US Politics Mega-thread - Page 9231

On November 14 2017 08:52 Mohdoo wrote:

Lol, am I considered old now?! T_T I should really start cranking out kids soon..arg

Roy Moore, the Republican Senate candidate and former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, was born in Gadsden, a small city flanked by Interstate 59 and the Coosa River, an hour northeast of Birmingham. Gadsden is hilly, woodsy, blue-collar, and religious. “LEGAL OR NOT, SIN IS SIN,” a sign in front of a church announced yesterday. I saw it as I drove around, crisscrossing George Wallace Drive. I also saw Trump posters, Confederate flags, and dozens of signs for Doug Jones, the Democrat tied with Moore in recent Senate-race polls. Gadsden is the seat of Etowah County, which is a conservative place; Donald Trump received three times as many votes in the county as Hillary Clinton did. (Statewide, he received twice as many.) But I didn’t, in all my driving, see a single yard sign for Moore, the home-town son. Even the parking lot of the one mall in town had more bumper stickers for Luther Strange (four), Moore’s opponent in the Republican primary, than for Moore himself (one).

The Gadsden Mall opened in 1974. It has two department stores, Belk and Sears, one on each end. Between them, on Sunday night, I walked past Books-A-Million, Cellular Solutions, a Japanese steak house, Great American Cookies, Blacklight Mini-Golf, KnockerBall Gadsden, an eyebrow-styling kiosk, and a clothing store for young girls, called Justice. A diverse assortment of families wandered around the place, which felt trapped in time. Two young security guards made their rounds. “It gets rough in here on Saturday nights,” one of them told me, mentioning fighting, stealing, and gun-toting. “We still have an active ban list,” the other said, referencing a list of chronic rule-breakers not allowed on mall property. “But it doesn’t go back that far.”

He meant back to the early eighties, when Roy Moore was, many people say, a regular visitor to the mall. On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that, when Moore was a thirty-two-year-old assistant district attorney in Etowah County, he brought Leigh Corfman, who was fourteen years old at the time, to his home and sexually molested her. Three additional women told the Post that Moore had pursued them when they were in their teens and he was in his early thirties. (On Monday, another woman, Beverly Young Nelson, said that Moore assaulted her when she was sixteen years old. At a press conference, she held up a high-school yearbook that she said Moore signed before the alleged assault.) Two of the women say that they first met Moore at the Gadsden Mall, and the Post reports that several other women who used to work there remembered Moore’s frequent presence—“usually alone” and “well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt.”

This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls.” Jones told me that she couldn’t confirm the alleged mall banning, but said, “It’s a rumor I’ve heard for years.”

On November 14 2017 05:55 Liquid`Drone wrote:


Hillary's actions towards Broderick, even if fully accepting them, cannot in be equated with that of Moore, Bill Clinton, or even the self admitted ones from Donald Trump. Completely unfair comparison.

On November 14 2017 10:12 TheTenthDoc wrote:
This was the first time Moore ever threw his hat into a big election (unless you count Alabama chief justice, from which he was suspended twice) where he didn't get dumpstered in the primary. Between no need for great oppo previously and the intimidation of making these sorts of allegations/how fucked up it makes your life, it's not that surprising to me.

On November 14 2017 10:31 Danglars wrote:

If you can vote for a woman that will cover up, threaten into silence, and destroy the credibility of rape victims so her husband can offend again, you're nine tenths of the way there as far as I'm concerned.

On November 14 2017 05:39 Nevuk wrote:
But seriously, did every GOP politician forget how to do oppo research on other GOP during primaries in the last 2 years? This shit should've come out a long time ago.

On November 14 2017 07:19 Kyadytim wrote:

It's all very nice looking at the relationship between two laborers, but how about the relationship between you and your employer? If your employer starts giving you 10 more hours of work a week with no compensation, that's fine because value is still being created? I'd call that your employer generating value at your expense.

On November 14 2017 10:31 Danglars wrote:

If you can vote for a woman that will cover up, threaten into silence, and destroy the credibility of rape victims so her husband can offend again, you're nine tenths of the way there as far as I'm concerned.

On November 14 2017 08:50 Leporello wrote:


Seriously, this article is crazy-crazy.

Like, WTF are we still doing here? We're so past the point of reasonable impeachment. WikiLeaks, even if you're naive enough to think they're not doing Russia's bidding here, is not an American organization.

A foreign organization is telling the Trump campaign to convince its people, American citizens, to disregard election results. And what did Trump's campaign do? How did Trump's campaign react to this foreign-organization's subversive requests? They advertised them. Shortly after Jr's correspondence, Trump starts speaking and tweeting about WikiLeaks regularly.

The timeline of this implicates more than Jr. It was Trump himself that THEN went on a de-facto WikiLeaks Promotion Tour. This is so fucking rotten.

On November 14 2017 10:42 Doodsmack wrote:


Hey look you repeated a false claim for which you have not and cannot provide support.

On November 14 2017 10:42 Doodsmack wrote:


Hey look you repeated a false claim for which you have not and cannot provide support.