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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3257 Posts
June 06 2017 13:12 GMT
#155341
On June 06 2017 21:43 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 21:31 ChristianS wrote:
On June 06 2017 14:59 a_flayer wrote:
Sounds like pretty standard conversational stuff to me. Why raise eyebrows at it?

Notice the explicit framing of Christendom vs. Islam, and that terrorism isn't actually mentioned at any point. If someone believed that all Muslims should be killed, they could easily look at a post like this and think this guy agrees. Also notice that he says we should do all this to radicalized Muslim suspects, meaning we don't need to know that someone's a terrorist to hunt them down and kill them in the name of Christendom. We just need to suspect them.

Agreed I dont understand how this is not considered as some form of hate speech.

All of this is not to mention the phrase "heathen animals," which both dehumanizes and implies their heathenness is what warrants this hunting and killing.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4358 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 13:20:40
June 06 2017 13:18 GMT
#155342
On June 06 2017 22:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

Good thing Saudi Arabia isn't radical eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 06 2017 13:52 GMT
#155343
On June 06 2017 22:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/872062159789985792

That's going to be great for starting a diplomatic row with an old ally.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
silverstoneft02wc
Profile Joined June 2017
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 14:07:55
June 06 2017 14:02 GMT
#155344
Top Law Firms apparently don't want to represent Trump. Cited reasons include: Trump is a deadbeat who doesn't pay, he would kill recruitment because he's so toxic and he clearly doesn't listen to advice so its a waste of time for us to get creamed.

I don't blame them. Just this week, you've had him take a huge dump on the London mayor, probably kill his own travel ban against the advice/efforts of his PR staff, and basically destroy relationships with Qutar which the US has more than a few military bases located in.

On June 06 2017 18:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What interview did this take place?



Carter Page is the dumbest idiot in the world. He's gotta have the worst lawyers because he can't stop himself from going on TV. Which is the worst thing he can do because he's a terrible liar who either looks super suspicious or self incriminates himself.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 14:16:53
June 06 2017 14:10 GMT
#155345
No doubt the US military is shitting bricks about Trumps Qatar tweets. No doubt there is already internal talk about kicking our massive base there out or limiting it in some way.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 06 2017 14:14 GMT
#155346
On June 06 2017 23:10 On_Slaught wrote:
No doubt the US military is shitting bricks about Trumps Qatar tweets. No doubt there is already internal talk about kicking our massive base there out or limiting it in some way.

Mattis is going to be working overtime, that's for sure.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 06 2017 14:17 GMT
#155347
On June 06 2017 23:02 silverstoneft02wc wrote:
Top Law Firms apparently don't want to represent Trump. Cited reasons include: Trump is a deadbeat who doesn't pay, he would kill recruitment because he's so toxic and he clearly doesn't listen to advice so its a waste of time for us to get creamed.

I don't blame them. Just this week, you've had him take a huge dump on the London mayor, probably kill his own travel ban against the advice/efforts of his PR staff, and basically destroy relationships with Qutar which the US has more than a few military bases located in.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 18:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What interview did this take place?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/871872733268889600


Carter Page is the dumbest idiot in the world. He's gotta have the worst lawyers because he can't stop himself from going on TV. Which is the worst thing he can do because he's a terrible liar who either looks super suspicious or self incriminates himself.


well michael cohen, trump's personal lawyer graduated from cooley.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 14:19:18
June 06 2017 14:17 GMT
#155348
Now that I think about it, I'd wager he doesn't even know we have a base there.

Yay for Trump sparked global Instability!

Edit: Holy shit Cohen graduated from the worst law school in the country? Expected nothing less from this administration.
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
June 06 2017 14:20 GMT
#155349
On June 06 2017 22:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/872062159789985792

I can only assume that SA took that as "no radical Shi'a ideology". They won't consider themselves the radical ones. No one ever does, do they?
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1947 Posts
June 06 2017 14:21 GMT
#155350
"I didn't want that base anyway." Trump 2017

So, can the state representative Captain Higgins feel real consequences for his "heathen animal" comment or does he simply get a second term for showing all the SJWs how to not be politically correct?
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 06 2017 14:22 GMT
#155351
On June 06 2017 23:20 a_flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 22:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/872062159789985792

I can only assume that SA took that as "no radical Shi'a ideology". They won't consider themselves the radical ones. No one ever does, do they?

almost noone at least. I'm sure technically there's a few small people who self-identify as radicals; there usually are.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 06 2017 14:34 GMT
#155352
On June 06 2017 23:02 silverstoneft02wc wrote:
Top Law Firms apparently don't want to represent Trump. Cited reasons include: Trump is a deadbeat who doesn't pay, he would kill recruitment because he's so toxic and he clearly doesn't listen to advice so its a waste of time for us to get creamed.

I don't blame them. Just this week, you've had him take a huge dump on the London mayor, probably kill his own travel ban against the advice/efforts of his PR staff, and basically destroy relationships with Qutar which the US has more than a few military bases located in.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 18:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What interview did this take place?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/871872733268889600


Carter Page is the dumbest idiot in the world. He's gotta have the worst lawyers because he can't stop himself from going on TV. Which is the worst thing he can do because he's a terrible liar who either looks super suspicious or self incriminates himself.

I've said it more than once: working for Trump is a career hazard. Even I've done some slight shifts in my career path to distance myself from the direct chain of command of Trump's administration. Glad I did because being part of this shithole means you get burned when things go south.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 06 2017 14:34 GMT
#155353
On June 06 2017 23:17 On_Slaught wrote:
Now that I think about it, I'd wager he doesn't even know we have a base there.

Yay for Trump sparked global Instability!

Edit: Holy shit Cohen graduated from the worst law school in the country? Expected nothing less from this administration.


i mean, they're not even top ranked in the rankings that they themselves made up.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 06 2017 14:44 GMT
#155354
On June 06 2017 23:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 23:17 On_Slaught wrote:
Now that I think about it, I'd wager he doesn't even know we have a base there.

Yay for Trump sparked global Instability!

Edit: Holy shit Cohen graduated from the worst law school in the country? Expected nothing less from this administration.


i mean, they're not even top ranked in the rankings that they themselves made up.


They're just modest about their ranking.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 14:48:41
June 06 2017 14:48 GMT
#155355
Thought this was a good one...

Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 06 2017 14:48 GMT
#155356
On June 06 2017 23:21 Broetchenholer wrote:
"I didn't want that base anyway." Trump 2017

So, can the state representative Captain Higgins feel real consequences for his "heathen animal" comment or does he simply get a second term for showing all the SJWs how to not be politically correct?

I knew he was going to be terrible foreign policy, but this has exceeded my wildest expectations. This is full blown destroying US relationships with our allies and getting nothing from it. I wasn’t concerned about that base closing before, now I am.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 14:50:45
June 06 2017 14:49 GMT
#155357
He has shit all over relations with Mexico, Qatar, NATO, the EU, everyone who likes planet earth, and the UK, and we aren't even through 200 days!
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 06 2017 14:51 GMT
#155358
On June 06 2017 23:02 silverstoneft02wc wrote:
Top Law Firms apparently don't want to represent Trump. Cited reasons include: Trump is a deadbeat who doesn't pay, he would kill recruitment because he's so toxic and he clearly doesn't listen to advice so its a waste of time for us to get creamed.

I don't blame them. Just this week, you've had him take a huge dump on the London mayor, probably kill his own travel ban against the advice/efforts of his PR staff, and basically destroy relationships with Qutar which the US has more than a few military bases located in.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 18:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What interview did this take place?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/871872733268889600


Carter Page is the dumbest idiot in the world. He's gotta have the worst lawyers because he can't stop himself from going on TV. Which is the worst thing he can do because he's a terrible liar who either looks super suspicious or self incriminates himself.


Page's stupidity actually does make you wonder if he was capable of was capable of pulling off any nefarious plot.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 14:53:36
June 06 2017 14:51 GMT
#155359
On June 06 2017 23:21 Broetchenholer wrote:
"I didn't want that base anyway." Trump 2017

So, can the state representative Captain Higgins feel real consequences for his "heathen animal" comment or does he simply get a second term for showing all the SJWs how to not be politically correct?


It'll play well with his base. Just like it plays well in ISIS if you swap "Muslim" and "Christian" in the comment.

On June 06 2017 23:51 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 23:02 silverstoneft02wc wrote:
Top Law Firms apparently don't want to represent Trump. Cited reasons include: Trump is a deadbeat who doesn't pay, he would kill recruitment because he's so toxic and he clearly doesn't listen to advice so its a waste of time for us to get creamed.

I don't blame them. Just this week, you've had him take a huge dump on the London mayor, probably kill his own travel ban against the advice/efforts of his PR staff, and basically destroy relationships with Qutar which the US has more than a few military bases located in.

On June 06 2017 18:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What interview did this take place?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/871872733268889600


Carter Page is the dumbest idiot in the world. He's gotta have the worst lawyers because he can't stop himself from going on TV. Which is the worst thing he can do because he's a terrible liar who either looks super suspicious or self incriminates himself.


Page's stupidity actually does make you wonder if he was capable of was capable of pulling off any nefarious plot.


"Pulling off" is a stretch here. I'm not sure a reasonable timeline that would expose/end all this stuff faster than we're getting without having a ton more leakers arrested.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 06 2017 14:55 GMT
#155360
Trump, breaking down divisions between the parties through sheer force of fear and instability.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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