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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23422 Posts
October 21 2017 12:16 GMT
#180801
On October 21 2017 21:05 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
Air Force could recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to address serious shortage

WASHINGTON — President Trump signed an executive order Friday allowing the Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to active duty to address a shortage in combat fliers, the White House and Pentagon announced.

By law, only 25 retired officers can be brought back to serve in any one branch. Trump's order removes those caps by expanding a state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush after 9/11, signaling what could be a significant escalation in the 16-year-old global war on terror.

"We anticipate that the Secretary of Defense will delegate the authority to the Secretary of the Air Force to recall up to 1,000 retired pilots for up to three years," Navy Cdr. Gary Ross, a Pentagon spokesman, said in a statement.

But the executive order itself is not specific to the Air Force, and could conceivably be used in the future to call up more officers and in other branches.

The Air Force needs about 1,500 pilots more than it has. Bonus programs and other incentives have not made up the shortfall.

The Air Force has been at the forefront of the Pentagon's battle against the Islamic State, flying most of the combat sorties in Iraq and Syria since 2014.

In June, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., labeled the pilot shortage a crisis that would prevent the Air Force from fulfilling its mission.

“This is a full-blown crisis, and if left unresolved, it will call into question the Air Force’s ability to accomplish its mission,” said McCain, chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

Richard Aboulafia, an aviation analyst and vice president of the Teal Group, said the shortage stemmed from a number of issues.

"One is competition from commercial airlines," Aboulafia said. "Another is delays and funding shortfalls in training. And, due to military operations, utilization of the aircraft and crew has been higher than expected."

On Capitol Hill, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and a member of Armed Services Committee, said that the fight against Islamic State and al-Qaeda linked terrorists will be expanding. He spoke to reporters while speaking about the four U.S. soldiers killed Oct. 4 in Niger.

Counter-terrorism rules under President Obama had been too restrictive and ineffective, Graham said.

“The war is morphing," Graham said. "You’re going to see more actions in Africa, not less. You’re going to see more aggression by the United States toward our enemies, not less. You’re going to have decisions made not in the White House but out in the field. And I support that entire construct.”

Last month, President Trump became the third president to renew the post-9/11 state of national emergency, which allows the president to call up the national guard, hire and fire officers and delay retirements.

Those extraordinary powers were supposed to be temporary. But even after 16 years, there's been no congressional oversight of the emergency.

source

Preparing for something big needing so many extra pilots on short notice?

I wonder what type of pilots they mean when they say they are short 1500. Surely a fighter pilot is still a wanted job? So probably boring drone operators or something?

Also how does 'calling people back from retirement' work? Can they force you to do something you don't want to? Is this like a focused draft order?


Basically the contract they sign says retirees can be recalled to active service any time for the rest of their lives. Various conditions can reduce the likelihood of being recalled. There are various other ways someone who considers themselves "out of the service" can be recalled to active duty as well.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11592 Posts
October 21 2017 13:15 GMT
#180802
On October 21 2017 21:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 21:05 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Air Force could recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to address serious shortage

WASHINGTON — President Trump signed an executive order Friday allowing the Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to active duty to address a shortage in combat fliers, the White House and Pentagon announced.

By law, only 25 retired officers can be brought back to serve in any one branch. Trump's order removes those caps by expanding a state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush after 9/11, signaling what could be a significant escalation in the 16-year-old global war on terror.

"We anticipate that the Secretary of Defense will delegate the authority to the Secretary of the Air Force to recall up to 1,000 retired pilots for up to three years," Navy Cdr. Gary Ross, a Pentagon spokesman, said in a statement.

But the executive order itself is not specific to the Air Force, and could conceivably be used in the future to call up more officers and in other branches.

The Air Force needs about 1,500 pilots more than it has. Bonus programs and other incentives have not made up the shortfall.

The Air Force has been at the forefront of the Pentagon's battle against the Islamic State, flying most of the combat sorties in Iraq and Syria since 2014.

In June, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., labeled the pilot shortage a crisis that would prevent the Air Force from fulfilling its mission.

“This is a full-blown crisis, and if left unresolved, it will call into question the Air Force’s ability to accomplish its mission,” said McCain, chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

Richard Aboulafia, an aviation analyst and vice president of the Teal Group, said the shortage stemmed from a number of issues.

"One is competition from commercial airlines," Aboulafia said. "Another is delays and funding shortfalls in training. And, due to military operations, utilization of the aircraft and crew has been higher than expected."

On Capitol Hill, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and a member of Armed Services Committee, said that the fight against Islamic State and al-Qaeda linked terrorists will be expanding. He spoke to reporters while speaking about the four U.S. soldiers killed Oct. 4 in Niger.

Counter-terrorism rules under President Obama had been too restrictive and ineffective, Graham said.

“The war is morphing," Graham said. "You’re going to see more actions in Africa, not less. You’re going to see more aggression by the United States toward our enemies, not less. You’re going to have decisions made not in the White House but out in the field. And I support that entire construct.”

Last month, President Trump became the third president to renew the post-9/11 state of national emergency, which allows the president to call up the national guard, hire and fire officers and delay retirements.

Those extraordinary powers were supposed to be temporary. But even after 16 years, there's been no congressional oversight of the emergency.

source

Preparing for something big needing so many extra pilots on short notice?

I wonder what type of pilots they mean when they say they are short 1500. Surely a fighter pilot is still a wanted job? So probably boring drone operators or something?

Also how does 'calling people back from retirement' work? Can they force you to do something you don't want to? Is this like a focused draft order?


Basically the contract they sign says retirees can be recalled to active service any time for the rest of their lives. Various conditions can reduce the likelihood of being recalled. There are various other ways someone who considers themselves "out of the service" can be recalled to active duty as well.


And while fighter pilot is probably a wanted job, wanting to be a fighter pilot is not the only necessary qualification to be a fighter pilot. I assume that fighter pilots require a lot of training, something which probably takes up to a few years. So if you want fighter pilots now, you need trained fighter pilots, not people who want to become fighter pilots.

There are probably also some things that limit the amount of fighter pilots that you can train, stuff like the amount of fighter pilot instructors, fighter pilot simulators and fighter jets to train fighter pilots in. So you can invest lots of money and get more fighter pilots in a few years. But if you want them now, things are harder.

But needing an additional 1000 pilots sounds like either you suddenly changed your strategy in a way that requires way more pilots than you originally thought you would need, or you sucked at planning/didn't have the necessary founding a few years ago for the pilots that you need now.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9005 Posts
October 21 2017 14:27 GMT
#180803
Will we finally know who killed Kennedy? (My bet is that it was Cruz's father).
Donald Trump has announced he intends to allow the release of the "long blocked and classified" files on the John F Kennedy (JFK) assassination.

The announcement, made against the advice of the National Security Council, has prompted claims the President is seeking to distract from a series of negative stories.

The declaration was made on Twitter, with the President saying: "Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened."

Source
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 21 2017 14:33 GMT
#180804
I wonder why the NSC doesn't want it released. too many details about how secret service protection works? not enough time passed yet? (iirc some declassification things wait until ~75 years after, so everyone involved is dead/noone is exposed)
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 21 2017 14:38 GMT
#180805
On October 21 2017 21:05 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
Air Force could recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to address serious shortage

WASHINGTON — President Trump signed an executive order Friday allowing the Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to active duty to address a shortage in combat fliers, the White House and Pentagon announced.

By law, only 25 retired officers can be brought back to serve in any one branch. Trump's order removes those caps by expanding a state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush after 9/11, signaling what could be a significant escalation in the 16-year-old global war on terror.

"We anticipate that the Secretary of Defense will delegate the authority to the Secretary of the Air Force to recall up to 1,000 retired pilots for up to three years," Navy Cdr. Gary Ross, a Pentagon spokesman, said in a statement.

But the executive order itself is not specific to the Air Force, and could conceivably be used in the future to call up more officers and in other branches.

The Air Force needs about 1,500 pilots more than it has. Bonus programs and other incentives have not made up the shortfall.

The Air Force has been at the forefront of the Pentagon's battle against the Islamic State, flying most of the combat sorties in Iraq and Syria since 2014.

In June, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., labeled the pilot shortage a crisis that would prevent the Air Force from fulfilling its mission.

“This is a full-blown crisis, and if left unresolved, it will call into question the Air Force’s ability to accomplish its mission,” said McCain, chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

Richard Aboulafia, an aviation analyst and vice president of the Teal Group, said the shortage stemmed from a number of issues.

"One is competition from commercial airlines," Aboulafia said. "Another is delays and funding shortfalls in training. And, due to military operations, utilization of the aircraft and crew has been higher than expected."

On Capitol Hill, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and a member of Armed Services Committee, said that the fight against Islamic State and al-Qaeda linked terrorists will be expanding. He spoke to reporters while speaking about the four U.S. soldiers killed Oct. 4 in Niger.

Counter-terrorism rules under President Obama had been too restrictive and ineffective, Graham said.

“The war is morphing," Graham said. "You’re going to see more actions in Africa, not less. You’re going to see more aggression by the United States toward our enemies, not less. You’re going to have decisions made not in the White House but out in the field. And I support that entire construct.”

Last month, President Trump became the third president to renew the post-9/11 state of national emergency, which allows the president to call up the national guard, hire and fire officers and delay retirements.

Those extraordinary powers were supposed to be temporary. But even after 16 years, there's been no congressional oversight of the emergency.

source

Preparing for something big needing so many extra pilots on short notice?

I wonder what type of pilots they mean when they say they are short 1500. Surely a fighter pilot is still a wanted job? So probably boring drone operators or something?

Also how does 'calling people back from retirement' work? Can they force you to do something you don't want to? Is this like a focused draft order?

1000-1500 sounds like a lot... I guess lots of retired fighter pilots have never handled a drone before either simply because it wasn't a thing during the time they served for the air force but then again I'd also assume having experience as someone flying (any kind of) aircraft would probably help?

But the Trump military build-up is pretty big so it really could be that so many more are needed than what people expected 2 years ago and it's really "normal" fighter pilots. Likey, you'd only take as many as you think you'll need in the future because all that training, flighter simulator, flight hours in a real fighter and whatever else is expensive as fuck. And then comes Trump and you need 1.5k more than you thought you'd need?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21912 Posts
October 21 2017 14:39 GMT
#180806
Maybe he needs that many so the US can bomb all of NK at the same time.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 21 2017 14:59 GMT
#180807

Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-21 15:25:19
October 21 2017 15:22 GMT
#180808
On October 21 2017 23:59 Nevuk wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/921709468055896064
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/921724821939130369


LOL the Obama bogeyman is back?

Also is that a Russian troll account?
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9005 Posts
October 21 2017 15:24 GMT
#180809
Classified information is usually released after 50 years. And it's been 50 years. You're thinking of copyright law perhaps?
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 21 2017 15:33 GMT
#180810
On October 21 2017 23:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Will we finally know who killed Kennedy? (My bet is that it was Cruz's father).
Show nested quote +
Donald Trump has announced he intends to allow the release of the "long blocked and classified" files on the John F Kennedy (JFK) assassination.

The announcement, made against the advice of the National Security Council, has prompted claims the President is seeking to distract from a series of negative stories.

The declaration was made on Twitter, with the President saying: "Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened."

Source

Where's my story about how he's upgrading from pleasing white supremacists to pleasing conspiracy nuts?
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43160 Posts
October 21 2017 15:36 GMT
#180811
There isn't a uranium Clinton scandal.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9005 Posts
October 21 2017 15:36 GMT
#180812
On October 22 2017 00:33 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 23:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Will we finally know who killed Kennedy? (My bet is that it was Cruz's father).
Donald Trump has announced he intends to allow the release of the "long blocked and classified" files on the John F Kennedy (JFK) assassination.

The announcement, made against the advice of the National Security Council, has prompted claims the President is seeking to distract from a series of negative stories.

The declaration was made on Twitter, with the President saying: "Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened."

Source

Where's my story about how he's upgrading from pleasing white supremacists to pleasing conspiracy nuts?

Ask GH. I've wanted to read these files since the 90s when I learned about the assassination. Should be interesting.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-21 15:39:00
October 21 2017 15:38 GMT
#180813
On October 22 2017 00:33 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 23:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Will we finally know who killed Kennedy? (My bet is that it was Cruz's father).
Donald Trump has announced he intends to allow the release of the "long blocked and classified" files on the John F Kennedy (JFK) assassination.

The announcement, made against the advice of the National Security Council, has prompted claims the President is seeking to distract from a series of negative stories.

The declaration was made on Twitter, with the President saying: "Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened."

Source

Where's my story about how he's upgrading from pleasing white supremacists to pleasing conspiracy nuts?


He has been pandering to them for years though, at least this one hopefully helps end a conspiracy theory.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 21 2017 15:51 GMT
#180814
On October 22 2017 00:33 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 23:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Will we finally know who killed Kennedy? (My bet is that it was Cruz's father).
Donald Trump has announced he intends to allow the release of the "long blocked and classified" files on the John F Kennedy (JFK) assassination.

The announcement, made against the advice of the National Security Council, has prompted claims the President is seeking to distract from a series of negative stories.

The declaration was made on Twitter, with the President saying: "Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened."

Source

Where's my story about how he's upgrading from pleasing white supremacists to pleasing conspiracy nuts?


I'm not sure about the first part but the second part is pretty clear, and it's also pretty clear that he's one of them.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 21 2017 16:02 GMT
#180815
In the hours after President Donald Trump said on an Oct. 17 radio broadcast that he had contacted nearly every family that had lost a military service member this year, the White House was hustling to learn from the Pentagon the identities and contact information for those families, according to an internal Defense Department email.

The email exchange, which has not been previously reported, shows that senior White House aides were aware on the day the president made the statement that it was not accurate — but that they should try to make it accurate as soon as possible, given the gathering controversy.

Not only had the president not contacted virtually all the families of military personnel killed this year, the White House did not even have an up-to-date list of those who had been killed.

The exchange between the White House and the Defense secretary’s office occurred about 5 p.m. on Oct. 17. The White House asked the Pentagon for information about surviving family members of all servicemembers killed after Trump’s inauguration so that the president could be sure to contact all of them.

Capt. Hallock Mohler, the executive secretary to Defense Secretary James Mattis, provided the White House with information in the 5 p.m. email about how each servicemember had died and the identity of his or her survivors, including phone numbers.

The email’s subject line was, “Condolence Letters Since 20 January 2017.”

Mohler indicated in the email that he was responding to a request from the president’s staff for information through Ylber Bajraktari, an aide on the National Security Council. The objective was to figure out who among so-called Gold Star families of the fallen Trump had yet to call. Mohler’s email said that the president’s aides “reached out to Ylber looking for the following ASAP from DOD.”

Trump had said in a Fox News Radio interview earlier that day that he had contacted the families of “virtually everybody” in the military who had been killed since he was inaugurated.

“I have called, I believe, everybody — but certainly I’ll use the word virtually everybody,” Trump said.

Since then, the Associated Press contacted 20 families and found that half had not heard from Trump. It is not clear how many of the families that have heard from the president received the calls this week, since the controversy over his contacts with military families erupted. It is not clear when the White House first asked for data on Gold Star families, but it is clear that the answers had not been provided before Tuesday.

The Pentagon email indicates that 21 military personnel had been killed in action during Trump’s tenure, and an additional 44 had been killed by means other than enemy fire, such as ship collisions that took 17 sailors’ lives in the Pacific this summer.

Trump has clearly been active in reaching out to military families who have suffered the ultimate loss, as the AP reports show.

But the White House-Pentagon email scramble Tuesday undermines the veracity of Trump’s statement about his record of contacting all Gold Star families. The internal document also sheds light on how the White House staff, on this and other occasions, has had to go into damage-control mode when the president makes inaccurate statements.

On Oct. 18, the day after the president’s aides had sought and received the Gold Star family data from the Pentagon, a reporter at a White House press conference asked Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders whether Trump had in fact contacted all the families.

“The president’s made contact with all of the families that have been presented to him through the White House Military Office,” she replied. “All of the individuals that the president has been presented with through the proper protocol have been contacted through that process.”

That language is hedged. “Made contact” does not mean a phone call necessarily, and “through that process” could mean letters of condolence or other forms.

The administration echoed Sanders’ language Friday night.

“The White House ensured that the President had contacted all families of soldiers killed in action that had been presented to him through existing protocols,” spokesman Raj Shah said in an email.


http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/after-trump-claim-white-house-still-lacked-casualty-list
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-21 16:19:13
October 21 2017 16:18 GMT
#180816
On October 22 2017 01:02 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
In the hours after President Donald Trump said on an Oct. 17 radio broadcast that he had contacted nearly every family that had lost a military service member this year, the White House was hustling to learn from the Pentagon the identities and contact information for those families, according to an internal Defense Department email.

The email exchange, which has not been previously reported, shows that senior White House aides were aware on the day the president made the statement that it was not accurate — but that they should try to make it accurate as soon as possible, given the gathering controversy.

Not only had the president not contacted virtually all the families of military personnel killed this year, the White House did not even have an up-to-date list of those who had been killed.

The exchange between the White House and the Defense secretary’s office occurred about 5 p.m. on Oct. 17. The White House asked the Pentagon for information about surviving family members of all servicemembers killed after Trump’s inauguration so that the president could be sure to contact all of them.

Capt. Hallock Mohler, the executive secretary to Defense Secretary James Mattis, provided the White House with information in the 5 p.m. email about how each servicemember had died and the identity of his or her survivors, including phone numbers.

The email’s subject line was, “Condolence Letters Since 20 January 2017.”

Mohler indicated in the email that he was responding to a request from the president’s staff for information through Ylber Bajraktari, an aide on the National Security Council. The objective was to figure out who among so-called Gold Star families of the fallen Trump had yet to call. Mohler’s email said that the president’s aides “reached out to Ylber looking for the following ASAP from DOD.”

Trump had said in a Fox News Radio interview earlier that day that he had contacted the families of “virtually everybody” in the military who had been killed since he was inaugurated.

“I have called, I believe, everybody — but certainly I’ll use the word virtually everybody,” Trump said.

Since then, the Associated Press contacted 20 families and found that half had not heard from Trump. It is not clear how many of the families that have heard from the president received the calls this week, since the controversy over his contacts with military families erupted. It is not clear when the White House first asked for data on Gold Star families, but it is clear that the answers had not been provided before Tuesday.

The Pentagon email indicates that 21 military personnel had been killed in action during Trump’s tenure, and an additional 44 had been killed by means other than enemy fire, such as ship collisions that took 17 sailors’ lives in the Pacific this summer.

Trump has clearly been active in reaching out to military families who have suffered the ultimate loss, as the AP reports show.

But the White House-Pentagon email scramble Tuesday undermines the veracity of Trump’s statement about his record of contacting all Gold Star families. The internal document also sheds light on how the White House staff, on this and other occasions, has had to go into damage-control mode when the president makes inaccurate statements.

On Oct. 18, the day after the president’s aides had sought and received the Gold Star family data from the Pentagon, a reporter at a White House press conference asked Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders whether Trump had in fact contacted all the families.

“The president’s made contact with all of the families that have been presented to him through the White House Military Office,” she replied. “All of the individuals that the president has been presented with through the proper protocol have been contacted through that process.”

That language is hedged. “Made contact” does not mean a phone call necessarily, and “through that process” could mean letters of condolence or other forms.

The administration echoed Sanders’ language Friday night.

“The White House ensured that the President had contacted all families of soldiers killed in action that had been presented to him through existing protocols,” spokesman Raj Shah said in an email.


http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/after-trump-claim-white-house-still-lacked-casualty-list


"all families presented to him" is also something entirely different from "all families"...

That does beg the question what kind of cases get presented and which ones don't and why not. Just out of curiosity
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21912 Posts
October 21 2017 16:20 GMT
#180817
On October 22 2017 01:18 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2017 01:02 Nevuk wrote:
In the hours after President Donald Trump said on an Oct. 17 radio broadcast that he had contacted nearly every family that had lost a military service member this year, the White House was hustling to learn from the Pentagon the identities and contact information for those families, according to an internal Defense Department email.

The email exchange, which has not been previously reported, shows that senior White House aides were aware on the day the president made the statement that it was not accurate — but that they should try to make it accurate as soon as possible, given the gathering controversy.

Not only had the president not contacted virtually all the families of military personnel killed this year, the White House did not even have an up-to-date list of those who had been killed.

The exchange between the White House and the Defense secretary’s office occurred about 5 p.m. on Oct. 17. The White House asked the Pentagon for information about surviving family members of all servicemembers killed after Trump’s inauguration so that the president could be sure to contact all of them.

Capt. Hallock Mohler, the executive secretary to Defense Secretary James Mattis, provided the White House with information in the 5 p.m. email about how each servicemember had died and the identity of his or her survivors, including phone numbers.

The email’s subject line was, “Condolence Letters Since 20 January 2017.”

Mohler indicated in the email that he was responding to a request from the president’s staff for information through Ylber Bajraktari, an aide on the National Security Council. The objective was to figure out who among so-called Gold Star families of the fallen Trump had yet to call. Mohler’s email said that the president’s aides “reached out to Ylber looking for the following ASAP from DOD.”

Trump had said in a Fox News Radio interview earlier that day that he had contacted the families of “virtually everybody” in the military who had been killed since he was inaugurated.

“I have called, I believe, everybody — but certainly I’ll use the word virtually everybody,” Trump said.

Since then, the Associated Press contacted 20 families and found that half had not heard from Trump. It is not clear how many of the families that have heard from the president received the calls this week, since the controversy over his contacts with military families erupted. It is not clear when the White House first asked for data on Gold Star families, but it is clear that the answers had not been provided before Tuesday.

The Pentagon email indicates that 21 military personnel had been killed in action during Trump’s tenure, and an additional 44 had been killed by means other than enemy fire, such as ship collisions that took 17 sailors’ lives in the Pacific this summer.

Trump has clearly been active in reaching out to military families who have suffered the ultimate loss, as the AP reports show.

But the White House-Pentagon email scramble Tuesday undermines the veracity of Trump’s statement about his record of contacting all Gold Star families. The internal document also sheds light on how the White House staff, on this and other occasions, has had to go into damage-control mode when the president makes inaccurate statements.

On Oct. 18, the day after the president’s aides had sought and received the Gold Star family data from the Pentagon, a reporter at a White House press conference asked Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders whether Trump had in fact contacted all the families.

“The president’s made contact with all of the families that have been presented to him through the White House Military Office,” she replied. “All of the individuals that the president has been presented with through the proper protocol have been contacted through that process.”

That language is hedged. “Made contact” does not mean a phone call necessarily, and “through that process” could mean letters of condolence or other forms.

The administration echoed Sanders’ language Friday night.

“The White House ensured that the President had contacted all families of soldiers killed in action that had been presented to him through existing protocols,” spokesman Raj Shah said in an email.


http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/after-trump-claim-white-house-still-lacked-casualty-list


"all families presented to him" is also something entirely different from "all families"...

Now they can blame the 'process' and some nameless aid down the chain rather then Trump, which is what damage control is all about.
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Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
October 21 2017 19:46 GMT
#180818
Okay i found english links this time. I did some quotes to get draw some attention to the links.
This is a serious topic, very very serious.

You americans have the most GMO and other altered food in the world. Wouldnt it be good, to educate yourself on the issue? For some reason i had a much easier time finding way more stuff in swedish. And calling something conspiracy when there are evidence out there is nonsense.

Here is a link about GMO in english

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/04/12/how-monsanto-buys-science-promotes-cancer.aspx

Here are some quotes from it:

"Mounting evidence suggests that Monsanto knew about the hazards posed by glyphosate exposure, but failed to disclose this information to the public. Any time a corporation markets a harmful product to consumers as safe for use, it must be held accountable for the damage caused by that product.
Glyphosate is the product of both modern chemistry and a profoundly corrupt corporate culture. It is sad for our country and our people that such a powerful economic leader can only be trusted to put private greed before public health."



In fact, the only legal basis for allowing GE foods to be marketed in the U.S. is the FDA’s claim that these foods are inherently safe, a claim which is patently ridiculous. Documents released as a result of a lawsuit against the FDA reveal that the agency's own scientists warned their superiors about the detrimental risks of GE foods. But their warnings fell on deaf ears.






Here is another link in english
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/10/22/consumed-gmo-foods.aspx

Some quotes from it:

Between 1997 and 2002 the number of peanut allergies doubled, and the number of hospitalizations related to allergic reactions to food increased by 265 percent.
Between 1997 and 2011, food allergies (of all types) among children rose by 50 percent. Today, an estimated 15 million Americans and 17 million Europeans have some form of food allergy. Incidence of celiac disease and other forms of food intolerance have also become more common.
So is there something "foreign" in our food today that wasn't there before? Absolutely. There's a whole host of ingredients that could cause problems, including food dyes, artificial flavors, preservatives, various additives and, of course, GMOs.


Here is one link of politics in U.S

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/19/bribery-on-us-lawmakers.aspx
Article from 2012
Some quotes
Contrary to other nations, certain U.S. states are actually passing legislation that protects the use of genetically engineered seeds and allows for their unabated expansion!

Bills like these are essentially bought and paid for through the millions of dollars Monsanto and other biotech companies spend lobbying the U.S. government each year.


"Reform efforts" are in actuality little more than fake efforts to appease the critics. For example, the system forbids lobbyists from taking a Congressman to sit-down lunch for 25 dollars, but allows them to take him to a fundraising lunch—where food is served standing up—and give him 25,000 dollars extra to boot. So despite "reform efforts" to stop lobbyists from plying politicians with free meals, they still have all the same access, and all the same interaction with that Congressman—they just have to stand up to do it...


And while there have been efforts at reform, the system has never actually changed and continues to this day because the people who make the reforms are the people within the system itself



This link is about what happens to people that tries to find the "truth".
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/09/18/unicef-attacks-health-advocates.aspx
Alright, now that we've been labeled as "enablers of domestic eco-terrorism" as well—again by simply reporting on research that is published in peer-reviewed journals and interviewing educated researchers and professionals in the field—let's take a look at who's behind the name calling. The first author of this hit-piece is Jay Byrne, whose author's bio identifies him as president of v-Fluence Interactive Public Relations, Inc. Why does Mr. Byrne fail to mention in his bio that he was a former Monsanto executive?




Here is a link to how FDA works:
Written in 2012

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/13/drug-safety-whistleblower.aspx



Link about a new study vaccinated vs unvaccinated

http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/vaccinated-vs.-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker

Why are doctors who profit from vaccines the spokesmen for public health? Can government health agencies really be trusted to protect our children when they are so wedded to the pharmaceutical industry?



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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
October 21 2017 19:50 GMT
#180819
Dude, almost all of your links are from a site owned and operated by a known quack and the one remaining is a known peddler of bad science. You're not even trying.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 21 2017 19:55 GMT
#180820
So Foxxan, politically, what turned you on to this GMO/Vaccine stuff. You have two websites I have never heard of and wouldn't accidentally stumble upon.
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