EPTSo why dear Republicans (xDaunt mostly) is he raging on twitter rather then appointing someone to do this 'much needed' investigation?
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22189 Posts
So why dear Republicans (xDaunt mostly) is he raging on twitter rather then appointing someone to do this 'much needed' investigation? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On October 30 2017 23:57 Gorsameth wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but as President Trump has the power to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary over the Steele dossier right? So why dear Republicans (xDaunt mostly) is he raging on twitter rather then appointing someone to do this 'much needed' investigation? No, he does not. The Presidency has a lot of powers, but that is not one of them. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On October 30 2017 23:53 Doodsmack wrote: I'm sure Trump knew nothing about Manafort's criminal past, which included lobbying on behalf on Russian government (not just Ukraine government) interests. It is a total and complete coincidence that Manafort lived in Trump Tower prior to the campaign. It is also a total and complete coincidence that Manafort attend the Trump Jr meeting in which Trump Jr was promised damaging information from Hillary, coming from the Russian government as part of the Russian government's efforts to help Trump win. And it is a total and complete coincidence that shortly after said meeting, Trump tweeted about Hillary's missing emails, and not long later, publicly called for Russia to steal Hillary's missing emails. The Trump campaign's stated a willingness to collude, and there were full scale efforts by Russia to help Trump win - but this is all a witch hunt, and we should focus on Hillary instead! Also: - Roger Stone contacted or attempted to contact Wikileaks to facilitate email hacking. - Manafort contacted a Russian billionaire to offer briefings on the Trump campaign. - Flynn engaged a Republican consultant to search the dark web for hackers who could find Hillary's missing emails. - The Trump administration wanted to lift Russian sanctions soon after taking office. - Flynn contacted Russia at the time Obama was increasing sanctions to say that the Trump administration would lift them. - Kushner met with the head of a Russian state bank to discuss setting up a back channel. - There were at least two other attempts at back channels (Erik Prince). It is simply disingenuous to say this investigation and the attention on it is any sort of political charade. Take off your partisan blinders people. | ||
KwarK
United States43799 Posts
On October 31 2017 00:00 TheLordofAwesome wrote: No, he does not. The Presidency has a lot of powers, but that is not one of them. He can direct the FBI to investigate something, surely. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On October 30 2017 23:57 Gorsameth wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but as President Trump has the power to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary over the Steele dossier right? So why dear Republicans (xDaunt mostly) is he raging on twitter rather then appointing someone to do this 'much needed' investigation? Because unlike when he lued avout having proof of Obama's birth certificate being fake or proof that his college records were fake if he appoints a prosecutor they have to come out with findings and make them public and the problem with that is Trump knows it's a nothing story. Trump os not smart, but he knows how to use people, and a made-up scandal involving Russia uranium and Clinton is the perfect lie to get out of trouble, but if he persues it and its shown quickly there is nothing there he loses that lie. | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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doomdonker
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On October 30 2017 23:59 Mohdoo wrote: I get the feeling they'll get kushner in the same way. Dude has had some serious debt and likely wondered how he could get in on the stuff manafort was doing. Kushner is likely the "high ranking official" described in all of these indictments. There's specific mention of emails and Kushner is just the man to run a private email server in the same way Clinton decided to run a private email server. Kushner might have just fucked everyone because he's the guy who convinced Trump to fire Comey, leading to Mueller being appointed, and he's also the guy who helped the feds nail George if he's the high ranking official frequently refereed to in his indictment. Which leads up to George being the sort of idiot to document close to everything from trying to set up meetings between Russia and the Trump campaign to talking to "Putin's niece". | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22189 Posts
On October 31 2017 00:00 TheLordofAwesome wrote: No, he does not. The Presidency has a lot of powers, but that is not one of them. The Attorney General can? So Trump can get Sessions to do it? Almost the same thing. Why doesn't Trump get Sessions to appoint someone? (obviously because its fake but still, its just another point that Republicans seem to gloss over). | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 31 2017 00:18 xDaunt wrote: The Papadopoulos confession is a different animal than the Manafort indictment. It very clearly spells out problems for the campaign. The one thing that stands out about it is that the "senior Trump campaign adviser" is not named. The logical conclusion is that it's Manafort, which suggests that Mueller has more up his sleeve as it pertains to Manafort. One other nugget from Papadopoulos that may not be immediately clear is that it clearly illustrates they're willing to use Trump's statements to the press and to the public as confirmatory evidence-there's a mention of "The Campaign" speaking to the WSJ that's actually one of Trump's interviews. That's a bad sign if Comey does come up, when Trump's statements to the press were REAL dumb. And when you're dealing with an investigation and not the public "I never said that" doesn't hold up. | ||
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doomdonker
90 Posts
Only a coincidence I'm sure. Also: ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNZL_6dUEAEQ9aq.jpg:large) ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNZQfWRWAAUtQnA.jpg) Seriously, did these people not watch The Wire? | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On October 31 2017 00:29 doomdonker wrote: https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/925008563600347138 Only a coincidence I'm sure. Also: Seriously, did these people not watch The Wire? That's damning. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 31 2017 00:00 TheLordofAwesome wrote: No, he does not. The Presidency has a lot of powers, but that is not one of them. He instructs his attorney general to do so. He has the option to fire his attorney general if he does not comply with the order. Obviously, this is another time Trump blows hot air on a subject and will likely take no effective action. | ||
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doomdonker
90 Posts
This also goes full circle back to Jeff Sessions because Sessions was George's boss. Sessions headed policy and George was a policy adviser. As everyone can surely remember, Sessions had some pretty shady meetings with Russians that he failed to disclose so I think the conclusion is starting to look a little bit clearer. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On October 31 2017 00:35 Dangermousecatdog wrote: I wonder what spiel Trump and his administration is planning to push out to bury these news. This news can't be buried. It's too big and too damning. | ||
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doomdonker
90 Posts
On October 31 2017 00:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote: This news can't be buried. It's too big and too damning. Everyone loves a crime drama like this unfolding. People love the spectacle. | ||
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