, there no learning a language without using it.
Best of luck anyways
I bought a pack of cigarettes for $20, What have you done for your country today?
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 20 2013 02:10 GMT
#351
On September 20 2013 11:00 QuackPocketDuck wrote:
To study English? I thought being part of an international community is best way to learn quickly anyway, rather than actually learning of tutors / classes. Koreans afraid of speaking broken English or something, there no learning a language without using it.
Best of luck anyways


Time issue at hands.

2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
September 20 2013 02:21 GMT
#352
On September 20 2013 11:10 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 11:00 QuackPocketDuck wrote:
To study English? I thought being part of an international community is best way to learn quickly anyway, rather than actually learning of tutors / classes. Koreans afraid of speaking broken English or something, there no learning a language without using it.
Best of luck anyways


Time issue at hands.


MC addressed this point very well you might want to go have a look
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 20 2013 02:32 GMT
#353
On September 20 2013 11:21 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 11:10 Xiphos wrote:
On September 20 2013 11:00 QuackPocketDuck wrote:
To study English? I thought being part of an international community is best way to learn quickly anyway, rather than actually learning of tutors / classes. Koreans afraid of speaking broken English or something, there no learning a language without using it.
Best of luck anyways


Time issue at hands.


MC addressed this point very well you might want to go have a look


Then again MC is from a non-Korean organization. Check out "State of Play" and see how they get ahead in competition in Star's house.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1602 Posts
September 20 2013 08:21 GMT
#354
Light[aLive]
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
September 20 2013 23:30 GMT
#355
nooo flying i fucking loved watching that dude play, he did some mental builds!
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
broodwar2.0
Profile Joined October 2013
Niue229 Posts
January 28 2014 23:08 GMT
#356
yes i bump this : any news on flying ?? how he will continue in esports othergames / afreeca ? or just look for an other occupation
do you feel unfulfilled , unhappy and unsuccessful in real-life? here is your chance become a TL-Forum admin. so you can be a online keyboard-warrior, pretending to be a hotshot
Fisherr
Profile Joined May 2023
2 Posts
May 04 2023 10:19 GMT
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