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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 17 2013 18:16 GMT
#221
Nooooo Flying was my favorite unorthodox toss.
Miss you dood.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
September 17 2013 18:22 GMT
#222
On September 18 2013 01:08 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 01:06 Kal_rA wrote:
Fav game of light:



LOL Queens for days :D + Show Spoiler +
come back to bw jaedong!


this would be mine :D





I never played BW multiplayer but that game just makes me want to live the BW times. No wonder the pros quit when you see the games they used to play. Stuff like that doesn´t exist in SC2 :<
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5594 Posts
September 17 2013 18:28 GMT
#223
On September 18 2013 02:32 Canucklehead wrote:
Someone put an endangered species sign up because elephants are being hunted to extinction!

yeah we have a gstl with what? 4 teams? including soul and Azubu who will break up any day.its sc2, not kespa.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
September 17 2013 18:36 GMT
#224
On September 18 2013 02:12 Crisium wrote:
Light is the best TvZ player to never win a SL, certainly. But his TvP was always considered sub par, and his TvT was only good; rarely great.

Best Terrans to never win a SL, I'd say:

1. Sea
2. Midas
3. Light
4. Iris

Light's really only known for his TvZ, but my god that TvZ...

Unspoiler for awesomeness:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


The only blip was a 9 game (!!) TvZ span where he only played JD and still went an impressive 4-5 against the Tyrant.

Light was awesome, one of the few terrans that go full bio against zerg when every other terrans will do the bio to mech switch.
GeNi
Profile Joined November 2012
United States49 Posts
September 17 2013 18:41 GMT
#225
People need to understand that players retire and that does not mean that the "scene is dead" or sc2 is "dying". When Michael Jordan retired, Basketball did not die. New, younger players rose and the scene is the same as when he played. Sc2 will see younger players rise and help the scene of sc2. The transition from having legends/old bw players retire is necessary if new legends are to be made.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 17 2013 18:42 GMT
#226
Light retiring doesn't surprise me much, although I would have expected him to maybe stay in esports, was one of my favorite BW players D:

But Flying D:::: There were moments when he clearly grasped the game and was up there with the best Toss after release but recently he has been kinda meh in PL. It's a shame because his playstyle was original, I never really followed him in BW but best of luck to both!
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
September 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#227
On September 18 2013 01:08 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 01:06 Kal_rA wrote:
Fav game of light: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7oIgkT9qfo


LOL Queens for days :D + Show Spoiler +
come back to bw jaedong!


this would be mine :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzPiDOh9430


Jaedong infests 2nd command center
Light: poker face

Tempest's goon takes 30+ marines
Light: poker face

Good ol' light.
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
September 17 2013 18:46 GMT
#228
All the broodwar players
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
September 17 2013 18:48 GMT
#229
not too upset, although these two were always pretty decent (especially light, fucked up my fantasy one too many times).
The universe created an audience for itself.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 17 2013 19:53 GMT
#230
There are just way too many players in the Korean SC2 scene, of course there will be a big amount of retirements. Everything will work out fine and hopefully we are adding more BW players back to the ranks too. =D
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
September 17 2013 19:55 GMT
#231
We've been getting a lot of these as of late, it seems. Of course, it's entirely to be expected given things like the massive oversaturation of Korea and the stress of transitioning games, but still, I wouldn't have expected the highly organized KeSPA to take the brunt of the losses so far.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
sjukungen1
Profile Joined November 2006
Burkina Faso59 Posts
September 17 2013 19:57 GMT
#232
On September 18 2013 03:41 GeNi wrote:
People need to understand that players retire and that does not mean that the "scene is dead" or sc2 is "dying". When Michael Jordan retired, Basketball did not die. New, younger players rose and the scene is the same as when he played. Sc2 will see younger players rise and help the scene of sc2. The transition from having legends/old bw players retire is necessary if new legends are to be made.



Except they didn't change basketball to basketball 2 which made a lot of the current players lose interest in the game.
lol
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
September 17 2013 20:08 GMT
#233
Aww, what a shame. I like Flying. Sad to see him go.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
September 17 2013 20:09 GMT
#234
i posted it in the last threat, i expect even more retires, its like the contracts run out and old bw pros who doesnt do as well in sc2 wont continute playing
ITS SO SAD
i loved light and i SUPER LOVED flying
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
IMR
Profile Joined May 2013
70 Posts
September 17 2013 20:15 GMT
#235
his wraith game vs jaedong was spectacular. it'll live on for quite some time in digital form but in a few years nobody will understand any of it as the annual view counts hit single digits.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
September 17 2013 20:19 GMT
#236
Light to stream BW, please!!
JD is BONJWA!
Intricate
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada127 Posts
September 17 2013 20:20 GMT
#237
wdf is up with all this bad news and announcements lately... so depressing T.T"
"We all live inside of NesTea's dream" - Artosis
Frumpysnoo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States247 Posts
September 17 2013 20:29 GMT
#238
Old players leave, new players come. It's the way things have always been, and it will continue to happen. It's nice to reminisce the times of players that were once great, but them leaving is not all loom and gloom. Best of luck to them both!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#239
On September 18 2013 05:29 Frumpysnoo wrote:
Old players leave, new players come. It's the way things have always been, and it will continue to happen. It's nice to reminisce the times of players that were once great, but them leaving is not all loom and gloom. Best of luck to them both!

It is true, but since there are no announcements of new players (keep it fair, who knew about Sora before WCG streak :D?) it looks all doom more than anything.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
September 17 2013 20:37 GMT
#240
On September 18 2013 04:57 sjukungen1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 03:41 GeNi wrote:
People need to understand that players retire and that does not mean that the "scene is dead" or sc2 is "dying". When Michael Jordan retired, Basketball did not die. New, younger players rose and the scene is the same as when he played. Sc2 will see younger players rise and help the scene of sc2. The transition from having legends/old bw players retire is necessary if new legends are to be made.



Except they didn't change basketball to basketball 2 which made a lot of the current players lose interest in the game.

Haha nice shot. 3 points for you. :D
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
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