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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
June 06 2017 05:09 GMT
#155321
Ouch. That is really bad on the side of the Intercept then. Better give the documents to Wikileaks next time.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 06 2017 05:11 GMT
#155322
Just give them to the Times or the Post via their secure data drops. Or mail it. They protect their sources.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 06 2017 05:19 GMT
#155323
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 05:35:18
June 06 2017 05:34 GMT
#155324
Representative Clay Higgins (R-LA) wrote the following on Facebook:

The free world… all of Christendom… is at war with Islamic horror. Not one penny of American treasure should be granted to any nation who harbors these heathen animals. Not a single radicalized Islamic suspect should be granted any measure of quarter. Their intended entry to the American homeland should be summarily denied. Every conceivable measure should be engaged to hunt them down. Hunt them, identity them, and kill them. Kill them all. For the sake of all that is good and righteous. Kill them all.
-Captain Clay Higgins


source

He hasn't apologized, he insists that the post is about terrorists, but I've never seen a clearer dogwhistle in my life.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
June 06 2017 05:59 GMT
#155325
Sounds like pretty standard conversational stuff to me. Why raise eyebrows at it?
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
June 06 2017 06:05 GMT
#155326
Even if killing terrorists is a legitimate goal, maybe it can be done without acting like some kind of medieval crusader. Everybody who talks like this is looking for some kind of holy war, not security.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23956 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 06:35:24
June 06 2017 06:34 GMT
#155327
On June 06 2017 15:05 Nyxisto wrote:
Even if killing terrorists is a legitimate goal, maybe it can be done without acting like some kind of medieval crusader. Everybody who talks like this is looking for some kind of holy war, not security.


It gets into some Hollywood level end times lore and "Millennial Kingdom" (ironically named in modern context) that does not need to be reinforced by elected officials.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
June 06 2017 07:49 GMT
#155328
On June 06 2017 14:34 ChristianS wrote:
Representative Clay Higgins (R-LA) wrote the following on Facebook:

Show nested quote +
The free world… all of Christendom… is at war with Islamic horror. Not one penny of American treasure should be granted to any nation who harbors these heathen animals. Not a single radicalized Islamic suspect should be granted any measure of quarter. Their intended entry to the American homeland should be summarily denied. Every conceivable measure should be engaged to hunt them down. Hunt them, identity them, and kill them. Kill them all. For the sake of all that is good and righteous. Kill them all.
-Captain Clay Higgins


source

He hasn't apologized, he insists that the post is about terrorists, but I've never seen a clearer dogwhistle in my life.


This really does give me creepy vibes of some sort of unique species of Grand American Christian. One of those mentality that just begs to inspire nothing but the worst in the people.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 09:52:50
June 06 2017 09:51 GMT
#155329
What interview did this take place?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 10:51:12
June 06 2017 10:49 GMT
#155330
State governments are no friend of the poor.

How much cash welfare assistance families in poverty receive largely depends on where they live, with welfare eroding in every state except Oregon over the last 20 years, according to a new study by the Urban Institute.

The study, released on Tuesday, unveils wide racial and geographic disparities in how states distribute cash welfare, known as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF).

Two decades after President Bill Clinton carried out the welfare reforms that created TANF, states with a larger share of African Americans tend to have less generous welfare benefits and more restrictive policies, the study found.

These states also have shorter periods of eligibility for assistance, stricter requirements to maintain benefits, and more severe sanctions for people who don’t abide by state welfare rules.

The findings should serve as a cautionary flag as Congressional Republicans propose overhauling other federal poverty programs, said Heather Hahn, a senior fellow at the Urban Institute and one of the study’s authors. She warns that such changes are likely to exacerbate existing racial disparities.

“I would predict, based on TANF’s history, that if we were to block grant other programs, we would see similar results, with racial differences and fewer families receiving assistance,” Hahn said in an interview with The Washington Post.

TANF is funded by the federal government in the form of state “block grants,” enabling states to establish their own eligibility rules and giving them flexibility to determine how the federal money is used.

President Trump, in his budget released last month, and Republicans in Congress want to turn other federal assistance to the poor into state block grants, ending the federal guarantee of assistance.

The proposals echo the Clinton-era 1996 welfare reforms which required those receiving cash welfare to work or look for work, and imposed the first federal government caps on how long families could receive the benefit.

It capped benefits at 60 months in one's adult lifetime, but some states instituted shorter limits while other states continue to provide cash assistance for children even after adults household members are cut off.

The Urban Institute researchers argue that many poor families are worse off under this system than they were 20 years ago. The amount states receive in TANF block grants has not changed during that time -- not even to account for inflation.

Today, for every 100 poor families in America, just 24 families receive cash assistance, compared to 64 in 1996. And only a quarter of TANF money now goes towards cash payments, down from 71 percent in 1997. Instead, states increased their TANF spending on promoting work activities, providing child care and preschool education, and offering other services not limited to low-income families.


Source
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 06 2017 11:28 GMT
#155331
On June 06 2017 18:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What interview did this take place?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/871872733268889600

I think with Chris Matthews
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
June 06 2017 11:44 GMT
#155332
On June 06 2017 20:28 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 18:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What interview did this take place?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/871872733268889600

I think with Chris Matthews


Yes, probably msnbc harball

The accomplish nothing bit is at the end but they also talk about the meetings before.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
June 06 2017 12:31 GMT
#155333
On June 06 2017 14:59 a_flayer wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard conversational stuff to me. Why raise eyebrows at it?

Notice the explicit framing of Christendom vs. Islam, and that terrorism isn't actually mentioned at any point. If someone believed that all Muslims should be killed, they could easily look at a post like this and think this guy agrees. Also notice that he says we should do all this to radicalized Muslim suspects, meaning we don't need to know that someone's a terrorist to hunt them down and kill them in the name of Christendom. We just need to suspect them.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
June 06 2017 12:43 GMT
#155334
On June 06 2017 21:31 ChristianS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 14:59 a_flayer wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard conversational stuff to me. Why raise eyebrows at it?

Notice the explicit framing of Christendom vs. Islam, and that terrorism isn't actually mentioned at any point. If someone believed that all Muslims should be killed, they could easily look at a post like this and think this guy agrees. Also notice that he says we should do all this to radicalized Muslim suspects, meaning we don't need to know that someone's a terrorist to hunt them down and kill them in the name of Christendom. We just need to suspect them.

Agreed I dont understand how this is not considered as some form of hate speech.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 06 2017 12:54 GMT
#155335
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9641 Posts
June 06 2017 12:55 GMT
#155336
the only people out there that hope Trump stops tweeting is his own party. how disconnected.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 06 2017 13:00 GMT
#155337
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22369 Posts
June 06 2017 13:00 GMT
#155338
On June 06 2017 21:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/872059997429022722

yeah... The MSM loves his twitter because it feeds stories.
His opponents love his twitter since he keeps incriminating himself through it

The main people who want him off twitter are his own staff because he hurts his own cause constantly.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 06 2017 13:04 GMT
#155339
On June 06 2017 21:43 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 21:31 ChristianS wrote:
On June 06 2017 14:59 a_flayer wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard conversational stuff to me. Why raise eyebrows at it?

Notice the explicit framing of Christendom vs. Islam, and that terrorism isn't actually mentioned at any point. If someone believed that all Muslims should be killed, they could easily look at a post like this and think this guy agrees. Also notice that he says we should do all this to radicalized Muslim suspects, meaning we don't need to know that someone's a terrorist to hunt them down and kill them in the name of Christendom. We just need to suspect them.

Agreed I dont understand how this is not considered as some form of hate speech.

This is America, it is fine as long as you vaguely allude that the Muslim is a terrorist. Sure, terrorist don’t wear signs or look any different that non-terrorist. But we don’t employ that level of critical thinking about speech in the US.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 13:12:08
June 06 2017 13:09 GMT
#155340
On June 06 2017 21:31 ChristianS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 14:59 a_flayer wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard conversational stuff to me. Why raise eyebrows at it?

Notice the explicit framing of Christendom vs. Islam, and that terrorism isn't actually mentioned at any point. If someone believed that all Muslims should be killed, they could easily look at a post like this and think this guy agrees. Also notice that he says we should do all this to radicalized Muslim suspects, meaning we don't need to know that someone's a terrorist to hunt them down and kill them in the name of Christendom. We just need to suspect them.


Bonus points for calling the "heathen animals." Especially considering being a heathen has nothing to do with being an Islamic terrorist (especially since being a Muslim generally disqualifies you from being a heathen, at least under most dictionary definitions).

You can maybe argue that he's arguing that specific branch of Islam is divergent enough from organized religion that they're heathens, but that's not exactly a talking point the right embraces.
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