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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
January 04 2018 00:07 GMT
#192561
On January 04 2018 08:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
Would not providing documents really require Rosenstein and Wray to meet with Ryan like this? It seems like a politely worded "screw off" letter would have been fine. There's got to be a little more to the story I think.

I am very interested to see what the results of this are.

My best guess: I imagine that they have refused part or all of the request, which meant they had to go to Ryan to explain why.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 04 2018 00:08 GMT
#192562
On January 04 2018 08:10 farvacola wrote:
Not only has that "pretend Nunes has any credibility" Fox News tweet already been posted in this thread, it was literally you who posted it Danglars.

And now it has a bit more fleshing out.

And FYI Nunes was cleared in the investigation into whether he mishandled intelligence documents. But I really think you’re too much in the camp that assumes an (R) before the name damages credibility anyways.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
January 04 2018 00:11 GMT
#192563
On January 04 2018 09:08 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2018 08:10 farvacola wrote:
Not only has that "pretend Nunes has any credibility" Fox News tweet already been posted in this thread, it was literally you who posted it Danglars.

And now it has a bit more fleshing out.

And FYI Nunes was cleared in the investigation into whether he mishandled intelligence documents. But I really think you’re too much in the camp that assumes an (R) before the name damages credibility anyways.



These days? Yes. (R) means (R)eally dishonest. There are exceptions, but if you don't think Republican politicians are unusually full of shit, you haven't been paying attention. Both in the House and the Senate.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 04 2018 00:12 GMT
#192564
On January 04 2018 08:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
Would not providing documents really require Rosenstein and Wray to meet with Ryan like this? It seems like a politely worded "screw off" letter would have been fine. There's got to be a little more to the story I think.

They already came to heel once after Ryan got involved. It might have no relation after all, I don’t really know. It’s just today is the deadline for handing over intelligence in the dossier case. I want to know if a Hillary oppo research document was used to justify wiretaps on her election opponent. If there was credible intelligence in addition to it, or if the FBI verified some claims, that would be a nice thing to know.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18863 Posts
January 04 2018 00:17 GMT
#192565
President Donald Trump has signed an executive order disbanding his voter fraud commission.

A White House statement is blaming the decision on numerous states that have refused to provide voter information to the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that, "Rather than engage in endless legal battles at taxpayer expense," Trump has signed an order to dissolve the commission and asked the Department of Homeland Security to determine the administration's next steps.

Critics saw the commission as part of a conservative campaign to strip minority voters and poor people from the voter rolls, and to justify unfounded claims made by Trump that voter fraud cost him the popular vote in 2016.

Past studies have found voter fraud to be exceptionally rare.


Trump dissolves controversial election fraud commission, says states fought information requests
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 04 2018 00:24 GMT
#192566
On January 04 2018 09:11 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2018 09:08 Danglars wrote:
On January 04 2018 08:10 farvacola wrote:
Not only has that "pretend Nunes has any credibility" Fox News tweet already been posted in this thread, it was literally you who posted it Danglars.

And now it has a bit more fleshing out.

And FYI Nunes was cleared in the investigation into whether he mishandled intelligence documents. But I really think you’re too much in the camp that assumes an (R) before the name damages credibility anyways.



These days? Yes. (R) means (R)eally dishonest. There are exceptions, but if you don't think Republican politicians are unusually full of shit, you haven't been paying attention. Both in the House and the Senate.

I have a low opinion of politicians in general, but Nunes has been doing good work. Schiff has been a partisan hack, dishonest and obstructive. Most of the Republicans grandstanding back at Benghazi testimony were just slime balls. On the balance, selecting out Republicans from the mix is unsupported if we’re talking honesty. Farva has shown a bit of that in the past.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 04 2018 00:26 GMT
#192567
On January 04 2018 09:17 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
President Donald Trump has signed an executive order disbanding his voter fraud commission.

A White House statement is blaming the decision on numerous states that have refused to provide voter information to the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that, "Rather than engage in endless legal battles at taxpayer expense," Trump has signed an order to dissolve the commission and asked the Department of Homeland Security to determine the administration's next steps.

Critics saw the commission as part of a conservative campaign to strip minority voters and poor people from the voter rolls, and to justify unfounded claims made by Trump that voter fraud cost him the popular vote in 2016.

Past studies have found voter fraud to be exceptionally rare.


Trump dissolves controversial election fraud commission, says states fought information requests

Not a job for the federal government and a great use of states giving the middle finger to the executive. Trump turning farva into a state rights dude is unexpected. I joke, but you usually only cite noncompliance with the fed to trash others that care for state rights.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-04 00:38:18
January 04 2018 00:37 GMT
#192568
On January 04 2018 09:24 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2018 09:11 Ayaz2810 wrote:
On January 04 2018 09:08 Danglars wrote:
On January 04 2018 08:10 farvacola wrote:
Not only has that "pretend Nunes has any credibility" Fox News tweet already been posted in this thread, it was literally you who posted it Danglars.

And now it has a bit more fleshing out.

And FYI Nunes was cleared in the investigation into whether he mishandled intelligence documents. But I really think you’re too much in the camp that assumes an (R) before the name damages credibility anyways.



These days? Yes. (R) means (R)eally dishonest. There are exceptions, but if you don't think Republican politicians are unusually full of shit, you haven't been paying attention. Both in the House and the Senate.

I have a low opinion of politicians in general, but Nunes has been doing good work. Schiff has been a partisan hack, dishonest and obstructive. Most of the Republicans grandstanding back at Benghazi testimony were just slime balls. On the balance, selecting out Republicans from the mix is unsupported if we’re talking honesty. Farva has shown a bit of that in the past.


Not the best attempt at trolling I've ever read, but you come across as sincere. It's a decent attempt.

I suppose the fact that Nunes ran to the WH in the middle of the night to give them info they already had means nothing and him being part of the beleaguered transition has nothing to do with his behavior now. He, like many in Trump's orbit, are acting like they are in full on panic mode. But that's just "doing good work". Gotcha.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/this-video-proves-vp-mike-pence-lied-about-russia-and_us_5a4d5e75e4b0d86c803c7bc7

I expect Nunes knows a lot more than has been publicly disclosed. Like others.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 04 2018 01:10 GMT
#192569
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 04 2018 01:46 GMT
#192570
On January 04 2018 09:17 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
President Donald Trump has signed an executive order disbanding his voter fraud commission.

A White House statement is blaming the decision on numerous states that have refused to provide voter information to the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that, "Rather than engage in endless legal battles at taxpayer expense," Trump has signed an order to dissolve the commission and asked the Department of Homeland Security to determine the administration's next steps.

Critics saw the commission as part of a conservative campaign to strip minority voters and poor people from the voter rolls, and to justify unfounded claims made by Trump that voter fraud cost him the popular vote in 2016.

Past studies have found voter fraud to be exceptionally rare.


Trump dissolves controversial election fraud commission, says states fought information requests


They found so much evidence that they didn't have time to handle it all. We must have voter IDs.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
January 04 2018 01:47 GMT
#192571
Just saying.

Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
mozoku
Profile Joined September 2012
United States708 Posts
January 04 2018 01:51 GMT
#192572
Is Twitter really the best place for journalism that requires 46 serial tweets?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 04 2018 01:56 GMT
#192573
On January 04 2018 03:28 Doodsmack wrote:
What’s funny is how many lies are packed into this statement.


He put this man on the Nation Security Council but he hardly knew him and he was of no importance....?

Neosteel Enthusiast
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9641 Posts
January 04 2018 02:24 GMT
#192574
On January 04 2018 10:47 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Just saying.

https://twitter.com/yottapoint/status/845712917764845568

lol that timing is too perfect to be true.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 04 2018 02:57 GMT
#192575
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 04 2018 03:07 GMT
#192576
On January 04 2018 10:51 mozoku wrote:
Is Twitter really the best place for journalism that requires 46 serial tweets?

Seriously. Why can't things be a Facebook post?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 04 2018 03:21 GMT
#192577
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 04 2018 03:31 GMT
#192578
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 04 2018 03:48 GMT
#192579
This book is no joke.

Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
January 04 2018 04:06 GMT
#192580
On January 04 2018 12:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/948676945121828864


As if he didn't seem like enough of a truly cartoonish douchebag. Holy god, I wonder if half of that is real, I mean CAN it be? I mean is anyone REALLY like that?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
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