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Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 14:11:40
June 05 2017 14:10 GMT
#155161
While they might have bad taste in humor, private messaging between friends is considered public space now?

Not sure about you, but I have had group conversations both irl and in a virtual group chat that I would appreciate my boss to not know about, and I believe most of us have had it as well.

Edit: spellign
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 05 2017 14:12 GMT
#155162
On June 05 2017 20:55 RealityIsKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 18:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 05 2017 15:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So apparently Robert Mueller has brought in Watergate veteran James Quarles as part of the investigation.


Well the guy is candid enough to publicly admit he only ever pronounced his drain the swamp slogan because the crowd liked it. And his audience is stupid enough not to see how and why that would be offensive to them.



Trump apparently thinks he is still at the apprentice, and clearly his supporters don't notice or don't see the problem.


His supporters just enjoy seeing him humiliate/trigger his oppositions.


A candid admission about the reason Trump has support.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42568 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 14:16:26
June 05 2017 14:15 GMT
#155163
On June 05 2017 23:10 Neneu wrote:
While they might have bad taste in humor, private messaging between friends is considered public space now?

Not sure about you, but I have had group conversations both irl and in a virtual group chat that I would appreciate my boss to not know about, and I believe most of us have had it as well.

Edit: spellign

I'd recommend not making a facebook page about it and naming that facebook page after your employer then.

I can absolutely see why Harvard didn't want it's brand associated with a facebook page declaring itself as being for Harvard admitted people and full of offensive memes.

In this instance they did it in a particularly stupid and public way.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 05 2017 14:20 GMT
#155164
Yeah, while I normally don't like this "social media justice" thing this case was totally justified. When will people learn that if you want to be a psychotic asshole on the internet, you should do so anonymously?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
June 05 2017 14:24 GMT
#155165
On June 05 2017 23:15 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 23:10 Neneu wrote:
While they might have bad taste in humor, private messaging between friends is considered public space now?

Not sure about you, but I have had group conversations both irl and in a virtual group chat that I would appreciate my boss to not know about, and I believe most of us have had it as well.

Edit: spellign

I'd recommend not making a facebook page about it and naming that facebook page after your employer then.

I can absolutely see why Harvard didn't want it's brand associated with a facebook page declaring itself as being for Harvard admitted people and full of offensive memes.

In this instance they did it in a particularly stupid and public way.


According to the article linked it was a messaging group, not a page. Therefor private. If it was a page, it would be completely understandable. However it is in my opinion not, when it is some people having a private chat through their messaging system.

After discovering the messaging group ― which had split off from what one student called a “lighthearted” Facebook chat for admitted students
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
June 05 2017 15:01 GMT
#155166
Weird incident. If it really was a messaging group, this is a step too far. Unless it was some kinda 200+ person messaging group somehow. Or if it was named Harvard something. Harvard has a lot of image value to maintain and having some rich shits mucking it up with foul stuff isn't going to be allowed.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
June 05 2017 15:06 GMT
#155167
On June 05 2017 21:53 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
He's the one that signed the watered down EO...



Oh man. And yesterday I wondered if anyone had told Trump it defanged the refugee parts. I guess nobody did!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7884 Posts
June 05 2017 15:08 GMT
#155168
On June 05 2017 20:55 RealityIsKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 18:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 05 2017 15:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So apparently Robert Mueller has brought in Watergate veteran James Quarles as part of the investigation.

https://twitter.com/AriMelber/status/871527653144240128

Well the guy is candid enough to publicly admit he only ever pronounced his drain the swamp slogan because the crowd liked it. And his audience is stupid enough not to see how and why that would be offensive to them.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NT5XH9RdGQA

Trump apparently thinks he is still at the apprentice, and clearly his supporters don't notice or don't see the problem.


His supporters just enjoy seeing him humiliate/trigger his oppositions.

That or his supporters are not reflected enough to think "wait a sec, he is saying to our face he doesn't give a fuck or even believe what he's saying, he's just saying what we applaude to to get elected".

But ye, maybe they are super clever and he was just sayin that to infuriate dems and the whole room of course got it. Good one.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 05 2017 15:10 GMT
#155169
On June 06 2017 00:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Weird incident. If it really was a messaging group, this is a step too far. Unless it was some kinda 200+ person messaging group somehow. Or if it was named Harvard something. Harvard has a lot of image value to maintain and having some rich shits mucking it up with foul stuff isn't going to be allowed.


In the article:

Two incoming students told the Crimson the group was at one point called “Harvard memes for horny bourgeois teens.”
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 15:15:10
June 05 2017 15:13 GMT
#155170
On June 06 2017 00:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 20:55 RealityIsKing wrote:
On June 05 2017 18:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 05 2017 15:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So apparently Robert Mueller has brought in Watergate veteran James Quarles as part of the investigation.

https://twitter.com/AriMelber/status/871527653144240128

Well the guy is candid enough to publicly admit he only ever pronounced his drain the swamp slogan because the crowd liked it. And his audience is stupid enough not to see how and why that would be offensive to them.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NT5XH9RdGQA

Trump apparently thinks he is still at the apprentice, and clearly his supporters don't notice or don't see the problem.


His supporters just enjoy seeing him humiliate/trigger his oppositions.

That or his supporters are not reflected enough to think "wait a sec, he is saying to our face he doesn't give a fuck or even believe what he's saying, he's just saying what we applaude to to get elected".

But ye, maybe they are super clever and he was just sayin that to infuriate dems and the whole room of course got it. Good one.

Never attribute to malice that which is explained sufficiently by stupidity. That would assume a high level of competence on the part of a large number of people, and when it comes to Trump supporters... forget it. I'm actually shocked that people were laughing as he was giving his spiel though. That was a sad moment for any and everyone who bought into his BS.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
June 05 2017 15:14 GMT
#155171
On June 06 2017 00:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 00:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Weird incident. If it really was a messaging group, this is a step too far. Unless it was some kinda 200+ person messaging group somehow. Or if it was named Harvard something. Harvard has a lot of image value to maintain and having some rich shits mucking it up with foul stuff isn't going to be allowed.


In the article:

Show nested quote +
Two incoming students told the Crimson the group was at one point called “Harvard memes for horny bourgeois teens.”


Jesus. Begs an interesting question. Let's say someone posts an album of pictures on Facebook titled "my academic career at harvard", and it had a ton of questionable behavior and opinions and dirty memes etc. I wonder how that would go. When is it just doing your stuff, which happens to be at Harvard, and when is it actually Harvard's business?
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9617 Posts
June 05 2017 15:18 GMT
#155172
On June 06 2017 00:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 00:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Weird incident. If it really was a messaging group, this is a step too far. Unless it was some kinda 200+ person messaging group somehow. Or if it was named Harvard something. Harvard has a lot of image value to maintain and having some rich shits mucking it up with foul stuff isn't going to be allowed.


In the article:

Show nested quote +
Two incoming students told the Crimson the group was at one point called “Harvard memes for horny bourgeois teens.”

i mean the kid they interviewed only commented under the condition of anonymity. if (s)he can't stand by the things they said i can't feel bad that they had their admission revoked. play stupid games win stupid prizes.

i'm not one for internet anonymity to begin with, though. and i'm actually clear on the opposite spectrum from Mohdoo. if i were a huge messaging group i'd lean more towards 'well stupid as as stupid does' but if it's a personal message that got leaked to the admins between friends i'd treat it even more seriously.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
June 05 2017 15:21 GMT
#155173
On June 06 2017 00:18 brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 00:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 06 2017 00:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Weird incident. If it really was a messaging group, this is a step too far. Unless it was some kinda 200+ person messaging group somehow. Or if it was named Harvard something. Harvard has a lot of image value to maintain and having some rich shits mucking it up with foul stuff isn't going to be allowed.


In the article:

Two incoming students told the Crimson the group was at one point called “Harvard memes for horny bourgeois teens.”

i mean the kid they interviewed only commented under the condition of anonymity. if (s)he can't stand by the things they said i can't feel bad that they had their admission revoked. play stupid games win stupid prizes.

i'm not one for internet anonymity to begin with, though. and i'm actually clear on the opposite spectrum from Mohdoo. if i were a huge messaging group i'd lean more towards 'well stupid as as stupid does' but if it's a personal message that got leaked to the admins between friends i'd treat it even more seriously.

Wait, what? You're saying a personal message between 2 people, sharing questionable content or making questionable jokes, should be punished?
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7884 Posts
June 05 2017 15:24 GMT
#155174
On June 06 2017 00:13 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 00:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 05 2017 20:55 RealityIsKing wrote:
On June 05 2017 18:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 05 2017 15:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So apparently Robert Mueller has brought in Watergate veteran James Quarles as part of the investigation.

https://twitter.com/AriMelber/status/871527653144240128

Well the guy is candid enough to publicly admit he only ever pronounced his drain the swamp slogan because the crowd liked it. And his audience is stupid enough not to see how and why that would be offensive to them.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NT5XH9RdGQA

Trump apparently thinks he is still at the apprentice, and clearly his supporters don't notice or don't see the problem.


His supporters just enjoy seeing him humiliate/trigger his oppositions.

That or his supporters are not reflected enough to think "wait a sec, he is saying to our face he doesn't give a fuck or even believe what he's saying, he's just saying what we applaude to to get elected".

But ye, maybe they are super clever and he was just sayin that to infuriate dems and the whole room of course got it. Good one.

Never attribute to malice that which is explained sufficiently by stupidity. That would assume a high level of competence on the part of a large number of people, and when it comes to Trump supporters... forget it. I'm actually shocked that people were laughing as he was giving his spiel though. That was a sad moment for any and everyone who bought into his BS.

To believe that Trump doesn't just say how it went because he would realize how fucking offensive it is to the people who sang those slogans also means RIK hasn't really followed the donald recently. The guy is so candid it borders the grotesque.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 05 2017 15:30 GMT
#155175
On June 06 2017 00:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 00:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Weird incident. If it really was a messaging group, this is a step too far. Unless it was some kinda 200+ person messaging group somehow. Or if it was named Harvard something. Harvard has a lot of image value to maintain and having some rich shits mucking it up with foul stuff isn't going to be allowed.


In the article:

Show nested quote +
Two incoming students told the Crimson the group was at one point called “Harvard memes for horny bourgeois teens.”

(I don't use facebook) Is a message group viewable by anyone or just the name, or what?

I'd like to see the exact jokes they got banned for, just because I'm a little bit distrustful of how media would choose to relate some of the borderline content that exists out there. Anyway, sad thing to have ruin what was no doubt a lot of hard work, but hard to feel a ton of sympathy if the description is accurate :/
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 15:40:24
June 05 2017 15:40 GMT
#155176
On June 06 2017 00:18 brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 00:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 06 2017 00:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Weird incident. If it really was a messaging group, this is a step too far. Unless it was some kinda 200+ person messaging group somehow. Or if it was named Harvard something. Harvard has a lot of image value to maintain and having some rich shits mucking it up with foul stuff isn't going to be allowed.


In the article:

Two incoming students told the Crimson the group was at one point called “Harvard memes for horny bourgeois teens.”

i mean the kid they interviewed only commented under the condition of anonymity. if (s)he can't stand by the things they said i can't feel bad that they had their admission revoked. play stupid games win stupid prizes.


More or less my feelings on it. I don't even think these kids had any necessary poor intent - just off color joking. But this is clearly a hard lesson in PR and how people should be conscious of context when they may be representing something other than themselves.

On June 06 2017 00:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 00:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 06 2017 00:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Weird incident. If it really was a messaging group, this is a step too far. Unless it was some kinda 200+ person messaging group somehow. Or if it was named Harvard something. Harvard has a lot of image value to maintain and having some rich shits mucking it up with foul stuff isn't going to be allowed.


In the article:

Two incoming students told the Crimson the group was at one point called “Harvard memes for horny bourgeois teens.”

(I don't use facebook) Is a message group viewable by anyone or just the name, or what?

I'd like to see the exact jokes they got banned for, just because I'm a little bit distrustful of how media would choose to relate some of the borderline content that exists out there. Anyway, sad thing to have ruin what was no doubt a lot of hard work, but hard to feel a ton of sympathy if the description is accurate :/


I don't really use FB either, but from when I did - you can set group messages to have different privacy settings I believe. From the article, it sounds like this group was a spin off chat from a larger, accepted students group. If it was a spin off chat of people who haven't met each other before, it'd be easy for something like this to reach the wrong ears.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 05 2017 15:45 GMT
#155177
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 05 2017 15:49 GMT
#155178
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42568 Posts
June 05 2017 15:51 GMT
#155179

It's baffling to me that Trump was tweeting about the London attacks, in which three attackers managed to kill seven people using a van and knives, to bitch about how gun control doesn't help. I can't decide whether I'm more offended by the tactlessness of it or the stupidity. Gun control fucking worked in this instance. They didn't have guns, the police did, just minutes after they started their attack the police showed up and gunned them down.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 15:54:51
June 05 2017 15:53 GMT
#155180
Wow he is doubling down on an inaccurate, unjustified, and untimely tweet? 7d chess or example #864568 that he is mentally handicapped? You decide.

At this point they shouldn't even allow him to visit London. He shouldn't want to go either. If he does he will be booed mercilessly.
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