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JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
February 13 2013 03:15 GMT
#1961
On February 13 2013 12:14 ey215 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:12 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:08 aksfjh wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:03 Rassy wrote:
Infrastructure in the usa is a problem, because the free market does not provide it.
The budget for government on all levels in the usa is low. And infrastructure has a low priority on the agenda (because every elected politician spends all spare budget monney on keeping his friends who helped his election happy) so the local authoritys are not providing it either.
Thats why you can drive around in beverly hills on terrible roads with huge holes while looking at 100m$ houses.
The seize of the country is not an argument in this situation. It can explain a lack of quantity but it can imo not be an excuse for a lack of quality.
Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying.

"Since 1993, the U.S. federal gasoline tax has been 18.4¢/gal (4.86¢/L)." - Source

With rising global prices on fuel, nobody is willing to increase taxes on it. Nobody wants to be the "cause" for over $5.00/gal gas.

You hit the nail on the head. Everyone wants better roads but no one wants to pay for it.

Edit: I drive my car a bunch and I'd totally support a higher gas tax... fwiw (which is zero).


It also doesn't help that all politicians at all levels would rather build new stuff than maintain what we already have. Maintenance doesn't buy votes, new construction does.

True! All the ribbon cutting Obama mentioned
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2013 03:16 GMT
#1962
Yeah not even standing or applauding is making him look like an Asshole.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46136 Posts
February 13 2013 03:16 GMT
#1963
On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote:
Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS

Also, lol Boehner not standing up.


He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair."

Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2013 03:17 GMT
#1964
Now we wait for the Republican response, the Tea Party response, and the Green Party response.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 13 2013 03:19 GMT
#1965
On February 13 2013 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote:
Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS

Also, lol Boehner not standing up.


He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair."

Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues.

Wait, what?
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 13 2013 03:20 GMT
#1966
On February 13 2013 12:12 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:08 aksfjh wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:03 Rassy wrote:
Infrastructure in the usa is a problem, because the free market does not provide it.
The budget for government on all levels in the usa is low. And infrastructure has a low priority on the agenda (because every elected politician spends all spare budget monney on keeping his friends who helped his election happy) so the local authoritys are not providing it either.
Thats why you can drive around in beverly hills on terrible roads with huge holes while looking at 100m$ houses.
The seize of the country is not an argument in this situation. It can explain a lack of quantity but it can imo not be an excuse for a lack of quality.
Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying.

"Since 1993, the U.S. federal gasoline tax has been 18.4¢/gal (4.86¢/L)." - Source

With rising global prices on fuel, nobody is willing to increase taxes on it. Nobody wants to be the "cause" for over $5.00/gal gas.

You hit the nail on the head. Everyone wants better roads but no one wants to pay for it.

Edit: I drive my car a bunch and I'd totally support a higher gas tax... fwiw (which is zero).

I've always hated taxes like that. Ones that don't get indexed for, at the very least, inflation.

Also, I don't think "no one" wants to pay for it. It's just one of those things that's harder to sell. Most people I've talked to believe infrastructure investment is a good idea, and nod in agreement when I bring up the lack of growth in gasoline taxes. But those same people bash the Affordable Care Act, but then proceed to enjoy (and praise) age-extended benefits for kids on their parents plan (up to 26). It all just has to do with how well you can sell it.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46136 Posts
February 13 2013 03:21 GMT
#1967
On February 13 2013 12:19 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote:
Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS

Also, lol Boehner not standing up.


He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair."

Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues.

Wait, what?


Tearing up at the sad stories, not the other need for tissues.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
February 13 2013 03:21 GMT
#1968
On February 13 2013 12:19 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote:
Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS

Also, lol Boehner not standing up.


He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair."

Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues.

Wait, what?


He's saying he's getting emotional over the speech, or it's content.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 13 2013 03:22 GMT
#1969
On February 13 2013 12:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Now we wait for the Republican response, the Tea Party response, and the Green Party response.

Nonsense. We wait for tomorrow night when all the comedians get a hold of those responses and make a mockery out of them.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2013 03:23 GMT
#1970
Also Sarah Palin's response to fair pay is hilarious, she can't even attempt to be sarcastic without fucking it up.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 13 2013 03:24 GMT
#1971
On February 13 2013 12:21 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:19 tshi wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:14 tshi wrote:
Geezus. 102 years old and voted; PROPSSSSSSS

Also, lol Boehner not standing up.


He's probably thinking "Psh she probably got to sit in a wheelchair."

Jesus christ am I watching the State of the Union or The Notebook? brb getting tissues.

Wait, what?


He's saying he's getting emotional over the speech, or it's content.

its*
And, man, that look on john boehners face hasn't changed the whole time. Its THAT look he is giving Obama in that picture on the first page of this thread, it's pretty boehne-chilling. Even when he is clapping, lol
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 13 2013 03:26 GMT
#1972
On February 13 2013 12:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Also Sarah Palin's response to fair pay is hilarious, she can't even attempt to be sarcastic without fucking it up.

I thought she died...
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14151 Posts
February 13 2013 03:27 GMT
#1973
It might be beacuse I'm biased but I didn't like the speech. Too much "why can't we do these things?" Didn't say much about alternative energy outside of the basic wind and solar instead of even mentioning the more practical hydro geothermal and nuclear energy. He talked about river energy and not useing oil anymore but didn't say anything about a plan to help break thought the chicken and egg problems that electrical cars and liquified natural gas semi trailer solutions.

Seemed a very boring unclear speech with grumpy cat john and creepy black demon eye joe biden. What did everyone else think of it?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
February 13 2013 03:27 GMT
#1974
On February 13 2013 12:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Also Sarah Palin's response to fair pay is hilarious, she can't even attempt to be sarcastic without fucking it up.


Link please >?
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 13 2013 03:28 GMT
#1975
On February 13 2013 12:27 Sermokala wrote:
It might be beacuse I'm biased but I didn't like the speech. Too much "why can't we do these things?" Didn't say much about alternative energy outside of the basic wind and solar instead of even mentioning the more practical hydro geothermal and nuclear energy. He talked about river energy and not useing oil anymore but didn't say anything about a plan to help break thought the chicken and egg problems that electrical cars and liquified natural gas semi trailer solutions.

Seemed a very boring unclear speech with grumpy cat john and creepy black demon eye joe biden. What did everyone else think of it?

Well, sheesh.

I thought it was very typical, I think. I liked the part about him saying the internet in america wasn't that good. I agree. Dunno if anything is going to happen tho
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 03:30:09
February 13 2013 03:30 GMT
#1976
On February 13 2013 12:27 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Also Sarah Palin's response to fair pay is hilarious, she can't even attempt to be sarcastic without fucking it up.


Link please >?



way, women working at the White House make less than men. Clean your own house first, Mr. President. #sotUGottaBKiddingMe
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 03:31:45
February 13 2013 03:30 GMT
#1977
Hooray issue with sounds.

Palin is joking with that tweet right?

@Rubio - when they succeed... what about when they fail?
Yargh
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
February 13 2013 03:31 GMT
#1978
On February 13 2013 12:20 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:12 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:08 aksfjh wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:03 Rassy wrote:
Infrastructure in the usa is a problem, because the free market does not provide it.
The budget for government on all levels in the usa is low. And infrastructure has a low priority on the agenda (because every elected politician spends all spare budget monney on keeping his friends who helped his election happy) so the local authoritys are not providing it either.
Thats why you can drive around in beverly hills on terrible roads with huge holes while looking at 100m$ houses.
The seize of the country is not an argument in this situation. It can explain a lack of quantity but it can imo not be an excuse for a lack of quality.
Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying.

"Since 1993, the U.S. federal gasoline tax has been 18.4¢/gal (4.86¢/L)." - Source

With rising global prices on fuel, nobody is willing to increase taxes on it. Nobody wants to be the "cause" for over $5.00/gal gas.

You hit the nail on the head. Everyone wants better roads but no one wants to pay for it.

Edit: I drive my car a bunch and I'd totally support a higher gas tax... fwiw (which is zero).

I've always hated taxes like that. Ones that don't get indexed for, at the very least, inflation.

Also, I don't think "no one" wants to pay for it. It's just one of those things that's harder to sell. Most people I've talked to believe infrastructure investment is a good idea, and nod in agreement when I bring up the lack of growth in gasoline taxes. But those same people bash the Affordable Care Act, but then proceed to enjoy (and praise) age-extended benefits for kids on their parents plan (up to 26). It all just has to do with how well you can sell it.

Do they have to pay for that?
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 13 2013 03:31 GMT
#1979
On February 13 2013 12:20 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:12 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:08 aksfjh wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:03 Rassy wrote:
Infrastructure in the usa is a problem, because the free market does not provide it.
The budget for government on all levels in the usa is low. And infrastructure has a low priority on the agenda (because every elected politician spends all spare budget monney on keeping his friends who helped his election happy) so the local authoritys are not providing it either.
Thats why you can drive around in beverly hills on terrible roads with huge holes while looking at 100m$ houses.
The seize of the country is not an argument in this situation. It can explain a lack of quantity but it can imo not be an excuse for a lack of quality.
Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying.

"Since 1993, the U.S. federal gasoline tax has been 18.4¢/gal (4.86¢/L)." - Source

With rising global prices on fuel, nobody is willing to increase taxes on it. Nobody wants to be the "cause" for over $5.00/gal gas.

You hit the nail on the head. Everyone wants better roads but no one wants to pay for it.

Edit: I drive my car a bunch and I'd totally support a higher gas tax... fwiw (which is zero).

I've always hated taxes like that. Ones that don't get indexed for, at the very least, inflation.

Also, I don't think "no one" wants to pay for it. It's just one of those things that's harder to sell. Most people I've talked to believe infrastructure investment is a good idea, and nod in agreement when I bring up the lack of growth in gasoline taxes. But those same people bash the Affordable Care Act, but then proceed to enjoy (and praise) age-extended benefits for kids on their parents plan (up to 26). It all just has to do with how well you can sell it.

Alternative Minimum Tax here here for nonindexed b.s. It's such a cash cow now because it's hitting all the people that the bill's proponents promised it would never hit. For the burden of payment, the "nobody wants to pay for it" is really "I don't know, let's make the rich pay for it!" in modern day parlance. Heck, even in this quoted discussion we hear one of the common culprits for throwing the payment burden:
Maybe it would be better if construction companys started to spend more monney on lobbying
Pure deflection, as if company boards shouldn't be free to spend money as they wish on profitable ventures.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2013 03:33 GMT
#1980
They are not being forced to do that lol
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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