• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:27
CEST 18:27
KST 01:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down0StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?178Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Remastered crash fix suggestions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8517 users

Light and Flying retire - Page 12

Forum Index > Closed
356 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 18 Next All
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 17 2013 18:16 GMT
#221
Nooooo Flying was my favorite unorthodox toss.
Miss you dood.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
September 17 2013 18:22 GMT
#222
On September 18 2013 01:08 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 01:06 Kal_rA wrote:
Fav game of light:



LOL Queens for days :D + Show Spoiler +
come back to bw jaedong!


this would be mine :D





I never played BW multiplayer but that game just makes me want to live the BW times. No wonder the pros quit when you see the games they used to play. Stuff like that doesn´t exist in SC2 :<
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
September 17 2013 18:28 GMT
#223
On September 18 2013 02:32 Canucklehead wrote:
Someone put an endangered species sign up because elephants are being hunted to extinction!

yeah we have a gstl with what? 4 teams? including soul and Azubu who will break up any day.its sc2, not kespa.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
September 17 2013 18:36 GMT
#224
On September 18 2013 02:12 Crisium wrote:
Light is the best TvZ player to never win a SL, certainly. But his TvP was always considered sub par, and his TvT was only good; rarely great.

Best Terrans to never win a SL, I'd say:

1. Sea
2. Midas
3. Light
4. Iris

Light's really only known for his TvZ, but my god that TvZ...

Unspoiler for awesomeness:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


The only blip was a 9 game (!!) TvZ span where he only played JD and still went an impressive 4-5 against the Tyrant.

Light was awesome, one of the few terrans that go full bio against zerg when every other terrans will do the bio to mech switch.
GeNi
Profile Joined November 2012
United States49 Posts
September 17 2013 18:41 GMT
#225
People need to understand that players retire and that does not mean that the "scene is dead" or sc2 is "dying". When Michael Jordan retired, Basketball did not die. New, younger players rose and the scene is the same as when he played. Sc2 will see younger players rise and help the scene of sc2. The transition from having legends/old bw players retire is necessary if new legends are to be made.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 17 2013 18:42 GMT
#226
Light retiring doesn't surprise me much, although I would have expected him to maybe stay in esports, was one of my favorite BW players D:

But Flying D:::: There were moments when he clearly grasped the game and was up there with the best Toss after release but recently he has been kinda meh in PL. It's a shame because his playstyle was original, I never really followed him in BW but best of luck to both!
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
September 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#227
On September 18 2013 01:08 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 01:06 Kal_rA wrote:
Fav game of light: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7oIgkT9qfo


LOL Queens for days :D + Show Spoiler +
come back to bw jaedong!


this would be mine :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzPiDOh9430


Jaedong infests 2nd command center
Light: poker face

Tempest's goon takes 30+ marines
Light: poker face

Good ol' light.
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
September 17 2013 18:46 GMT
#228
All the broodwar players
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
September 17 2013 18:48 GMT
#229
not too upset, although these two were always pretty decent (especially light, fucked up my fantasy one too many times).
The universe created an audience for itself.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 17 2013 19:53 GMT
#230
There are just way too many players in the Korean SC2 scene, of course there will be a big amount of retirements. Everything will work out fine and hopefully we are adding more BW players back to the ranks too. =D
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
September 17 2013 19:55 GMT
#231
We've been getting a lot of these as of late, it seems. Of course, it's entirely to be expected given things like the massive oversaturation of Korea and the stress of transitioning games, but still, I wouldn't have expected the highly organized KeSPA to take the brunt of the losses so far.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
sjukungen1
Profile Joined November 2006
Burkina Faso59 Posts
September 17 2013 19:57 GMT
#232
On September 18 2013 03:41 GeNi wrote:
People need to understand that players retire and that does not mean that the "scene is dead" or sc2 is "dying". When Michael Jordan retired, Basketball did not die. New, younger players rose and the scene is the same as when he played. Sc2 will see younger players rise and help the scene of sc2. The transition from having legends/old bw players retire is necessary if new legends are to be made.



Except they didn't change basketball to basketball 2 which made a lot of the current players lose interest in the game.
lol
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
September 17 2013 20:08 GMT
#233
Aww, what a shame. I like Flying. Sad to see him go.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
September 17 2013 20:09 GMT
#234
i posted it in the last threat, i expect even more retires, its like the contracts run out and old bw pros who doesnt do as well in sc2 wont continute playing
ITS SO SAD
i loved light and i SUPER LOVED flying
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
IMR
Profile Joined May 2013
70 Posts
September 17 2013 20:15 GMT
#235
his wraith game vs jaedong was spectacular. it'll live on for quite some time in digital form but in a few years nobody will understand any of it as the annual view counts hit single digits.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
September 17 2013 20:19 GMT
#236
Light to stream BW, please!!
JD is BONJWA!
Intricate
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada127 Posts
September 17 2013 20:20 GMT
#237
wdf is up with all this bad news and announcements lately... so depressing T.T"
"We all live inside of NesTea's dream" - Artosis
Frumpysnoo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States247 Posts
September 17 2013 20:29 GMT
#238
Old players leave, new players come. It's the way things have always been, and it will continue to happen. It's nice to reminisce the times of players that were once great, but them leaving is not all loom and gloom. Best of luck to them both!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#239
On September 18 2013 05:29 Frumpysnoo wrote:
Old players leave, new players come. It's the way things have always been, and it will continue to happen. It's nice to reminisce the times of players that were once great, but them leaving is not all loom and gloom. Best of luck to them both!

It is true, but since there are no announcements of new players (keep it fair, who knew about Sora before WCG streak :D?) it looks all doom more than anything.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
September 17 2013 20:37 GMT
#240
On September 18 2013 04:57 sjukungen1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 03:41 GeNi wrote:
People need to understand that players retire and that does not mean that the "scene is dead" or sc2 is "dying". When Michael Jordan retired, Basketball did not die. New, younger players rose and the scene is the same as when he played. Sc2 will see younger players rise and help the scene of sc2. The transition from having legends/old bw players retire is necessary if new legends are to be made.



Except they didn't change basketball to basketball 2 which made a lot of the current players lose interest in the game.

Haha nice shot. 3 points for you. :D
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech135
BRAT_OK 77
SHIN 70
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 27004
Bisu 2298
Jaedong 1833
Soulkey 809
BeSt 405
Horang2 371
Mini 366
Soma 301
Rush 261
Stork 211
[ Show more ]
Larva 209
ggaemo 194
HiyA 150
firebathero 145
Shine 135
Dewaltoss 102
hero 100
Barracks 62
Zeus 60
Killer 46
soO 39
sorry 28
PianO 26
Terrorterran 26
Sexy 22
ToSsGirL 21
Trap 20
sSak 17
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
scan(afreeca) 11
Noble 8
zelot 7
Sacsri 3
Dota 2
syndereN685
420jenkins389
Counter-Strike
fl0m955
ceh9368
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King82
C9.Mang026
Other Games
Grubby12223
singsing2199
Liquid`RaSZi1249
hiko924
Beastyqt516
FrodaN479
DeMusliM177
ArmadaUGS121
TKL 81
XaKoH 53
QueenE44
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1169
WardiTV164
BasetradeTV49
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile153
• StrangeGG 48
• Hinosc 22
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV872
League of Legends
• Nemesis2267
• TFBlade888
Other Games
• Shiphtur138
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
7h 33m
The PondCast
17h 33m
Kung Fu Cup
18h 33m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
KCM Race Survival
1d 17h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 18h
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.