• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:39
CEST 09:39
KST 16:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!5Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters1Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)67Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6009 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 8002

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8000 8001 8002 8003 8004 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
July 05 2017 14:28 GMT
#160021
On July 05 2017 23:18 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:05 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:00 Plansix wrote:
On July 05 2017 22:56 Gorsameth wrote:
What has CNN done actually?

Threatened to release his personal info if he does something? That's entirely wrong for obvious reasons.
Did they release an internet mob on him? Or did 'the internet' do its usual thing and track him down and harass him on their own?

As far as I know, the internet tracked down his reddit account after he took credit for the .gif. Then a couple days later CNN found out who he was and tried to contact him. He purged his account after that and apologized. CNN then spoke with him and decided not to publish his name, but said they may do so in the future if he decides to change his story or something.

See, that last bit is the troubling part.
Thats basically threatening to sic an internet mob on someone and thats not ok.

Why should they protect him indefinitely without some assurance from him? Should they not be able to say publicly that they can change their mind? He made the .gif and celebrated when it was retweeted by the president. A .gif of CNN being assaulted by the president in an already hostile environment. He made that reddit account and posted all that racist garbage. Is CNN responsible to withhold his name and information forever just to protect him from the consequences of what he wrote? They could have just published his name and moved on. No one would have thought differently. Or waited until another outlet found him and let them report on him.



Come on. Memes are all over the internet with this type of stuff. The guy sounds like a total asshole and a likely racist but we all know this was the equivalent of saying something like "LOL TRUMP PWNS NEWB CNN"

Making this out to be advocating for violence is a huge reach and a dangerous precedent to set.



How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22485 Posts
July 05 2017 14:28 GMT
#160022
On July 05 2017 23:18 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:05 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:00 Plansix wrote:
On July 05 2017 22:56 Gorsameth wrote:
What has CNN done actually?

Threatened to release his personal info if he does something? That's entirely wrong for obvious reasons.
Did they release an internet mob on him? Or did 'the internet' do its usual thing and track him down and harass him on their own?

As far as I know, the internet tracked down his reddit account after he took credit for the .gif. Then a couple days later CNN found out who he was and tried to contact him. He purged his account after that and apologized. CNN then spoke with him and decided not to publish his name, but said they may do so in the future if he decides to change his story or something.

See, that last bit is the troubling part.
Thats basically threatening to sic an internet mob on someone and thats not ok.

Why should they protect him indefinitely without some assurance from him? Should they not be able to say publicly that they can change their mind? He made the .gif and celebrated when it was retweeted by the president. A .gif of CNN being assaulted by the president in an already hostile environment. He made that reddit account and posted all that racist garbage. Is CNN responsible to withhold his name and information forever just to protect him from the consequences of what he wrote? They could have just published his name and moved on. No one would have thought differently. Or waited until another outlet found him and let them report on him.

Protect him? Their not protecting him, anyone else is free to track him down.

But as a large corporation I believe they should be mindful of releasing personal information about people. We all know how internet mobs are and 'internet racist' or not. People shouldn't have their lives destroyed by an internet mob. That doesn't just go for CNN and this particular story but the world in general.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
July 05 2017 14:29 GMT
#160023
That's an interesting way to couch that seemingly limited study, but make no mistake, many a sincerely pathetic excuse will be made with stuff like that offered as support.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14160 Posts
July 05 2017 14:29 GMT
#160024
On July 05 2017 23:20 Ghostcom wrote:
How is his name in any shape or form newsworthy?

EDIT: As in: What does it add to the (non-)story of Trump retweeting a gif of him beating up a poorly shopped CNN-logo?
EDIT2: Also why didn't they simply write "The man who wishes to remain anonymous but is known as >insert handle< had this to say when CNN reached him for comment: >insert comment<. The man's identity is known to CNN" as is the standard phrasing in cases such as these.

By making a story entirely about him they're making him the story. If they release his name now he'll be a target and their readers who agree with them will attack them. They're effectively holding him hostage to prevent him from expressing his views. It doesn't matter how horrendous his views are they're still his protected views that they're threatening.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone could make a half baked first amendment violation argument out of this.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 05 2017 14:29 GMT
#160025
i don't see how a reservation of rights is supposedly controversial. it's pretty standard stuff. it's certainly possible that there's a little bit of implied "hey internet people maybe watch what you post and think about how'd feel if it was linked back to you", and honestly i don't see the problem with that. if you don't post garbage, then you don't have to worry about being associated with garbage.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
July 05 2017 14:30 GMT
#160026
I don't see the problem. CNN merely hopes that the redditor will change his way, that's not coercion.

Or maybe I have my stories mixed up, it's hard to keep track these days.
Logo
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 14:34:07
July 05 2017 14:33 GMT
#160027
On July 05 2017 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:20 Ghostcom wrote:
How is his name in any shape or form newsworthy?

EDIT: As in: What does it add to the (non-)story of Trump retweeting a gif of him beating up a poorly shopped CNN-logo?
EDIT2: Also why didn't they simply write "The man who wishes to remain anonymous but is known as >insert handle< had this to say when CNN reached him for comment: >insert comment<. The man's identity is known to CNN" as is the standard phrasing in cases such as these.

By making a story entirely about him they're making him the story. If they release his name now he'll be a target and their readers who agree with them will attack them. They're effectively holding him hostage to prevent him from expressing his views. It doesn't matter how horrendous his views are they're still his protected views that they're threatening.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone could make a half baked first amendment violation argument out of this.


Is there really no part of you that is bothered by the notion that you argue someone is prevented from expressing their views by the fact that their name will be associated to them?

There's this thing called "real life", when you go there and you speak, people can associate your name to the things you say. We should really do something about that cause that really prevents a bunch of people from expressing their views.
No will to live, no wish to die
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
July 05 2017 14:34 GMT
#160028
On July 05 2017 23:18 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:05 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:00 Plansix wrote:
On July 05 2017 22:56 Gorsameth wrote:
What has CNN done actually?

Threatened to release his personal info if he does something? That's entirely wrong for obvious reasons.
Did they release an internet mob on him? Or did 'the internet' do its usual thing and track him down and harass him on their own?

As far as I know, the internet tracked down his reddit account after he took credit for the .gif. Then a couple days later CNN found out who he was and tried to contact him. He purged his account after that and apologized. CNN then spoke with him and decided not to publish his name, but said they may do so in the future if he decides to change his story or something.

See, that last bit is the troubling part.
Thats basically threatening to sic an internet mob on someone and thats not ok.

Why should they protect him indefinitely without some assurance from him? Should they not be able to say publicly that they can change their mind? He made the .gif and celebrated when it was retweeted by the president. A .gif of CNN being assaulted by the president in an already hostile environment. He made that reddit account and posted all that racist garbage. Is CNN responsible to withhold his name and information forever just to protect him from the consequences of what he wrote? They could have just published his name and moved on. No one would have thought differently. Or waited until another outlet found him and let them report on him.


Why should they make that threat? If they release his info, fine. I don't think they should, I don't think his identity as creator of a shitty meme makes a difference, I don't think CNN being butthurt over this meme makes themselves look good in any way. It's not newsworthy to me, but so be it.

But them making that threat in print, that's wrong. That's almost coercion, to me. "Hey, we won't print your info, but if you make fun of us again, we'll let the internet know who you are."
Yargh
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14160 Posts
July 05 2017 14:34 GMT
#160029
On July 05 2017 23:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
i don't see how a reservation of rights is supposedly controversial. it's pretty standard stuff. it's certainly possible that there's a little bit of implied "hey internet people maybe watch what you post and think about how'd feel if it was linked back to you", and honestly i don't see the problem with that. if you don't post garbage, then you don't have to worry about being associated with garbage.

Its not the same as a restaurant saying "we reserve the fight not to serve anyone without a shirt and shoes". Its a news organization saying "we reserve the right to ruin someones life for what they believe if they don't stop sharing those views with people on the internet".

Does this mean that if I start a news organization I can have staff members spending their time tracking peoples real identities and threatening publicly to release them if they don't do what I want?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 05 2017 14:36 GMT
#160030
Y'all are missing the best part about what CNN has done. They've just given the trolls causus belli. CNN is about to be inundated by memes.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22485 Posts
July 05 2017 14:36 GMT
#160031
On July 05 2017 23:33 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:20 Ghostcom wrote:
How is his name in any shape or form newsworthy?

EDIT: As in: What does it add to the (non-)story of Trump retweeting a gif of him beating up a poorly shopped CNN-logo?
EDIT2: Also why didn't they simply write "The man who wishes to remain anonymous but is known as >insert handle< had this to say when CNN reached him for comment: >insert comment<. The man's identity is known to CNN" as is the standard phrasing in cases such as these.

By making a story entirely about him they're making him the story. If they release his name now he'll be a target and their readers who agree with them will attack them. They're effectively holding him hostage to prevent him from expressing his views. It doesn't matter how horrendous his views are they're still his protected views that they're threatening.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone could make a half baked first amendment violation argument out of this.


Is there really no part of you that is bothered by the notion that you argue someone is prevented from expressing their views by the fact that their name will be associated to them?

There's this thing called "real life", when you go there and you speak, people can associate your name to the things you say. We should really do something about that cause that really prevents a bunch of people from expressing their views.

Hiding his name is, for me, about internet mob 'justice' and not about personal responsibility.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 05 2017 14:36 GMT
#160032
On July 05 2017 23:28 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:18 Plansix wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:05 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:00 Plansix wrote:
On July 05 2017 22:56 Gorsameth wrote:
What has CNN done actually?

Threatened to release his personal info if he does something? That's entirely wrong for obvious reasons.
Did they release an internet mob on him? Or did 'the internet' do its usual thing and track him down and harass him on their own?

As far as I know, the internet tracked down his reddit account after he took credit for the .gif. Then a couple days later CNN found out who he was and tried to contact him. He purged his account after that and apologized. CNN then spoke with him and decided not to publish his name, but said they may do so in the future if he decides to change his story or something.

See, that last bit is the troubling part.
Thats basically threatening to sic an internet mob on someone and thats not ok.

Why should they protect him indefinitely without some assurance from him? Should they not be able to say publicly that they can change their mind? He made the .gif and celebrated when it was retweeted by the president. A .gif of CNN being assaulted by the president in an already hostile environment. He made that reddit account and posted all that racist garbage. Is CNN responsible to withhold his name and information forever just to protect him from the consequences of what he wrote? They could have just published his name and moved on. No one would have thought differently. Or waited until another outlet found him and let them report on him.

Protect him? Their not protecting him, anyone else is free to track him down.

But as a large corporation I believe they should be mindful of releasing personal information about people. We all know how internet mobs are and 'internet racist' or not. People shouldn't have their lives destroyed by an internet mob. That doesn't just go for CNN and this particular story but the world in general.

How are they not protecting him? They could have just published the story without ever speaking with him. They could have just published his name in the story after they confirmed he made the post. They decided not to after speaking with him.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14160 Posts
July 05 2017 14:38 GMT
#160033
On July 05 2017 23:33 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:20 Ghostcom wrote:
How is his name in any shape or form newsworthy?

EDIT: As in: What does it add to the (non-)story of Trump retweeting a gif of him beating up a poorly shopped CNN-logo?
EDIT2: Also why didn't they simply write "The man who wishes to remain anonymous but is known as >insert handle< had this to say when CNN reached him for comment: >insert comment<. The man's identity is known to CNN" as is the standard phrasing in cases such as these.

By making a story entirely about him they're making him the story. If they release his name now he'll be a target and their readers who agree with them will attack them. They're effectively holding him hostage to prevent him from expressing his views. It doesn't matter how horrendous his views are they're still his protected views that they're threatening.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone could make a half baked first amendment violation argument out of this.


Is there really no part of you that is bothered by the notion that you argue someone is prevented from expressing their views by the fact that their name will be associated to them?

There's this thing called "real life", when you go there and you speak, people can associate your name to the things you say. We should really do something about that cause that really prevents a bunch of people from expressing their views.

Its about protecting unpopular speech. Its not okay with an organization is going after people for expressing their protected right to free speech. A news organization doing this is only inviting people to go after other people because of what they belive. It can't matter morally what they believe be it its all the same.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 05 2017 14:40 GMT
#160034
On July 05 2017 23:34 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:18 Plansix wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:05 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:00 Plansix wrote:
On July 05 2017 22:56 Gorsameth wrote:
What has CNN done actually?

Threatened to release his personal info if he does something? That's entirely wrong for obvious reasons.
Did they release an internet mob on him? Or did 'the internet' do its usual thing and track him down and harass him on their own?

As far as I know, the internet tracked down his reddit account after he took credit for the .gif. Then a couple days later CNN found out who he was and tried to contact him. He purged his account after that and apologized. CNN then spoke with him and decided not to publish his name, but said they may do so in the future if he decides to change his story or something.

See, that last bit is the troubling part.
Thats basically threatening to sic an internet mob on someone and thats not ok.

Why should they protect him indefinitely without some assurance from him? Should they not be able to say publicly that they can change their mind? He made the .gif and celebrated when it was retweeted by the president. A .gif of CNN being assaulted by the president in an already hostile environment. He made that reddit account and posted all that racist garbage. Is CNN responsible to withhold his name and information forever just to protect him from the consequences of what he wrote? They could have just published his name and moved on. No one would have thought differently. Or waited until another outlet found him and let them report on him.


Why should they make that threat? If they release his info, fine. I don't think they should, I don't think his identity as creator of a shitty meme makes a difference, I don't think CNN being butthurt over this meme makes themselves look good in any way. It's not newsworthy to me, but so be it.

But them making that threat in print, that's wrong. That's almost coercion, to me. "Hey, we won't print your info, but if you make fun of us again, we'll let the internet know who you are."

To be 100% clear they did it voluntarily, were not obligated to do so and reserved the right to publish it later on if things changed.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 14:42:20
July 05 2017 14:40 GMT
#160035
i ran out of sympathy for people posting garbage on the internet years ago. forgive me if i don't feel bad for the guy who gets in trouble because offensive and hateful stuff he posted got back to him. the internet is a communication tool, not some romantic great democratizer or anonymous, consequence-free zone.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
July 05 2017 14:40 GMT
#160036
People go after one another for what they believe all over the internet, all the time, and folks have very little expectation of privacy in their public identity as constituted by public statements. CNN sucks and shouldn't have done this given its size and influence, but some of you just need to add some more salt in order for the pretzel to finish baking.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 05 2017 14:41 GMT
#160037
On July 05 2017 23:38 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:33 Nebuchad wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:20 Ghostcom wrote:
How is his name in any shape or form newsworthy?

EDIT: As in: What does it add to the (non-)story of Trump retweeting a gif of him beating up a poorly shopped CNN-logo?
EDIT2: Also why didn't they simply write "The man who wishes to remain anonymous but is known as >insert handle< had this to say when CNN reached him for comment: >insert comment<. The man's identity is known to CNN" as is the standard phrasing in cases such as these.

By making a story entirely about him they're making him the story. If they release his name now he'll be a target and their readers who agree with them will attack them. They're effectively holding him hostage to prevent him from expressing his views. It doesn't matter how horrendous his views are they're still his protected views that they're threatening.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone could make a half baked first amendment violation argument out of this.


Is there really no part of you that is bothered by the notion that you argue someone is prevented from expressing their views by the fact that their name will be associated to them?

There's this thing called "real life", when you go there and you speak, people can associate your name to the things you say. We should really do something about that cause that really prevents a bunch of people from expressing their views.

Its about protecting unpopular speech. Its not okay with an organization is going after people for expressing their protected right to free speech. A news organization doing this is only inviting people to go after other people because of what they belive. It can't matter morally what they believe be it its all the same.

He is free to express himself. He just can’t do so without using his name. So now he is exactly like every single CNN reporter.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 14:44:07
July 05 2017 14:42 GMT
#160038
On July 05 2017 23:41 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 23:38 Sermokala wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:33 Nebuchad wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
On July 05 2017 23:20 Ghostcom wrote:
How is his name in any shape or form newsworthy?

EDIT: As in: What does it add to the (non-)story of Trump retweeting a gif of him beating up a poorly shopped CNN-logo?
EDIT2: Also why didn't they simply write "The man who wishes to remain anonymous but is known as >insert handle< had this to say when CNN reached him for comment: >insert comment<. The man's identity is known to CNN" as is the standard phrasing in cases such as these.

By making a story entirely about him they're making him the story. If they release his name now he'll be a target and their readers who agree with them will attack them. They're effectively holding him hostage to prevent him from expressing his views. It doesn't matter how horrendous his views are they're still his protected views that they're threatening.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone could make a half baked first amendment violation argument out of this.


Is there really no part of you that is bothered by the notion that you argue someone is prevented from expressing their views by the fact that their name will be associated to them?

There's this thing called "real life", when you go there and you speak, people can associate your name to the things you say. We should really do something about that cause that really prevents a bunch of people from expressing their views.

Its about protecting unpopular speech. Its not okay with an organization is going after people for expressing their protected right to free speech. A news organization doing this is only inviting people to go after other people because of what they belive. It can't matter morally what they believe be it its all the same.

He is free to express himself. He just can’t do so without using his name. So now he is exactly like every single CNN reporter.


Except for such petty things as "reach", and "influence", and "defining the media cycle".
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 14:47:03
July 05 2017 14:43 GMT
#160039
nvm we aren't here to re kindle old discussions
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 05 2017 14:44 GMT
#160040
On July 05 2017 23:40 farvacola wrote:
People go after one another for what they believe all over the internet, all the time, and folks have very little expectation of privacy in their public identity as constituted by public statements. CNN sucks and shouldn't have done this given its size and influence, but some of you just need to add some more salt in order for the pretzel to finish baking.


Actually, this isn't really true when it comes to anonymous online statements. If you look at cases that concern online defamation -- particularly reviews posted on things like Yelp or Glassdoor -- courts are affording quite a bit of an expectation of privacy to the posters. For this reason, it's damned near impossible to use the judicial process to remove an online review.
Prev 1 8000 8001 8002 8003 8004 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 125
SortOf 91
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2407
Mong 318
Soma 306
Tasteless 296
Mind 149
ZergMaN 60
Larva 56
Bale 25
HiyA 21
Noble 9
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 1
League of Legends
JimRising 644
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K757
Other Games
summit1g6337
WinterStarcraft985
ceh9551
FrodaN478
Happy218
Sick167
NeuroSwarm84
Trikslyr21
febbydoto15
RuFF_SC213
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1967
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2152
League of Legends
• Rush1368
• Stunt672
• HappyZerGling129
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
16h 21m
The PondCast
1d 2h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 3h
OSC
1d 16h
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Serral vs SHIN
Online Event
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs Solar
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.