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On February 13 2013 12:14 ey215 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:12 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On February 13 2013 12:08 aksfjh wrote:On February 13 2013 12:03 Rassy wrote: Infrastructure in the usa is a problem, because the free market does not provide it. The budget for government on all levels in the usa is low. And infrastructure has a low priority on the agenda (because every elected politician spends all spare budget monney on keeping his friends who helped his election happy) so the local authoritys are not providing it either. Thats why you can drive around in beverly hills on terrible roads with huge holes while looking at 100m$ houses. The seize of the country is not an argument in this situation. It can explain a lack of quantity but it can imo not be an excuse for a lack of quality. Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying. "Since 1993, the U.S. federal gasoline tax has been 18.4¢/gal (4.86¢/L)." - SourceWith rising global prices on fuel, nobody is willing to increase taxes on it. Nobody wants to be the "cause" for over $5.00/gal gas. You hit the nail on the head. Everyone wants better roads but no one wants to pay for it. Edit: I drive my car a bunch and I'd totally support a higher gas tax... fwiw (which is zero). It also doesn't help that all politicians at all levels would rather build new stuff than maintain what we already have. Maintenance doesn't buy votes, new construction does. True! All the ribbon cutting Obama mentioned
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Yeah not even standing or applauding is making him look like an Asshole.
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On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote: Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS
Also, lol Boehner not standing up.
He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair."
Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues.
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Now we wait for the Republican response, the Tea Party response, and the Green Party response.
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On February 13 2013 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote: Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS
Also, lol Boehner not standing up. He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair." Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues. Wait, what?
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On February 13 2013 12:12 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:08 aksfjh wrote:On February 13 2013 12:03 Rassy wrote: Infrastructure in the usa is a problem, because the free market does not provide it. The budget for government on all levels in the usa is low. And infrastructure has a low priority on the agenda (because every elected politician spends all spare budget monney on keeping his friends who helped his election happy) so the local authoritys are not providing it either. Thats why you can drive around in beverly hills on terrible roads with huge holes while looking at 100m$ houses. The seize of the country is not an argument in this situation. It can explain a lack of quantity but it can imo not be an excuse for a lack of quality. Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying. "Since 1993, the U.S. federal gasoline tax has been 18.4¢/gal (4.86¢/L)." - SourceWith rising global prices on fuel, nobody is willing to increase taxes on it. Nobody wants to be the "cause" for over $5.00/gal gas. You hit the nail on the head. Everyone wants better roads but no one wants to pay for it. Edit: I drive my car a bunch and I'd totally support a higher gas tax... fwiw (which is zero). I've always hated taxes like that. Ones that don't get indexed for, at the very least, inflation.
Also, I don't think "no one" wants to pay for it. It's just one of those things that's harder to sell. Most people I've talked to believe infrastructure investment is a good idea, and nod in agreement when I bring up the lack of growth in gasoline taxes. But those same people bash the Affordable Care Act, but then proceed to enjoy (and praise) age-extended benefits for kids on their parents plan (up to 26). It all just has to do with how well you can sell it.
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On February 13 2013 12:19 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote: Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS
Also, lol Boehner not standing up. He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair." Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues. Wait, what?
Tearing up at the sad stories, not the other need for tissues.
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On February 13 2013 12:19 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote: Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS
Also, lol Boehner not standing up. He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair." Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues. Wait, what?
He's saying he's getting emotional over the speech, or it's content.
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On February 13 2013 12:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Now we wait for the Republican response, the Tea Party response, and the Green Party response. Nonsense. We wait for tomorrow night when all the comedians get a hold of those responses and make a mockery out of them.
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Also Sarah Palin's response to fair pay is hilarious, she can't even attempt to be sarcastic without fucking it up.
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On February 13 2013 12:21 BlueBird. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:19 tshi wrote:On February 13 2013 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote: Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS
Also, lol Boehner not standing up. He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair." Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues. Wait, what? He's saying he's getting emotional over the speech, or it's content.  its* And, man, that look on john boehners face hasn't changed the whole time. Its THAT look he is giving Obama in that picture on the first page of this thread, it's pretty boehne-chilling. Even when he is clapping, lol
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On February 13 2013 12:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Also Sarah Palin's response to fair pay is hilarious, she can't even attempt to be sarcastic without fucking it up. I thought she died...
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It might be beacuse I'm biased but I didn't like the speech. Too much "why can't we do these things?" Didn't say much about alternative energy outside of the basic wind and solar instead of even mentioning the more practical hydro geothermal and nuclear energy. He talked about river energy and not useing oil anymore but didn't say anything about a plan to help break thought the chicken and egg problems that electrical cars and liquified natural gas semi trailer solutions.
Seemed a very boring unclear speech with grumpy cat john and creepy black demon eye joe biden. What did everyone else think of it?
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On February 13 2013 12:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Also Sarah Palin's response to fair pay is hilarious, she can't even attempt to be sarcastic without fucking it up.
Link please >?
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On February 13 2013 12:27 Sermokala wrote: It might be beacuse I'm biased but I didn't like the speech. Too much "why can't we do these things?" Didn't say much about alternative energy outside of the basic wind and solar instead of even mentioning the more practical hydro geothermal and nuclear energy. He talked about river energy and not useing oil anymore but didn't say anything about a plan to help break thought the chicken and egg problems that electrical cars and liquified natural gas semi trailer solutions.
Seemed a very boring unclear speech with grumpy cat john and creepy black demon eye joe biden. What did everyone else think of it? Well, sheesh.
I thought it was very typical, I think. I liked the part about him saying the internet in america wasn't that good. I agree. Dunno if anything is going to happen tho
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On February 13 2013 12:27 BlueBird. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Also Sarah Palin's response to fair pay is hilarious, she can't even attempt to be sarcastic without fucking it up. Link please  >?
way, women working at the White House make less than men. Clean your own house first, Mr. President. #sotUGottaBKiddingMe
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Hooray issue with sounds.
Palin is joking with that tweet right?
@Rubio - when they succeed... what about when they fail?
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On February 13 2013 12:20 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:12 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On February 13 2013 12:08 aksfjh wrote:On February 13 2013 12:03 Rassy wrote: Infrastructure in the usa is a problem, because the free market does not provide it. The budget for government on all levels in the usa is low. And infrastructure has a low priority on the agenda (because every elected politician spends all spare budget monney on keeping his friends who helped his election happy) so the local authoritys are not providing it either. Thats why you can drive around in beverly hills on terrible roads with huge holes while looking at 100m$ houses. The seize of the country is not an argument in this situation. It can explain a lack of quantity but it can imo not be an excuse for a lack of quality. Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying. "Since 1993, the U.S. federal gasoline tax has been 18.4¢/gal (4.86¢/L)." - SourceWith rising global prices on fuel, nobody is willing to increase taxes on it. Nobody wants to be the "cause" for over $5.00/gal gas. You hit the nail on the head. Everyone wants better roads but no one wants to pay for it. Edit: I drive my car a bunch and I'd totally support a higher gas tax... fwiw (which is zero). I've always hated taxes like that. Ones that don't get indexed for, at the very least, inflation. Also, I don't think "no one" wants to pay for it. It's just one of those things that's harder to sell. Most people I've talked to believe infrastructure investment is a good idea, and nod in agreement when I bring up the lack of growth in gasoline taxes. But those same people bash the Affordable Care Act, but then proceed to enjoy (and praise) age-extended benefits for kids on their parents plan (up to 26). It all just has to do with how well you can sell it. Do they have to pay for that?
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On February 13 2013 12:20 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:12 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On February 13 2013 12:08 aksfjh wrote:On February 13 2013 12:03 Rassy wrote: Infrastructure in the usa is a problem, because the free market does not provide it. The budget for government on all levels in the usa is low. And infrastructure has a low priority on the agenda (because every elected politician spends all spare budget monney on keeping his friends who helped his election happy) so the local authoritys are not providing it either. Thats why you can drive around in beverly hills on terrible roads with huge holes while looking at 100m$ houses. The seize of the country is not an argument in this situation. It can explain a lack of quantity but it can imo not be an excuse for a lack of quality. Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying. "Since 1993, the U.S. federal gasoline tax has been 18.4¢/gal (4.86¢/L)." - SourceWith rising global prices on fuel, nobody is willing to increase taxes on it. Nobody wants to be the "cause" for over $5.00/gal gas. You hit the nail on the head. Everyone wants better roads but no one wants to pay for it. Edit: I drive my car a bunch and I'd totally support a higher gas tax... fwiw (which is zero). I've always hated taxes like that. Ones that don't get indexed for, at the very least, inflation. Also, I don't think "no one" wants to pay for it. It's just one of those things that's harder to sell. Most people I've talked to believe infrastructure investment is a good idea, and nod in agreement when I bring up the lack of growth in gasoline taxes. But those same people bash the Affordable Care Act, but then proceed to enjoy (and praise) age-extended benefits for kids on their parents plan (up to 26). It all just has to do with how well you can sell it. Alternative Minimum Tax here here for nonindexed b.s. It's such a cash cow now because it's hitting all the people that the bill's proponents promised it would never hit. For the burden of payment, the "nobody wants to pay for it" is really "I don't know, let's make the rich pay for it!" in modern day parlance. Heck, even in this quoted discussion we hear one of the common culprits for throwing the payment burden:
Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying Pure deflection, as if company boards shouldn't be free to spend money as they wish on profitable ventures.
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They are not being forced to do that lol
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