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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
February 13 2013 03:48 GMT
#2001
@Jin: I think I get what you're saying now, because he assumes everyone will succeed, and we all know that's simply not true.

Oh. Darn. It's over already. Shoot, lol. X-D I liked it. I approve of Rubio more now. Still kinda frustrated on his stance toward entitlements, though we now live in a time where any politician who says anything about cutting SS or Medicare gets an eternally-tarnished reputation. *sigh* Politics.... :-\
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14176 Posts
February 13 2013 03:49 GMT
#2002
It would be an epic level of political thinking if he did that drink of water on purpose. Instead of anything about Tsotu its going to be all about rubio and him drinking water.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 13 2013 03:49 GMT
#2003
Huffington post stream, just made fun of Mark Rubio's water break.
liftlift > tsm
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
February 13 2013 03:49 GMT
#2004
On February 13 2013 12:48 cLAN.Anax wrote:
@Jin: I think I get what you're saying now, because he assumes everyone will succeed, and we all know that's simply not true.

Oh. Darn. It's over already. Shoot, lol. X-D I liked it. I approve of Rubio more now. Still kinda frustrated on his stance toward entitlements, though we now live in a time where any politician who says anything about cutting SS or Medicare gets an eternally-tarnished reputation. *sigh* Politics.... :-\


I sincerely hope he (Rubio) doesn't assume that everyone will succeed. I understand if his constituents may think that, but if he thinks that as well, he's a little touched in the head.

On February 13 2013 12:48 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:45 JinDesu wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:43 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:41 JinDesu wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:39 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This is the exact same issues that Romney tried to advocate during the election. The exact same.


I feel Rubio is slightly more consistent than Romney. Perhaps just slightly, but more consistent nonetheless.

On February 13 2013 12:39 JinDesu wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:35 JinDesu wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Rubio just admitted that Republicans advocated for raising taxes.


But he loves his neighbors.

Neighbors not millionaires, but his backers are billionaires.


Yeah, his neighbors are middle class.

I still really dislike how he opened. I won't be bias and say that everything he says is terrible - but when he said "everyone can take a chance, and when they succeed..." and yet, what do we do when they fail?


Let them fail?


That's fine - but I would like him to say that. Otherwise, it sounds like a lottery.

"Hey, you have a chance of winning! But let's be honest, you have a 1:1000000 chance."


I would agree with it, but it would plunge his approval with a lot of people who want a government to catch them, lololol.


I understand - I'm just saying why I hate that line. It's just such a flowery line. I would rather he say something else :\

It was a pretty good speech with a lotta subtle hits at Obama..


None of those hits were exactly subtle...


To be fair, I think it was subtle compared to the last year or so of Republican comments on Obama.
Yargh
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2013 03:51 GMT
#2005
Fox News is comparing Rubio to Bobby Jindal.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
February 13 2013 03:51 GMT
#2006
On February 13 2013 12:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Fox News is comparing Rubio to Bobby Jindal.


I sorta got that vibe from watching Jindal's response on youtube this afternoon. Just a lot better spoken.
Yargh
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 13 2013 03:52 GMT
#2007
On February 13 2013 12:48 cLAN.Anax wrote:
@Jin: I think I get what you're saying now, because he assumes everyone will succeed, and we all know that's simply not true.

Oh. Darn. It's over already. Shoot, lol. X-D I liked it. I approve of Rubio more now. Still kinda frustrated on his stance toward entitlements, though we now live in a time where any politician who says anything about cutting SS or Medicare gets an eternally-tarnished reputation. *sigh* Politics.... :-\

We also live in a time where a huge number of Americans are living in poverty and/or don't make enough to make retirement payments, while a small fraction practically hoard money. You can only take the anti-populist stance for so long before it bites you in the ass.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
February 13 2013 03:55 GMT
#2008
On February 13 2013 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Huffington post stream, just made fun of Mark Rubio's water break.


I'm glad I'm here and not on there, lol. Would only make me so, so mad.... >_<

On February 13 2013 12:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Fox News is comparing Rubio to Bobby Jindal.


I would agree with the comparison. They have a fair bit in common. Youthful looks, an intangible vigor, relatively conservative principles. I know Jindal supports a pro-sales tax, anti-income tax policy, but I'm not sure if Rubio would go that far, so there may be a difference.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2013 03:55 GMT
#2009
On February 13 2013 12:55 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Huffington post stream, just made fun of Mark Rubio's water break.


I'm glad I'm here and not on there, lol. Would only make me so, so mad.... >_<

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Fox News is comparing Rubio to Bobby Jindal.


I would agree with the comparison. They have a fair bit in common. Youthful looks, an intangible vigor, relatively conservative principles. I know Jindal supports a pro-sales tax, anti-income tax policy, but I'm not sure if Rubio would go that far, so there may be a difference.


Have you seen the infamous Bobby Jindal response to the State of the Union?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
February 13 2013 03:55 GMT
#2010
On February 13 2013 12:52 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:48 cLAN.Anax wrote:
@Jin: I think I get what you're saying now, because he assumes everyone will succeed, and we all know that's simply not true.

Oh. Darn. It's over already. Shoot, lol. X-D I liked it. I approve of Rubio more now. Still kinda frustrated on his stance toward entitlements, though we now live in a time where any politician who says anything about cutting SS or Medicare gets an eternally-tarnished reputation. *sigh* Politics.... :-\

We also live in a time where a huge number of Americans are living in poverty and/or don't make enough to make retirement payments, while a small fraction practically hoard money. You can only take the anti-populist stance for so long before it bites you in the ass.

They have to... at least so long as the middle class isn't willing to. That's my take on it anyways.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 03:58:46
February 13 2013 03:57 GMT
#2011
On February 13 2013 12:55 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:52 aksfjh wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:48 cLAN.Anax wrote:
@Jin: I think I get what you're saying now, because he assumes everyone will succeed, and we all know that's simply not true.

Oh. Darn. It's over already. Shoot, lol. X-D I liked it. I approve of Rubio more now. Still kinda frustrated on his stance toward entitlements, though we now live in a time where any politician who says anything about cutting SS or Medicare gets an eternally-tarnished reputation. *sigh* Politics.... :-\

We also live in a time where a huge number of Americans are living in poverty and/or don't make enough to make retirement payments, while a small fraction practically hoard money. You can only take the anti-populist stance for so long before it bites you in the ass.

They have to... at least so long as the middle class isn't willing to. That's my take on it anyways.


Heh, but increased consumerism means the middle class will never hold onto their money~ might as well tax them :p

Side note - who's this guy speaking on the CBS channel? He's definitely nowhere near as charismatic as Rubio, and is coming off quite condescending to me.
Yargh
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 13 2013 04:00 GMT
#2012
On February 13 2013 12:55 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:52 aksfjh wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:48 cLAN.Anax wrote:
@Jin: I think I get what you're saying now, because he assumes everyone will succeed, and we all know that's simply not true.

Oh. Darn. It's over already. Shoot, lol. X-D I liked it. I approve of Rubio more now. Still kinda frustrated on his stance toward entitlements, though we now live in a time where any politician who says anything about cutting SS or Medicare gets an eternally-tarnished reputation. *sigh* Politics.... :-\

We also live in a time where a huge number of Americans are living in poverty and/or don't make enough to make retirement payments, while a small fraction practically hoard money. You can only take the anti-populist stance for so long before it bites you in the ass.

They have to... at least so long as the middle class isn't willing to. That's my take on it anyways.

Eh, when real wages have been stagnant since the 80s for a majority of Americans while healthcare and education costs have risen dramatically, I would rather jump to the conclusion that it's harder for them to save more than they aren't "willing."
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 04:03:34
February 13 2013 04:00 GMT
#2013
On February 13 2013 12:52 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:48 cLAN.Anax wrote:
@Jin: I think I get what you're saying now, because he assumes everyone will succeed, and we all know that's simply not true.

Oh. Darn. It's over already. Shoot, lol. X-D I liked it. I approve of Rubio more now. Still kinda frustrated on his stance toward entitlements, though we now live in a time where any politician who says anything about cutting SS or Medicare gets an eternally-tarnished reputation. *sigh* Politics.... :-\

We also live in a time where a huge number of Americans are living in poverty and/or don't make enough to make retirement payments, while a small fraction practically hoard money. You can only take the anti-populist stance for so long before it bites you in the ass.


I believe the principle, if correct, should be able to withstand the test of the citizen's opinion, no matter how unpopular. I would rather vote for a politician whose policies I agree with than one who tries to cater to the populace just to get more votes. But, that's just me....

On February 13 2013 12:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:55 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Huffington post stream, just made fun of Mark Rubio's water break.


I'm glad I'm here and not on there, lol. Would only make me so, so mad.... >_<

On February 13 2013 12:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Fox News is comparing Rubio to Bobby Jindal.


I would agree with the comparison. They have a fair bit in common. Youthful looks, an intangible vigor, relatively conservative principles. I know Jindal supports a pro-sales tax, anti-income tax policy, but I'm not sure if Rubio would go that far, so there may be a difference.


Have you seen the infamous Bobby Jindal response to the State of the Union?


Nope. Sounds like it's worth the watch. I'll search for it.

Edit: I assume this is it?

Edit 2: How in the blasted heck did you ninja me, Jin? O_O
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2013 04:01 GMT
#2014
Stay Thirsty America

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
February 13 2013 04:02 GMT
#2015
On February 13 2013 13:00 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:52 aksfjh wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:48 cLAN.Anax wrote:
@Jin: I think I get what you're saying now, because he assumes everyone will succeed, and we all know that's simply not true.

Oh. Darn. It's over already. Shoot, lol. X-D I liked it. I approve of Rubio more now. Still kinda frustrated on his stance toward entitlements, though we now live in a time where any politician who says anything about cutting SS or Medicare gets an eternally-tarnished reputation. *sigh* Politics.... :-\

We also live in a time where a huge number of Americans are living in poverty and/or don't make enough to make retirement payments, while a small fraction practically hoard money. You can only take the anti-populist stance for so long before it bites you in the ass.


I believe the principle, if correct, should be able to withstand the test of the citizen's opinion, no matter how unpopular. I would rather vote for a politician whose policies I agree with than one who tries to cater to the populace just to get more votes. But, that's just me....

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:55 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Huffington post stream, just made fun of Mark Rubio's water break.


I'm glad I'm here and not on there, lol. Would only make me so, so mad.... >_<

On February 13 2013 12:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Fox News is comparing Rubio to Bobby Jindal.


I would agree with the comparison. They have a fair bit in common. Youthful looks, an intangible vigor, relatively conservative principles. I know Jindal supports a pro-sales tax, anti-income tax policy, but I'm not sure if Rubio would go that far, so there may be a difference.


Have you seen the infamous Bobby Jindal response to the State of the Union?


Nope. Sounds like it's worth the watch. I'll search for it.


Yargh
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2013 04:05 GMT
#2016
So the Green Party response was online(can't find a YouTube video yet), no idea where Rand Paul is...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2013 04:13 GMT
#2017
RT @AdamSerwer: Rand Paul SOTU response states "We will not tolerate secret lists of American citizens who can be killed without trial."
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 13 2013 04:13 GMT
#2018
On February 13 2013 13:05 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the Green Party response was online(can't find a YouTube video yet), no idea where Rand Paul is...

Killed, by Karl Rove!
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
February 13 2013 04:14 GMT
#2019
On February 13 2013 13:00 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 12:55 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:52 aksfjh wrote:
On February 13 2013 12:48 cLAN.Anax wrote:
@Jin: I think I get what you're saying now, because he assumes everyone will succeed, and we all know that's simply not true.

Oh. Darn. It's over already. Shoot, lol. X-D I liked it. I approve of Rubio more now. Still kinda frustrated on his stance toward entitlements, though we now live in a time where any politician who says anything about cutting SS or Medicare gets an eternally-tarnished reputation. *sigh* Politics.... :-\

We also live in a time where a huge number of Americans are living in poverty and/or don't make enough to make retirement payments, while a small fraction practically hoard money. You can only take the anti-populist stance for so long before it bites you in the ass.

They have to... at least so long as the middle class isn't willing to. That's my take on it anyways.

Eh, when real wages have been stagnant since the 80s for a majority of Americans while healthcare and education costs have risen dramatically, I would rather jump to the conclusion that it's harder for them to save more than they aren't "willing."

I don't think that's correct. Real household income has risen for all income groups and healthcare / education costs are included in inflation figures.

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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14176 Posts
February 13 2013 04:15 GMT
#2020
Wow I thought jindal was painful a year ago in the midst of a shitty primary cycle but I didn't think it was that bad.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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