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On October 31 2017 00:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump is meeting with Sessions and others today privately. I expect he's going to demand they do something about the investigation one way or another, and I wouldn't be wholly surprised if Sessions opted to resign instead because he has no desire to be dragged into this mess and because his relationship with Trump is kinda at the "we're still together just for the kids" stage.
Sessions is already part of the mess. Why do you think he perjured himself multiple times over his contacts with Russia during the campaign? He discussed sanctions with Kislyak during the election, for god's sake. He likely may be one of the unnamed Trump campaign people in Papadopolous's indictment, because he was foreign policy team leader for Trump and had zero reservations about shady deals with shadier Russian spies.
Sessions is totally screwed by the investigation.
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On October 31 2017 00:48 doomdonker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 00:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On October 31 2017 00:35 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I wonder what spiel Trump and his administration is planning to push out to bury these news. This news can't be buried. It's too big and too damning. Everyone loves a crime drama like this unfolding. People love the spectacle.
True. I for one certainly enjoy watching this investigation unfold.
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On October 31 2017 00:50 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 00:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump is meeting with Sessions and others today privately. I expect he's going to demand they do something about the investigation one way or another, and I wouldn't be wholly surprised if Sessions opted to resign instead because he has no desire to be dragged into this mess and because his relationship with Trump is kinda at the "we're still together just for the kids" stage. Sessions is already part of the mess. Why do you think he perjured himself multiple times over his contacts with Russia during the campaign? He discussed sanctions with Kislyak during the election, for god's sake. He likely may be one of the unnamed Trump campaign people in Papadopolous's indictment, because he was foreign policy team leader for Trump and had zero reservations about shady deals with shadier Russian spies. Sessions is totally screwed by the investigation.
Right. Sessions doesn't want to be dragged further into the mess. He's in trouble, but maybe he can cop a good enough plea deal if he doesn't obstruct more.
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I think it is time for a serious poll about what Trump will do.
Poll: What Will Trump Do?Rage on Twitter about Hillary. (20) 74% Fire Mueller himself, provoke full-blown constitutional crisis.. (4) 15% Monday Night Massacre, firing acting AGs until he gets one who will fire Mueller. (3) 11% 27 total votes Your vote: What Will Trump Do? (Vote): Fire Mueller himself, provoke full-blown constitutional crisis..
(Vote): Monday Night Massacre, firing acting AGs until he gets one who will fire Mueller.
(Vote): Rage on Twitter about Hillary.
On October 31 2017 00:55 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 00:50 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On October 31 2017 00:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump is meeting with Sessions and others today privately. I expect he's going to demand they do something about the investigation one way or another, and I wouldn't be wholly surprised if Sessions opted to resign instead because he has no desire to be dragged into this mess and because his relationship with Trump is kinda at the "we're still together just for the kids" stage. Sessions is already part of the mess. Why do you think he perjured himself multiple times over his contacts with Russia during the campaign? He discussed sanctions with Kislyak during the election, for god's sake. He likely may be one of the unnamed Trump campaign people in Papadopolous's indictment, because he was foreign policy team leader for Trump and had zero reservations about shady deals with shadier Russian spies. Sessions is totally screwed by the investigation. Right. Sessions doesn't want to be dragged further into the mess. He's in trouble, but maybe he can cop a good enough plea deal if he doesn't obstruct more.
Oh yeah, that seems totally plausible. His actions over the past few months have struck me as those of someone who is trying not to commit any more federal crimes. I think Sessions, as a skilled and experienced lawyer, knew that Mueller's appointment was extremely serious business and that he was one of Mueller's targets. Sessions was also probably smart enough to realize that attempts to obstruct Mueller were not going to work out well for him, to put it lightly (compare Sessions's behavior to that of Devin Nunes....).
Thus his behavior over the last six months makes a lot of sense. He's using what power he does have to go after pot smokers. But he's been keeping his head down about Mueller's investigation, even while Trump has been raging about it openly.
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I took a look at /r/the_donald and they seem to be going with raging about Kevin Spacey and "pedosatanism" so there's a chance he'll take that angle.
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This is the response from the right:
+ Show Spoiler +"Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying. He committed perjury if he lied under oath. He's admitting to a role he played as advisor. Nowhere does he say Trump directly or he directly colluded with Russia to change votes. There is more to come, ZERO to do with Trump himself so far."
Then I posted the whole case article on their reply, and they haven't responded at all... It even says he declares perjury at the bottom of the case.
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On October 31 2017 01:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
This is the response from the right:
"Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying. He committed perjury if he lied under oath. He's admitting to a role he played as advisor. Nowhere does he say Trump directly or he directly colluded with Russia to change votes. There is more to come, ZERO to do with Trump himself so far."
Then I posted the whole case article on their reply, and they haven't responded at all... It even says he declares perjury at the bottom of the case.
Oh so it's this old strawman. Nobody says that Russia changed electronic vote totals.
What message board did you get this from?
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It's from a friends right wing trump facebook group.
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Most of the big Trump Facebook pages like God Emperor Trump are really sticking to the Kevin Spacey pedo stuff lol, what a weird diversion.
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On October 31 2017 01:09 farvacola wrote:
Most of the big Trump Facebook pages like God Emperor Trump are really sticking to the Kevin Spacey pedo stuff lol, what a weird diversion.
What the hell even is this, can someone please "enlighten" me?
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On October 31 2017 01:11 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 01:09 farvacola wrote:
Most of the big Trump Facebook pages like God Emperor Trump are really sticking to the Kevin Spacey pedo stuff lol, what a weird diversion. What the hell even is this, can someone please "enlighten" me?
Kevin Spacey, Bill Clinton, and Epstein on a plane having sex with infants while Hillary murders pizzas or something.
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Basically, some actor dude has come out with allegations of sexual abuse against Kevin Spacey, the likes of which took place when dude was 14. It's not an altogether improbable story given all the shit that's shaking out of Hollywood these days, but yeah, it has pretty much nothing to do with Trump, which is where theories like the one mentioned by KwarK come in.
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On October 31 2017 01:11 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 01:09 farvacola wrote:
Most of the big Trump Facebook pages like God Emperor Trump are really sticking to the Kevin Spacey pedo stuff lol, what a weird diversion. What the hell even is this, can someone please "enlighten" me?
Actor Anthony Rapp has accused Kevin Spacey of making a sexual advance at him when Rapp was 14, Buzzfeed reported Sunday.
In an interview with Buzzfeed, Rapp said Spacey picked him up, put him on his bed and "was trying to get with me sexually." Spacey was 26 at the time.
In response to the allegations, Spacey tweeted that he was "beyond horrified to hear [Rapp's] story."
Spacey tweeted: "I honestly do not remember the encounter, it would have been over 30 years ago.
"But if I did behave then as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior, and I am sorry for the feelings he describes having carried with him all these years."
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Kevin Spacey decided to come out as a Pedo today, but then tried to divert his pedoness by using his "coming out of the closet" moment. So he says he's gay, then apologized to a boy he made a move on when he was 14yrs old after he was accused.
So now, the right is using this story to try and deflect any attention from George and Manafort.
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Annnnnd the follow up response:
+ Show Spoiler +I read the entire thing. Nowhere does it say that Russian officials colluded with Trump or his campaign to change the outcome of votes. All the statement reads is how meetings were requested to be arranged to discuss foreign policy because Trump, unlike others, wants us to have good relations with Russia.
Russian parties with links to the Kremlin may have wanted to meet with Trump, but nowhere in this statement does it say such meeting was actually arranged and such incident took place. All this talks about are meetings that took place between certain people in order to attempt to set up meetings with other people that never ended up occurring. NO VOTES CHANGED.
The reason he is pleading guilty is because he committed perjury, gave false testimony under oath. This charge is not "colluding with Russia," the charge is "False Statements" NOT treason.
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On October 31 2017 01:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Kevin Spacey decided to come out as a Pedo today, but then tried to divert his pedoness by using his "coming out of the closet" moment. So he says he's gay, then apologized to a boy he made a move on when he was 14yrs old after he was accused.
So now, the right is using this story to try and deflect any attention from George and Manafort.
Those two things have nothing to do with each other.
A selection of jewels from the Breitbart comments section (always a good meter of where Trump's base is on any given issue.)
"Obama conspired with the FBI to spy on his political opponents to alter the election" is going to be the way the clickservatives (Rush, Hannity, the WSJ editorial board apparently) run with the news today I bet.
Finley • 38 minutes ago
While Mueller is busy handing out parking tickets, the crime of the century is emerging. Obama Admin conspired with the FBI to spy on a political opponent in order to change the election!
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hatelooters Finley • 31 minutes ago
Mueller will never charge Hillary or the Kenyan.. He works for them..
Mueller must end this stupid investigation.. After wasting so much funds, all Mueller could get is Manafout pleading guilty to these useless charges?
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WCAGA hatelooters • 26 minutes ago
Let's not Forget...
Manafort has Close TIES to the Podesta Group!
I'd LOVE to know how THIS GUY became Trump's Campaign Manager!
Papadopoulos and Manafort LOOK like "plants"!
I'd also like to know why No ONE is talking about this?
From what I've seen/read, Manafort has a better "relationship" with Clinton's Campaign than he does with Trump's.
FACT IS...Trump booted Manafort RIGHT AFTER he found about his relationship to Podesta/Russians. This cannot and should not be Ignored!
Politico 8/19/16: "Podesta Group retains outside counsel over Manafort-related scandal"
This is getting very Interesting!
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Sick of Libs WCAGA • 20 minutes ago
Right before I saw your post, I was reading the article you mention! It is completely insane that there's so much real evidence against Hillary's campaign and The Podesta Group, but it's totally ignored in favor of speculation against Trump!
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LEEPERMAX Sick of Libs • 6 minutes ago
So who exactly is Mueller accountable to?
It doesn’t appear Mueller has any direct supervision. Sessions recused himself, and under the same theory, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has effectively recused himself because of his involvement in the process by writing a memo to Trump recommending James Comey be fired. So who exactly is Mueller accountable to? If he doesn’t have a boss, then the Constitution requires that he be confirmed by the Senate like all other executive appointees.
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mdpUSA Sick of Libs • 3 minutes ago
Can you show me this article your talking about?? I have a Libtard that needs evidence of Hillary colluding with the Russians.
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On October 31 2017 01:01 KwarK wrote:
I took a look at /r/the_donald and they seem to be going with raging about Kevin Spacey and "pedosatanism" so there's a chance he'll take that angle.
Kevin Spacey is Frank Underwood is Bill Clinton, so Hillary is clearly complicit.
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On October 31 2017 01:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:Annnnnd the follow up response: + Show Spoiler +I read the entire thing. Nowhere does it say that Russian officials colluded with Trump or his campaign to change the outcome of votes. All the statement reads is how meetings were requested to be arranged to discuss foreign policy because Trump, unlike others, wants us to have good relations with Russia.
Russian parties with links to the Kremlin may have wanted to meet with Trump, but nowhere in this statement does it say such meeting was actually arranged and such incident took place. All this talks about are meetings that took place between certain people in order to attempt to set up meetings with other people that never ended up occurring. NO VOTES CHANGED.
The reason he is pleading guilty is because he committed perjury, gave false testimony under oath. This charge is not "colluding with Russia," the charge is "False Statements" NOT treason.
Doubling down on strawmanning the no votes changed narrative. I'm guessing that's what FNC and EIB are going to run with. That, and "Obama used the FBI to spy on his political opponents to sway the election." Ridiculous.
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The tweet says the campaign official mentioned in the footnote of pg 8 of George P's indictment is Paul Manafort. That particular language was revealed in WaPo's reporting on Manafort months ago. I knew I'd seen those words before, couldn't remember where.
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On October 31 2017 01:09 farvacola wrote:
Most of the big Trump Facebook pages like God Emperor Trump are really sticking to the Kevin Spacey pedo stuff lol, what a weird diversion.
The basic framework they have is: Clintons, other deep state actors and hollywood have shared a common interest in pedophile sex rings. This is why Hollywood heavily leans liberal. Kevin Spacey represents a soft spot in their conspiracy coverup. By digging hard on Spacey, the Clintons will eventually be taken down with Bill Clinton being the de facto leader of this entire operation.
Furthermore, they believe the entire Russia fiasco is a distraction from the pedo ring, lol.
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