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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8962 Posts
June 06 2017 00:22 GMT
#155281
^This is non-news. EVERYONE knows that trump is harming his party, admin, and any hopes for getting his agenda through. Only EOs will get stuff through now, seeing as mostly everything is partisan as fuck. Can we get a conclusion on some of the scandals so that we can get a clearer picture on where we stand as far as having him stay in office? I know it's a long shot, but some kind of light at the end of the tunnel would be nice. It's June.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 06 2017 00:25 GMT
#155282
On June 06 2017 09:22 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 07:56 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:47 Plansix wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:45 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:36 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:

But at least the Saudis are condemning Qatar. /s

But will they donate it to the government as promised? Or were they only going to do that if they got caught?

I mean, with all the money Trump collects by making Mar a Lago his White House, would it really surprise?

In other news, charges are apparently being pressed against the NSA leaker, who has an interesting name.

Good, lock her ass up. Also, how old is she? I'm guessing that she is a millennial.

She's 25 and also an air force veteran.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 06 2017 00:29 GMT
#155283
On June 06 2017 09:25 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 09:22 xDaunt wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:56 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:47 Plansix wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:45 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:36 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/871854205857923073

But at least the Saudis are condemning Qatar. /s

But will they donate it to the government as promised? Or were they only going to do that if they got caught?

I mean, with all the money Trump collects by making Mar a Lago his White House, would it really surprise?

In other news, charges are apparently being pressed against the NSA leaker, who has an interesting name.
https://twitter.com/CaitJGibson/status/871840440412254212

Good, lock her ass up. Also, how old is she? I'm guessing that she is a millennial.

She's 25 and also an air force veteran.

"She should have known better" just doesn't quite say it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 06 2017 00:31 GMT
#155284
On June 06 2017 09:25 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 09:22 xDaunt wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:56 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:47 Plansix wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:45 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:36 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/871854205857923073

But at least the Saudis are condemning Qatar. /s

But will they donate it to the government as promised? Or were they only going to do that if they got caught?

I mean, with all the money Trump collects by making Mar a Lago his White House, would it really surprise?

In other news, charges are apparently being pressed against the NSA leaker, who has an interesting name.
https://twitter.com/CaitJGibson/status/871840440412254212

Good, lock her ass up. Also, how old is she? I'm guessing that she is a millennial.

She's 25 and also an air force veteran.

Shocking. Well, it looks like she will be able to add "felon" to her resume. Now Trump just needs to root out all of the other leakers and press charges against them, too.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 06 2017 00:33 GMT
#155285
A few hours ago..



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 06 2017 00:35 GMT
#155286
On June 06 2017 09:31 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 09:25 Nevuk wrote:
On June 06 2017 09:22 xDaunt wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:56 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:47 Plansix wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:45 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 06 2017 07:36 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/871854205857923073

But at least the Saudis are condemning Qatar. /s

But will they donate it to the government as promised? Or were they only going to do that if they got caught?

I mean, with all the money Trump collects by making Mar a Lago his White House, would it really surprise?

In other news, charges are apparently being pressed against the NSA leaker, who has an interesting name.
https://twitter.com/CaitJGibson/status/871840440412254212

Good, lock her ass up. Also, how old is she? I'm guessing that she is a millennial.

She's 25 and also an air force veteran.

Shocking. Well, it looks like she will be able to add "felon" to her resume. Now Trump just needs to root out all of the other leakers and press charges against them, too.

That's all well and good, but leaks are far from being his biggest or only problem.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 06 2017 00:38 GMT
#155287
On June 06 2017 09:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
A few hours ago..

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/871847713582829572

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/871855877850112000


dannnng
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 06 2017 00:44 GMT
#155288
This is my governor :
LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin called on the "power of prayer" to help combat Louisville's rising murder rate as he urged people to form prayer groups to walk high-crime neighborhoods.

His plan, outlined at a community meeting, was met with a mix of support and derision. Bevin urged volunteers to form teams of 3-10 people that pick the same block to walk at the same time of day, at least two or three times a week. He urged participants to make a yearlong commitment.

"Go around the block, pause on each corner, pray for the people there, move to the next corner," Bevin said later in describing his plan to reporters at a city park. "And over the course of the year, here's what's going to happen - they're going to get to know the people on the block."

Bevin, a socially conservative Republican, said it's a chance for "people of faith to put their faith to work." He hopes residents from the neighborhoods walk with people living elsewhere.

"Pretty unsophisticated. Pretty uncomplicated. Pretty basic," Bevin said. "But I truly believe we're going to see a difference in our city. I personally believe in the power of prayer."

Louisville Metro Police investigated a record 118 criminal homicides last year, but this year's murder rate - at 52 through May - was on pace to surpass last year's total.

Skeptics of Bevin's roving prayer group plan included Micheshia Norment, the mother of a 7-year-old boy killed by a stray bullet last month. Her son, Dequante Hobbs Jr., was eating a bedtime snack at his kitchen table when the bullet smashed through a window and struck him in the head.

Norment, who attended the community meeting, said later that Bevin's "heart is in the right place," but predicted many people would be fearful to walk neighborhoods plagued by crime.

She also doubted it will be much of a deterrent for those prone to violence.

"They can do walks all day long but it doesn't mean it's going to change anything," she said.

Bevin took to Facebook to condemn the boy's death, and he paid his respects to the family by meeting with Norment at her son's visitation, a day before his burial.

Asked Thursday if she would join a prayer group, she replied: "I'm trying to get out of the neighborhood that I'm in because I've still got another child."

What would help curb violence, she said, is to make it harder to get guns.

Earlier in the week, Bevin downplayed the availability of guns as a problem behind Louisville's murder rate. He called the homicide spree a cultural, spiritual and economic problem.

"If you honestly believe it's a gun problem, then you're missing the point," he said.

Gun-rights advocates including the National Rifle Association wield considerable political clout in Kentucky.

A ministerial group from some Louisville neighborhoods hardest hit by the violence offered its own plan to combat the crime wave. The preachers called for updating what they see as lax gun laws that make it "easier to buy a gun in West Louisville than a piece of fresh fruit."

Other parts of their plan call for protecting people who cooperate with police, updating school curriculum to highlight contributions of black culture and creating more employment and housing opportunities in minority neighborhoods.

Bevin said the rising murder rate requires law enforcement and economic solutions. He urged state and local policymakers to continue working on plans that would cost money. But he added: "There is no amount of money from any source that's going to fix this problem," he said.

Christopher 2X, an anti-violence activist, said, "How can it hurt to suggest that people want to participate in an exercise of spirit building within their block to try to encourage people toward positive thoughts."

Community activist Meshorn T. Daniels said Bevin's prayer group plan was "a good starting step" to get people involved. He agreed that relying only on money wouldn't curb violence.

"Let's fix the situation," he said. "Get people thinking differently. Change their heart, and then when you put your money in it, then the money is doing something."


www.cbsnews.com
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 06 2017 00:47 GMT
#155289
Is this the same "power of prayer" that's protected us from so many hurricanes?
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 01:18:29
June 06 2017 01:18 GMT
#155290
On June 06 2017 09:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
A few hours ago..

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/871847713582829572

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/871855877850112000

Is Claude Taylor worth taking seriously? I'm inclined to not believe a word he says until it's backed up by more reputable sources.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 01:27:01
June 06 2017 01:25 GMT
#155291
Well he was part of 3 Presidential campaigns, WH staff for Clinton.

Coal is on the defensive in the nation’s power industry. Even in coal country.

The pressure to shift more of the country’s electric supply to renewable sources is not just a rallying cry for environmentalists. Some of the power industry’s biggest customers, like General Motors and Microsoft, have made a commitment to clean energy. And to help them meet it — and keep them from taking their business elsewhere — utilities are changing their ways.

West Virginia, where coal is king, is no exception.

Appalachian Power, the leading utility there, is quickly shifting toward natural gas and renewable sources like wind and solar, even as President Trump calls for a coal renaissance. Appalachian Power still burns plenty of coal, but in recent years it has closed three coal-fired plants and converted two others to gas, reducing its dependence on coal to 61 percent last year, down from 74 percent in 2012.

Chris Beam, the company’s president, made the industry’s shifting dynamics clear in an encounter with Gov. Jim Justice, a Democrat, at his inaugural ball in January.

“‘Look, I’d like to see you guys build another coal plant,’” he recalled the governor saying. “And our answer was: We’re not going to build another coal plant.” (The governor confirmed the account, but added in an email, “I’ll continue to encourage power companies to burn more coal to put our miners back to work.”)

It’s the same story in Virginia, where Dominion, a leading utility based in Richmond — near where commercial coal mining got its start — designed a special rate to make it easier for Amazon Web Services and similar customers to buy renewable energy.

In Kentucky, a chance meeting between a state regulator and a Facebook employee ultimately led the Public Service Commission to advise utilities that they could offer customers renewable energy packages, part of an effort to attract new business and hold on to automakers like G.M. and Toyota.

And in Wyoming, the nation’s leading coal producer by far, Black Hills Energy worked with Microsoft to create a complex arrangement for the technology giant to get enough wind energy to fulfill current and future needs at Microsoft’s data center in Cheyenne.

“I’ve not spoken to a single utility that’s truly holding on to a future of more coal,” said Brian Janous, who directs energy strategy at Microsoft. “They’re looking to attract, as in the Appalachian case, new customers, and those customers aren’t attracted by coal.”

Almost half of the Fortune 500 companies have adopted at least one climate or clean-energy goal, with 23 of them pledging eventually to run their businesses on 100 percent renewable energy, including Walmart, Bank of America and Google, according to a recent report by the World Wildlife Fund and other environmentally minded organizations and investors.

Though corporations are buying renewable energy across the country, energy executives and analysts say it is notable that the trend is taking hold in states where coal production is part of the economic heart and soul.

Coal executives say that they are watching the impact of the renewable-power demands on the coal industry, but that it is a matter of rising unease.

“We’re concerned about it,” said Harry Childress, president of the Virginia Coal and Energy Alliance. “We see the pressure from these companies is pushing power producers more away from coal, which is a cheaper power.”

Five years ago, corporate renewable-energy partnerships with utilities were barely a blip on the electric industry radar. But they are rapidly increasing, according to a recent report by the World Resources Institute, which has helped to promote them.

Last year, utilities made deals with corporate customers through rate arrangements known as green tariffs for 220 megawatts of power, enough to run about 40,000 average American homes. Thus far this year, there have been 360 megawatts worth of agreements, with an additional 465 megawatts under negotiation.

“This is what these corporations want and, for the electric companies, they have to figure out how to do it,” said Lisa Wood, executive director of the Institute for Electric Innovation at the Edison Foundation, a nonprofit arm of the utility industry. “This is a tremendous driver. These are very, very large customers.”

One reason for the rapid acceleration is that utilities and regulators — often with technical assistance from environmental groups — are learning how to devise rates and transaction structures to accommodate the energy purchases.

Appalachian Power’s switch from coal was in part pushed as a result of a summit meeting that its parent company, American Electric Power, held at its headquarters last fall with corporate giants including Walmart, Facebook, Hilton, Procter & Gamble and Marathon Petroleum.

Those companies stressed that if they were going to expand their businesses in A.E.P. regions, they would need access to low-carbon energy. American Electric Power organized a second meeting in Washington in May that included Amazon, Caesars Entertainment, DuPont, Marriott International and Starbucks.

With the goal of attracting big business to coal country, Mr. Beam is now in the market to buy, lease or build a fleet of wind and solar power farms across West Virginia and Virginia. The goal is to increase Appalachian Power’s renewable-energy fleet to 34 percent of its power capacity by 2031 from 17 percent today.

An announcement for a new wind farm in southern West Virginia is expected within weeks, as discussions with big companies — which American Electric Power executives refused to identify — continue.

“Specific customers are looking specifically for renewables and to what degree you are moving toward a new clean energy economy,” said Nicholas K. Akins, A.E.P.’s chief executive. “Shareholders are more interested in sustainability going forward and improvements from a climate change perspective and carbon emissions perspective.”

Mr. Akins said American Electric Power, which serves over five million customers in 11 states, intended to respond to the demands of customers whatever policies were dictated in Washington. He added, “We are trying to make our company long-term sustainable regardless of administration.”


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 06 2017 01:34 GMT
#155292
Besides being dirty, coal just isn't that great of a power source. It should not be a surprise that they are struggling.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 01:35:53
June 06 2017 01:35 GMT
#155293
On June 06 2017 09:47 NewSunshine wrote:
Is this the same "power of prayer" that's protected us from so many hurricanes?


To be fair, the article makes it clear that it's not divine intervention that's doing anything. It's supposed to be increased community engagement from people visiting the neighborhoods to pray.

The problem is weird people walking through your neighborhood and praying on the corner may not really be the optimal way to increase community engagement.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 06 2017 01:37 GMT
#155294
On June 06 2017 10:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 09:47 NewSunshine wrote:
Is this the same "power of prayer" that's protected us from so many hurricanes?


To be fair, the article makes it clear that it's not divine intervention that's doing anything. It's supposed to be increased community engagement from people visiting the neighborhoods to pray.

The problem is weird people walking through your neighborhood and praying on the corner may not really be the optimal way to increase community engagement.

Ahh, but you see, the power of prayer is what makes it so effective. God told me so.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 06 2017 02:06 GMT
#155295
re: claude taylor:

Taylor touts himself as a “former Clinton administration staffer.” He worked in the volunteer office in 1993 at a salary of $35,000. In the volunteer office.


Source
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 06 2017 02:08 GMT
#155296
We still live in a country where proving you're a good Christian is a necessity to get elected to most high offices. I don't think too much of it, really.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
June 06 2017 02:15 GMT
#155297
What do you guys think about this ?


TOP-SECRET NSA REPORT DETAILS RUSSIAN HACKING EFFORT DAYS BEFORE 2016 ELECTION


https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/
Yes im
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 06 2017 02:19 GMT
#155298
On June 06 2017 11:15 ImFromPortugal wrote:
What do you guys think about this ?


TOP-SECRET NSA REPORT DETAILS RUSSIAN HACKING EFFORT DAYS BEFORE 2016 ELECTION


https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/

About a page late on that one. See thoughts about a page back.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
June 06 2017 02:20 GMT
#155299
On June 06 2017 11:19 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 11:15 ImFromPortugal wrote:
What do you guys think about this ?


TOP-SECRET NSA REPORT DETAILS RUSSIAN HACKING EFFORT DAYS BEFORE 2016 ELECTION


https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/

About a page late on that one. See thoughts about a page back.



sorry didn't notice, thanks!
Yes im
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 06 2017 02:29 GMT
#155300
On June 06 2017 11:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
re: claude taylor:

Show nested quote +
Taylor touts himself as a “former Clinton administration staffer.” He worked in the volunteer office in 1993 at a salary of $35,000. In the volunteer office.


Source

I'm disinclined to believe the things he says going forward, not necessarily because of what the article says but because a number of the things he reported were simply wrong. Without corroboration from a known source, he could be making it up for all I know. And Trump's presidency isn't one that requires you make stuff up. The man is plenty a buffoon on his own.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
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