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farvacola
United States18832 Posts
On September 24 2017 09:55 Wulfey_LA wrote: It is fitting that the Patriots are the most patriotic team in the NFL. Finally someone is willing to stand up to the PC left and fight to make this country great again. Prepare to get triggered: + Show Spoiler + Is that legit? | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32742 Posts
I'm fairly certain it's satire from that guy's Twitter account. | ||
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farvacola
United States18832 Posts
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Wulfey_LA
932 Posts
EDIT2: to below, if DonJR showed that to DJT and neither read it closely, I am fairly confident that DJT would at least cite support from the Patriots in a speech the next day. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23295 Posts
On September 24 2017 10:01 farvacola wrote: Lol thought so, these days it's hard to tell Odds Trump retweets it? | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
I promise right here and now to vote for R in the midterm if he re tweets it | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/xHlbE/de59a0a340.png) Excerpt from a recent NBC news & WSJ survey This is still such a weird phenomenon to me. As much as people disliked Hillary, even within the Democratic party, I don't recall people ever being labeled Clinton supporters to differentiate them from other Democrat voters. There were no Obama supporters, or Bush supporters, but Trump basically ended up with his own political party. Is this what happens when you elect a guy who is so divisive that he can't even unite most of his own party? It will be interesting to see what direction the Republican party goes in a few years after Trump is out of the picture and all those self-identifying Trump supporters need to find someone/something new to rally behind. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On September 24 2017 10:15 Tachion wrote: Excerpt from a recent NBC news & WSJ survey This is still such a weird phenomenon to me. As much as people disliked Hillary, even within the Democratic party, I don't recall people ever being labeled Clinton supporters to differentiate them from other Democrat voters. There were no Obama supporters, or Bush supporters, but Trump basically ended up with his own political party. Is this what happens when you elect a guy who is so divisive that he can't even unite most of his own party? It will be interesting to see what direction the Republican party goes in a few years after Trump is out of the picture and all those self-identifying Trump supporters need to find someone/something new to rally behind. you could probably see a similar, though milder, effect with Bernie. It's perhaps more a result of electing someone who's from a far faction of the party which doesn't get along well with (some of) the other factions. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On September 24 2017 10:15 Tachion wrote: Excerpt from a recent NBC news & WSJ survey This is still such a weird phenomenon to me. As much as people disliked Hillary, even within the Democratic party, I don't recall people ever being labeled Clinton supporters to differentiate them from other Democrat voters. There were no Obama supporters, or Bush supporters, but Trump basically ended up with his own political party. Is this what happens when you elect a guy who is so divisive that he can't even unite most of his own party? It will be interesting to see what direction the Republican party goes in a few years after Trump is out of the picture and all those self-identifying Trump supporters need to find someone/something new to rally behind. I think this is more what happens when you have party identity dissolving at the seams across the U.S., particularly in the Republican party thanks to the organized anti-establishment Tea Party movement, with historically low "Democrat" and "Republican" identification across the U.S. and more independents than any year in 75 years of polling from Pew. The Tea Party only made this worse, and though they don't have 2016 data posted here on Pew I would be astonished if it hadn't continued to trend upward. | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On September 24 2017 10:15 Tachion wrote: Excerpt from a recent NBC news & WSJ survey This is still such a weird phenomenon to me. As much as people disliked Hillary, even within the Democratic party, I don't recall people ever being labeled Clinton supporters to differentiate them from other Democrat voters. There were no Obama supporters, or Bush supporters, but Trump basically ended up with his own political party. Is this what happens when you elect a guy who is so divisive that he can't even unite most of his own party? It will be interesting to see what direction the Republican party goes in a few years after Trump is out of the picture and all those self-identifying Trump supporters need to find someone/something new to rally behind. Did you forget about Bernie voters? There was an obvious distinction between Clinton voters and Bernie voters. You got to understand one thing. There are very few respected Republican leaders left. In many ways, the Congressional leadership betrayed the Republican Party in ways Trump could only dream of. The poll makes sense. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On September 24 2017 09:16 Introvert wrote: These are generally patriotic and unifying. For a long time they weren't a left/right thing and it's a left-winger's tinted glasses that would see it as such. Edit: ok hopefully done for real. We'll see  No taking breaks from politics now. This will do great things for the political divide. Also, wow about the American flag and the military. The flag of the Republican Party and the military of the Republican Party, am I right? Trump has an impressive race to the bottom, but his competition is doing their best to beat him. It'll be close. | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
Side note, CNN has been playing the clip of Trump at the rally and bleeping out the word "bitch". Pretty surreal they feel they have to censor the words coming out of the president's mouth. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On September 24 2017 11:23 LegalLord wrote: If entertainers want to go political, then I will treat them as political commentators rather than entertainers. If they are ok with that result then go for it. PoC don't have the privilege of being able to just forget that racism is a thing anytime they feel like it. So the question becomes whether you consider the occasional statement or protest "going political". I wouldn't in this case. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
8998 Posts
On September 24 2017 11:23 LegalLord wrote: If entertainers want to go political, then I will treat them as political commentators rather than entertainers. If they are ok with that result then go for it. So you're going to boycott all sports any time someone does something you disagree with? | ||
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by.elite
Canada16 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
That's logic. By definition, they're political protesters. They demonstratively protest politics. For the right reasons, in my mind - but also in my mind, that doesn't make them somehow different than any other protester. I just like them more because they share my viewpoint. That, nothing else, is the difference. They're not "a special kind". So you're going to boycott all sports any time someone does something you disagree with? You boycott stuff that you disagree with? | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On September 24 2017 11:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: So you're going to boycott all sports any time someone does something you disagree with? Do you make it a habit to boycott political commentators? Also, do I seem like I like Trump? | ||
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Wulfey_LA
932 Posts
EDIT: I can already feel this debate coming. 3 pages long. Team Con will put up some condescending nonsense about how 'THEY' could possibly just mean some sort of totally A-Okay decapitation first strike. Team Lib will point out that DJT's feeble grasp of the issue and lack knowledge about any military options beyond a full nuclear strike preclude any minimal interpretation of 'THEY'. And we will wait another 48 hours for DJT to make clear that team Con was full shit, and team Lib was right, DJT meant 'THEY' in the 25 million sense. | ||
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