EPTRegardless of how journalists got it, color me unsurprised that the exchange wasn’t deleted in some way after the election.
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NeoIllusions
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Regardless of how journalists got it, color me unsurprised that the exchange wasn’t deleted in some way after the election. | ||
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LegalLord
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On November 14 2017 11:03 NeoIllusions wrote: Any ideas on how TheAtlantic got the communique between WL and Jr? I don’t imagine Twitter would willingly release DMs like this so would that leave one of the two twitter accounts compromised or what? Regardless of how journalists got it, color me unsurprised that the exchange wasn’t deleted in some way after the election. Leakage most likely. That specific organization is almost certainly well connected to intelligence folk that might want that information public. | ||
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Plansix
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He is dumb like a sack of turnips. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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On November 14 2017 11:07 Plansix wrote: https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/930228239494209536 He is dumb like a sack of turnips. He's pulling a Carter Page, the absolute madman | ||
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Nevuk
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NewSunshine
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-Trump, Jr. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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On November 14 2017 10:32 Danglars wrote: Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is a major election. There's few state posts higher in a state-wide election. Yeah, and people were amazed when he won the 2000 R primary without a runoff on the back of Karl Rove and even more amazed when he won again after being suspended from the court for being a total shitter. So color me unsurprised no one went canvassing through his earlier life contacts looking for yearbooks he signed creeping on high school girls. But sure, we never find out that big political players are human garbage later so we should be skeptical. There's no Dennis Hasterts that are the longest running Speakers of the House despite molesting young boys and admitting to it after his tenure ended or Weiners out there, no way. | ||
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Kyadytim
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On November 14 2017 10:42 Falling wrote: Well, I teach, so it's not so much that I'm given more hours, so much as I take on more hours. But the public will never want to pay sufficient money to compensate my out of class hours, even if I am (as I am currently) coaching two volleyball teams and am the athletic director on top of full time teaching. But teaching is weird in that it relies upon tax money, in full or in part, so it isn't exactly free market (even our private schools have 50% government funding for the students, though nothing for capital expenses). Salaried work is weird in general, as I suppose it is more open to abuse from an employer. On the other hand, if I didn't like working those extra hours without pay, I could find some other job that paid hourly. I certainly wouldn't have double coached (in the same season) any other sport other than volleyball. But I enjoy it, so I do it- no one else was going to. That was more of a generic "you." I believe technically I should have written "one and one's employer," but that just sounds strange. But yeah, my problem with capitalism isn't the relationship between workers, or between workers and government. It's the relationship between workers and capital, the latter of which is largely represented by large corporations these days. With all the overtime exemptions, salaried work is open to abuse from employers. Of course, hourly work can result in stuff like McDonald's budget advice for its employees that made the rounds a while back. http://www.nasdaq.com/article/mcdonalds-sample-budget-sheet-is-laughable-but-its-implications-are-not-cm261920 Basically, the reality is that most people can't change jobs easily, and employers leverage this into things such as squeezing more work out of salaried employees or squeezing hourly wages down. When people are working at minimum wage, wealth is generated, and both the employees and employers get some of it, but the employees are getting so little that they can't actually live on it. My original comment is that capitalism is how the employers (the large corporations and the people who benefit the most from their behavior) morally justify the situation where a significant portion of Americans don't have the option of exchanging their labor for what it's really worth, much less the option of gaining some share of the value their labor creates when they're part of a larger organization. The alternative, that human labor is not actually worth enough for a human to live on, has implications that I'm pretty sure this thread has discussed already in the form of discussing UBI. | ||
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Doodsmack
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On November 14 2017 11:00 Danglars wrote: The first step would be to show through action that you're only lacking support to be argued into believing these terrible things about the Clintons. I'm really not going to waste my breath with someone that thinks there's not a shred of evidence in support. I lived the 90s. I saw reporters detail with aplomb how Hillary Clinton's team took forward position on discrediting Clinton's accusers. I have to first believe there's some minds out there that examined the evidence and are willing to be convinced otherwise, and trust me when I say the basest Trump-Russia conspiracy theorists are very low on the list. I think the first step would be supporting your statement. For one thing Brodderick was the only rape accuser, so you're already questionable on your facts. Vague appeals to reporters who said things with aplomb in the 90s doesn't count. I am also not sure what the hell your first sentence said. I could read it a couple more times and begin to infer what you meant, but it's really ineffective. | ||
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NeoIllusions
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On November 14 2017 11:06 LegalLord wrote: Leakage most likely. That specific organization is almost certainly well connected to intelligence folk that might want that information public. Leakage from whom? This looks bad for both parties involved unless you have a third party in mind. I was a little hesitant about the source of information but then Jr just tweeted shit out himself. Amazing. | ||
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Plansix
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This is like watch Arrested Development, but with way more malice. | ||
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Doodsmack
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On November 14 2017 10:58 GreenHorizons wrote: Do you think Joe Biden acts inappropriately around young female children and/or women in general? I had never heard of this before but I looked up the Sessions video and I’m not totally clear on it. I remember a video of Biden putting his hands on someone’s wife’s shoulders. So it could be just some type of shoulder and arm contact that he does. But if he’s a pedophile he should be tarred and feathered and then locked in jail. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Alabama, was banned from a mall in the early 1980s after he repeatedly attempted to pick up teenage girls, former mall employees and local police told The New Yorker. Other locals also told AL.com that Moore was known for prowling the mall. Moore, whom five women have accused of making advances on them or molesting them when they were teenagers, allegedly had a reputation for hanging around the Gadsden Mall, in Gadsden, Alabama, in pursuit of high school-age girls. One former mall employee told The New Yorker that a security guard asked mall employees to be on the lookout for Moore, who was “banned from the mall.” Blake Usry, who was a teenager in town at the time, told AL.com Moore was known to "flirt with all the young girls," and would hang out at the mall on weekends "like the kids did." Other locals told AL.com that Moore's penchant for flirting with teens was common knowledge in town. One former waitress told AL.com that Moore made young waitresses uncomfortable by staring at them, then becoming rude if they did not "give him an opening." A police officer, one of two who spoke with The New Yorker, said that “general knowledge at the time when I moved here was that this guy is a lawyer cruising the mall for high-school dates” and that Moore may not have received an official ban but was a persona non grata at the mall and had been “run off” from “a number of stores.” Source | ||
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Plansix
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Falling
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The alternative, that human labor is not actually worth enough for a human to live on, has implications that I'm pretty sure this thread has discussed already in the form of discussing UBI. Well, despite my argument in one direction, I do hold to this: "A man must always live by his work, and his wages must at least be sufficient to maintain him. They must even upon most occasions be somewhat more; otherwise it would be impossible for him to bring up a family, and the race of such workmen could not last beyond the first generation." The question, the is what is sufficient to maintain, plus more for a family. It certainly wouldn't be the same across an entire nation, unless the nation is very small and there was no rural-urban divide. But I'm afraid for your particular fast-food restaurant worker example, substantially higher wages will simply accelerate the automation process. I guess the ones that are left will be better paid, so that will be good for them, but a great many will be replaced by machines, inevitably. But I still do think that a man must live by his work... though that might mean forgoing a great many things deemed needs by modern society, but would have been considered wants to any generation before. edit. What a creep. So much of this seems to be open secrets, which is just crazy. The Catholic Church has been under the microscope for some time and for good reason. But it would seem that perversity is also widely found in secular place of power. | ||
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