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People clearly don't always play on their home server. Every one of my games is now flooded with Spanish speakers from Mexico/Latin America. They refuse to talk in English (I actually speak some Spanish but they have like 15 different countries/versions here), generally feed uncontrollably, and group report you for being a gringo.
I can't count how many of my games in the last few weeks have been ruined by Spanish speaking players on THE AMERICAN SERVERS. Where is the issue in region locking the game? If you're not going to make a Spanish language setting (for the second most spoken language in the world, and let's be honest, it doesn't force them to choose their own language) then action needs to be taken.
QQ nerd tears I can't play with my friends/favorite pros from other regions. Oh well, now 65% of my games aren't ruined from minute 1. While you're at it, do the same for Russians in Europe as I believe nobody enjoys playing with them either from what I hear.
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United States42885 Posts
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language.
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iom pretty sure no one has ever enjoyed a game of dota ever so you might want to give up on that
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Region locking would totally suck.
No1 wants it.
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> Why isn't Dota2 region locked?
So, I speak fluent English, I coordinate and play my best to help my team and I have tons of international friends, but because you can't handle a couple spanish speakers on an international game I'm not allowed to queue with my friends?
Dota2 needs good latin servers not located in Brazil(because the brazilian servers have awful routing to the rest of latin america), that's it.
Also, from my experience, it's been a long time since I've seen a spanish speaker on USE that "ruined" the game for speaking spanish. Most of the time, the guy ruining the game is the jerk complaining about the spanish speaker. And it's been a REALLY long time since I've seen annoying brazilians on USE as well - most of them prefer to play on 50ms ping on SA server rather than 180ms and english speakers.
And don't act like USE/USW are servers exclusive to the US. Or do you really expect Mexicans to queue to south-america, on an arguably farther server?
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Weird, I didn't realize americans didn't speak spanish.
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region lock is usually due to copyright/sales laws. Region locking is bad for the reasons Kwark listed above. But I agree that something needs to be done about the language thing...for communication reasons.
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It's really annoying that americans insist on playing on THE AMERICAN SERVER. I wonder why they refuse to play on THE EUROPEAN SERVER or even THE AUSTRALIAN SERVER.
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On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language.
I agree. I hate the idea of region locking.
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After the filter by language option was implemented i very rarely get people who don't speak some kind of english.
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On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language.
Do you think playing with friends is more important than more than half of my games being ruined because on an English server, with English language selected, players refuse to speak English?
How exactly do I deal with a problem when it is ruining over half my games. I guess dealing with it just means accepting the fact half the time you play your games is ruined. And I'm really not exaggerating on the percentage of games this happens in either.
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iom pretty sure no one has ever enjoyed a game of dota ever so you might want to give up on that
This.
No but seriously valve needs to add a portuguese and spanish filters, a large body of people in north america natively speak these languages and are ruining english matchmaking for other people by not speaking english and queuing for it.
I find that my mmr is high enough that I don't get anyone like this when I soloqueue, I usually get a bunch of other native english speakers. However, whenever I queue with my friends who (generally) are lower skilled I get a roster full of "hueuheue".
Really I can handle this because I've played dota and HoN for a long time, but there's no reason it shouldn't be fixed. Especially with the new mute system it appears the foreigners pleading for reports from the other team often seems to get me muted. Highly obnoxious to win a lane, almost carry your team, lose, and then receive a mute just because 6/10 players in the game can all "huehuehueheu" down the street to the report button together.
Region locking is equally fucking retarded though.
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United States42885 Posts
On June 03 2013 06:52 lizzuma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language. Do you think playing with friends is more important than more than half of my games being ruined because on an English server, with English language selected, players refuse to speak English? How exactly do I deal with a problem when it is ruining over half my games. I guess dealing with it just means accepting the fact half the time you play your games is ruined. And I'm really not exaggerating on the percentage of games this happens in either.
Absolutely. Playing with friends is the only reason I play.
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On June 03 2013 06:42 SKC wrote:
It's really annoying that americans insist on playing on THE AMERICAN SERVER. I wonder why they refuse to play on THE EUROPEAN SERVER or even THE AUSTRALIAN SERVER.
Technically speaking its not "The American server" or "North America West and East" , they're called United States West and East. But it's more their geography than who can play there obviously.
I haven't run into too many non English speaking teammates since the whole language select thing went in. Every once in a while there will be people from Mexico or Brazil that won't speak English. It does get frustrating usually. But I've played with some guys from Mexico or Brazil solo queue, no English, we shit talk each other and still end up winning so there were lulz and huehuehue's to be had at the end of the day anyway.
I most often play with a buddy who happens to be from Mexico. He can be helpful if translating is actually needed lol. But region locking is super dumb. It artificially puts limits on something that doesn't really need them. Check English and by and large the problem solves itself. There will always be the random game where you get some foreign guys that don't speak the language but they're few and far between.
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On June 03 2013 06:39 Zephirdd wrote:
> Why isn't Dota2 region locked?
So, I speak fluent English, I coordinate and play my best to help my team and I have tons of international friends, but because you can't handle a couple spanish speakers on an international game I'm not allowed to queue with my friends?
Dota2 needs good latin servers not located in Brazil(because the brazilian servers have awful routing to the rest of latin america), that's it.
Also, from my experience, it's been a long time since I've seen a spanish speaker on USE that "ruined" the game for speaking spanish. Most of the time, the guy ruining the game is the jerk complaining about the spanish speaker. And it's been a REALLY long time since I've seen annoying brazilians on USE as well - most of them prefer to play on 50ms ping on SA server rather than 180ms and english speakers.
And don't act like USE/USW are servers exclusive to the US. Or do you really expect Mexicans to queue to south-america, on an arguably farther server?
Why shouldnt they? Allows them to communicate better.
It's all about your perspective. For you of course Spanish speakers don't ruin games for other people. But when username JUAN (this happened to me yesterday) picks Spiritbreaker for the long lane solo and communicates exclusively with the other Spanish speaking friend in the party, ignoring the rest of the team the entire game, can't you see how this becomes a problem?
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On June 03 2013 06:52 lizzuma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language. Do you think playing with friends is more important than more than half of my games being ruined because on an English server, with English language selected, players refuse to speak English? How exactly do I deal with a problem when it is ruining over half my games. I guess dealing with it just means accepting the fact half the time you play your games is ruined. And I'm really not exaggerating on the percentage of games this happens in either.
Of course. Playing with friends is more important than anything else.
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On June 03 2013 06:53 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:52 lizzuma wrote:On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language. Do you think playing with friends is more important than more than half of my games being ruined because on an English server, with English language selected, players refuse to speak English? How exactly do I deal with a problem when it is ruining over half my games. I guess dealing with it just means accepting the fact half the time you play your games is ruined. And I'm really not exaggerating on the percentage of games this happens in either. Absolutely. Playing with friends is the only reason I play.
How many international friends do you usually play with? There's always going to be a loss in whatever scenario you choose. I honestly don't think losing inter-regional play capacity is more detrimental to DotA than fixing the language issue.
EDIT: Please keep in mind you're only hypothetically losing the ability to play with friends outside your region. Everyone on my friends list plays on USE/W.
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On June 03 2013 06:52 lizzuma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language. Do you think playing with friends is more important than more than half of my games being ruined because on an English server, with English language selected, players refuse to speak English? How exactly do I deal with a problem when it is ruining over half my games. I guess dealing with it just means accepting the fact half the time you play your games is ruined. And I'm really not exaggerating on the percentage of games this happens in either.
Yes. You deal with it by accepting that playing with people that don't speak your native language is possible, that people have been doing that with few issues for ages, and that people from other countries are not inferior players just because of the language they speak. As others have posted, it's clear not everyone thinks it's such a big deal.
Btw, it's not an English Server, it's a server located on USE. Selecting English is meaningless if they don't speak Chinese or Russian. I wonder what you think these players should be doing instead.
The closer server cluster to a big portion of latin america is on USE, so if they region locked it today, with no other changes, you would still have people speaking spanish in it. If they did it by latency, basically all spanish speakers would be playing on USE.
What really boggles my mind is that you are not even suggesting the creation of a spanish server, you just want to get rid of them in your precious server. I wonder what would be your reaction if they banned english speakers from USE, keeping them restricted to USW, and make USE the spanish server. What exactly do you suggest spanish speakers should do?
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On June 03 2013 06:56 lizzuma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:53 KwarK wrote:On June 03 2013 06:52 lizzuma wrote:On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language. Do you think playing with friends is more important than more than half of my games being ruined because on an English server, with English language selected, players refuse to speak English? How exactly do I deal with a problem when it is ruining over half my games. I guess dealing with it just means accepting the fact half the time you play your games is ruined. And I'm really not exaggerating on the percentage of games this happens in either. Absolutely. Playing with friends is the only reason I play. How many international friends do you usually play with? There's always going to be a loss in whatever scenario you choose. I honestly don't think losing inter-regional play capacity is more detrimental to DotA than fixing the language issue. EDIT: Please keep in mind you're only hypothetically losing the ability to play with friends outside your region. Everyone on my friends list plays on USE/W.
I like how every argument is about YOU, without thinking about other people. It's all about your perspective it seems.
Tell me, what should Juan, the Mexican, who has 40ms ping to USW/USE but has 200 to SA, do? Pick the Spanish language and queue to the MX server? Oh wait.
Also I don't speak Spanish, so I'm on the same boat as you when a spanish speaker queues to USE. I am Brazilian, and we speak Portuguese(with obligatory learning of English on most schools; I always wonder if you guys have that for other languages), and no, Portuguese is nowhere close to Spanish to understand what they say.
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I have only the Australian server selected but I often end up playing with chinese, korean and other SEA players and at the end of the day? They're just as good as any other dota players. Usually they speak just enough english to understand "go here", "gank now" etc, and that's all you need.
Sounds like OP is a madbad gringo feeder? 
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On June 03 2013 06:30 lizzuma wrote:
People clearly don't always play on their home server. Every one of my games is now flooded with Spanish speakers from Mexico/Latin America. They refuse to talk in English (I actually speak some Spanish but they have like 15 different countries/versions here), generally feed uncontrollably, and group report you for being a gringo.
I can't count how many of my games in the last few weeks have been ruined by Spanish speaking players on THE AMERICAN SERVERS. Where is the issue in region locking the game? If you're not going to make a Spanish language setting (for the second most spoken language in the world, and let's be honest, it doesn't force them to choose their own language) then action needs to be taken.
QQ nerd tears I can't play with my friends/favorite pros from other regions. Oh well, now 65% of my games aren't ruined from minute 1. While you're at it, do the same for Russians in Europe as I believe nobody enjoys playing with them either from what I hear.
Isn't Spanish the 4th most spoken language (saying that it's the 2nd makes it seem like you only know about America)?
Valve still also has to consider the player population language distribution for matching too. That's why there are Chinese, English, and Russian choices.
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On June 03 2013 07:19 Pseudoku wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:30 lizzuma wrote:
People clearly don't always play on their home server. Every one of my games is now flooded with Spanish speakers from Mexico/Latin America. They refuse to talk in English (I actually speak some Spanish but they have like 15 different countries/versions here), generally feed uncontrollably, and group report you for being a gringo.
I can't count how many of my games in the last few weeks have been ruined by Spanish speaking players on THE AMERICAN SERVERS. Where is the issue in region locking the game? If you're not going to make a Spanish language setting (for the second most spoken language in the world, and let's be honest, it doesn't force them to choose their own language) then action needs to be taken.
QQ nerd tears I can't play with my friends/favorite pros from other regions. Oh well, now 65% of my games aren't ruined from minute 1. While you're at it, do the same for Russians in Europe as I believe nobody enjoys playing with them either from what I hear.
Isn't Spanish the 4th most spoken language (saying that it's the 2nd makes it seem like you only know about America)? Valve still also has to consider the player population language distribution for matching too. That's why there are Chinese, English, and Russian choices.
Regarding native speakers, it's the second most spoken language, but it's only slightly ahead of english. It's hard to estimate the actual number of speakers though, english is likely ahead of spanish since it is the most common second language people learn, so it should be at least third or lower.
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As long as they speak enough english to properly communicate
(which most do), who cares? It's definitely frustrating when they speak 0 english, and do things that impact the game negatively, but dont understand the english that goes along with them. (for example, single pulling, pushing the creep wave when not intending to push the tower), but I can't say I blame them for queuing the server that results in the most acceptable playing conditions.
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Russian Federation4050 Posts
Two things never change in Dota 2:
- constant begging for a new hero
- constant whining about russians/brazillians/spanish(O_O) and demanding of a "forced seperate server"/"region blocking".
Even though new heroes will eventually be added, I will have to disappoint you - russians/brazillians/spanish will be everywhere, just get used to this thought and don't punish yourself with false hopes.
Every new (the same old) thread like this is still somewhat interesting to read though. The same people say the same words, it's amusing.
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On June 03 2013 07:26 Leyra wrote:
As long as they speak enough english to properly communicate
(which most do), who cares? It's definitely frustrating when they speak 0 english, and do things that impact the game negatively, but dont understand the english that goes along with them. (for example, single pulling, pushing the creep wave when not intending to push the tower), but I can't say I blame them for queuing the server that results in the most acceptable playing conditions.
Since the chat wheel auto-translates, you don't need to even speak any english as long as you use it. It does get frustrating when you can't communicate with people, but valve only has 3 language options currently. It does however get frustrating when people try and communicate with languages I don't know and do things that I would normally ask them not to do, but can't even nicely say something about it.
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On June 03 2013 06:56 lizzuma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:53 KwarK wrote:On June 03 2013 06:52 lizzuma wrote:On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language. Do you think playing with friends is more important than more than half of my games being ruined because on an English server, with English language selected, players refuse to speak English? How exactly do I deal with a problem when it is ruining over half my games. I guess dealing with it just means accepting the fact half the time you play your games is ruined. And I'm really not exaggerating on the percentage of games this happens in either. Absolutely. Playing with friends is the only reason I play. How many international friends do you usually play with? There's always going to be a loss in whatever scenario you choose. I honestly don't think losing inter-regional play capacity is more detrimental to DotA than fixing the language issue. EDIT: Please keep in mind you're only hypothetically losing the ability to play with friends outside your region. Everyone on my friends list plays on USE/W.
I have more NA dota friends than European ones. Even if it meant non-english speaking players every time I solo queued, I'd keep being able to play with friends.
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
The moral of this thread is that lizzuma's friends all live in the same country as he does and he doesn't understand that this isn't the case for everyone else.
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On June 03 2013 07:44 Blazinghand wrote:
The moral of this thread is that lizzuma's friends all live in the same country as he does and he doesn't understand that this isn't the case for everyone else.
I think he understands that, he just doesn't care because it doesn't affect him.
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Region locking would be pretty ass, but i do want some kind of report function for people who, for instance, queue up on EU West and only speak russian.
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On June 03 2013 07:46 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 07:44 Blazinghand wrote:
The moral of this thread is that lizzuma's friends all live in the same country as he does and he doesn't understand that this isn't the case for everyone else. I think he understands that, he just doesn't care because it doesn't affect him.
Somehow I think that's actually worse.
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All DotA 2 servers are russian. It is known.
Seriously, locking them would be terrible, for the same reasons people bitched 3 years to get region unlock on sc2. Why couldn't you play with your American friends when you're European? It would just be cool if people dared use english at least for basic communication, but eh. It has gotten better recently, but for a while it was an exception to find an english speaker in a dota game.
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Here we go again, from Joindota to Teamliquid with no stops.
Do you want me to say how many times a "gringo" ruined my game because a good english speaker but native spanish speaker was playing "IN HIS SERVER OMG".
They check your profile and if you're not from US, bam! you're 1-muted 2-flamed to death 3-lost in desperation because they wont play, theyrefuse to play.
So, do you really believe they ruined your game? or you just want an scapegoat because you suck and you can OMGWTFBBQ carry 5v1 ?
Region locking is just stupid, with the total globalization of the world, you now have lots of options to communicate and make new online friends, have fun, and share interests, dota is about that too.
Last day i had a really awfull game when a "F!"·$ gringo" went "PATRIOTIC MODE, OMG! USA BEST AMERICA", and flamed an Argentinian who was playing in USE (because obviously brazil server has a shitty routing so unless you're from brazil you dont play there), communicating in ENGLISH, but said something to me in spanish, after all, game was lost, and i have the feeling you are just like that, a TIPICAL AMERICAN, heck, a Tipical United States Of America citizen who lacks common sense, proper education and sense of humanity, who thinks America is #Numbero uno and there's Europe and Russia, and thats it, Africa is "niggaplace" and Australia is "kangarooland".
So, think twice about how many times an "spanish speaker" shitted on your games, and how many times you ruined a game for your other 4 teammates.
BTW, send me the last 20 matches ID, i will personally watch them all and see if 10 of them were ruined by Spanish speakers.
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They should make you take a small spelling/grammar test when you select languages in dota...
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On June 03 2013 07:44 Blazinghand wrote:
The moral of this thread is that lizzuma's friends all live in the same country as he does and he doesn't understand that this isn't the case for everyone else.
I'm just tired of having my games ruined. I'm actually surprised to see it doesn't affect more of you. Like I said, I wasn't exaggerating when I said over 50% have been ruined. And I know the difference between "passable" english, or "passable," communication, and otherwise. Rarely do I play with the Spanish speaker who attempts to coordinate anything in English.
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On June 03 2013 08:08 DV G wrote:
Here we go again, from Joindota to Teamliquid with no stops.
Do you want me to say how many times a "gringo" ruined my game because a good english speaker but native spanish speaker was playing "IN HIS SERVER OMG".
They check your profile and if you're not from US, bam! you're 1-muted 2-flamed to death 3-lost in desperation because they wont play, theyrefuse to play.
So, do you really believe they ruined your game? or you just want an scapegoat because you suck and you can OMGWTFBBQ carry 5v1 ?
Region locking is just stupid, with the total globalization of the world, you now have lots of options to communicate and make new online friends, have fun, and share interests, dota is about that too.
Last day i had a really awfull game when a "F!"·$ gringo" went "PATRIOTIC MODE, OMG! USA BEST AMERICA", and flamed an Argentinian who was playing in USE (because obviously brazil server has a shitty routing so unless you're from brazil you dont play there), communicating in ENGLISH, but said something to me in spanish, after all, game was lost, and i have the feeling you are just like that, a TIPICAL AMERICAN, heck, a Tipical United States Of America citizen who lacks common sense, proper education and sense of humanity, who thinks America is #Numbero uno and there's Europe and Russia, and thats it, Africa is "niggaplace" and Australia is "kangarooland".
So, think twice about how many times an "spanish speaker" shitted on your games, and how many times you ruined a game for your other 4 teammates.
BTW, send me the last 20 matches ID, i will personally watch them all and see if 10 of them were ruined by Spanish speakers.
You sound a lot more xenophobic than me. I don't like America very much, but it annoys me when games are ruined because people refuse to try to communicate with others. Goes for other languages too. Thus I don't play on SEA servers, etc.
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I know how it feel lol, happens alot to me either. But I think region locking is not necessary  .
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On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language.
That would sure be nice.
Have they put Spanish in as a language option yet?
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I'm in the exact same situation, all my games are with spanish speakers (mostly peruvians or argentinians, since the brazilians have their own server). I have no idea why there's no spanish in the language option, I would really like to understand. I agree on the fact that the language barrier ruin games, but even though it ruins my games, It's not a reason to lock the regions, it's not the right solution at all. The best solution would be to create a new server in latin america and implant the spanish language option.
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On June 03 2013 08:08 DV G wrote:
Here we go again, from Joindota to Teamliquid with no stops.
Do you want me to say how many times a "gringo" ruined my game because a good english speaker but native spanish speaker was playing "IN HIS SERVER OMG".
They check your profile and if you're not from US, bam! you're 1-muted 2-flamed to death 3-lost in desperation because they wont play, theyrefuse to play.
So, do you really believe they ruined your game? or you just want an scapegoat because you suck and you can OMGWTFBBQ carry 5v1 ?
Region locking is just stupid, with the total globalization of the world, you now have lots of options to communicate and make new online friends, have fun, and share interests, dota is about that too.
Last day i had a really awfull game when a "F!"·$ gringo" went "PATRIOTIC MODE, OMG! USA BEST AMERICA", and flamed an Argentinian who was playing in USE (because obviously brazil server has a shitty routing so unless you're from brazil you dont play there), communicating in ENGLISH, but said something to me in spanish, after all, game was lost, and i have the feeling you are just like that, a TIPICAL AMERICAN, heck, a Tipical United States Of America citizen who lacks common sense, proper education and sense of humanity, who thinks America is #Numbero uno and there's Europe and Russia, and thats it, Africa is "niggaplace" and Australia is "kangarooland".
So, think twice about how many times an "spanish speaker" shitted on your games, and how many times you ruined a game for your other 4 teammates.
BTW, send me the last 20 matches ID, i will personally watch them all and see if 10 of them were ruined by Spanish speakers.
This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read in my life.
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On June 03 2013 08:40 Belisarius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:33 KwarK wrote:
Region locking is awful and would make playing with international friends, such as those on tl, considerably more difficult. The game shouldn't actively prevent people from playing it the way they want unless there is no alternative. In this case the alternatives are just dealing with language issues or perhaps some kind of report for not speaking the language they queued for which would put them with other people who all spoke the same language. That would sure be nice. Have they put Spanish in as a language option yet?
No, that would only apply to Russian, since chinese speakers aren't an issue as far as I know. Somehow I expect a lot of people would still report Spanish speakers even though it would be completelly unjustified, so I don't think it would be a good answer.
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Here is a textbook example of a game I just played ruined by Spanish speakers.
Team is AM, Tiny, SF, and the Spanish duo WR and ES.
SF goes mid, AM goes bot and they tell him to go top. I'm not dual laning with AM as tiny because thats retarded so I go bottom with WR and ES. If they spoke competent English, I could rationalize my choice and talk about the benefits of the trilane. Instead, "REPORTA A ESTE TINY DIEGO." They then proceed to spam their nukes in an effort to lessen my CS, and the game is effectively over from there. Neither one of them spends any time doing anything relevant besides talking in Spanish and asking the enemy to report me.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/210203956
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On June 03 2013 08:48 Fiercegore wrote:This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read in my life.
Funny, that's how I feel about this entire thread.
Seriously, I don't think there has been a new intelligent post in general for months, maybe new users everyone should just be banned from doing that at this point.
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United States47024 Posts
On June 03 2013 06:55 lizzuma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 06:39 Zephirdd wrote:
> Why isn't Dota2 region locked?
So, I speak fluent English, I coordinate and play my best to help my team and I have tons of international friends, but because you can't handle a couple spanish speakers on an international game I'm not allowed to queue with my friends?
Dota2 needs good latin servers not located in Brazil(because the brazilian servers have awful routing to the rest of latin america), that's it.
Also, from my experience, it's been a long time since I've seen a spanish speaker on USE that "ruined" the game for speaking spanish. Most of the time, the guy ruining the game is the jerk complaining about the spanish speaker. And it's been a REALLY long time since I've seen annoying brazilians on USE as well - most of them prefer to play on 50ms ping on SA server rather than 180ms and english speakers.
And don't act like USE/USW are servers exclusive to the US. Or do you really expect Mexicans to queue to south-america, on an arguably farther server? Why shouldnt they? Allows them to communicate better. It's all about your perspective. For you of course Spanish speakers don't ruin games for other people. But when username JUAN (this happened to me yesterday) picks Spiritbreaker for the long lane solo and communicates exclusively with the other Spanish speaking friend in the party, ignoring the rest of the team the entire game, can't you see how this becomes a problem?
Off-lane SB is actually pretty legit and gets played in high-level Chinese pubs occasionally (PIS and 820 both have videos playing it). That's not a strike against him.
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On June 03 2013 08:57 LeLoup wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 08:48 Fiercegore wrote:This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read in my life. Funny, that's how I feel about this entire thread. Seriously, I don't think there has been a new intelligent post in general for months, maybe new users everyone should just be banned from doing that at this point.
I honestly don't know why this thread is still open. It's pretty obvious why dota 2 isn't region locked.
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Because I don't know how to reach the mod interface on my phone.
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